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some big brother facts
    #7711100 - 12/03/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if your using a rental car that has gps dont go out of state if the policy says u can,t, they will track u and charge u for the extra miles

if u have a car with an air bag, there is a black box which records data about the accidents u get into and that info. can be used against u in a court of law

when u burn cd,s or dvd,s the serial # of your computer gets etched on the discs, pay cash for your computers and dont register them for warranty,s

on your color printer your serial # gets put on everything u print via code

for digital cameras the serial # is also put into code on the photo

if u have a gps enabled phone your work can track your movement via software

google keeps a record of every search ever, google searches have been used to prosecute people, say u searched for gunshot wound trauma, life insurance, this has been used to convict people for murder, google keeps your emails for 2 months after u delete them

aol has a special group that works just to help law enforcement to prosecute it,s subscribers for crimes

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Re: some big brother facts [Re: 5150]
    #7711116 - 12/03/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting. I didn't know about some of these.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: 5150]
    #7711126 - 12/03/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

>>>"on your color printer your serial # gets put on everything u print via code

for digital cameras the serial # is also put into code on the photo"


Where? I've printed out many many things, and i don't think my printers resolution is nearly good enough to print anything small enough that i havent seen into code. And where would they put it on a photo? what color do they use for the code? what if the picture is pitch black over where the code is, and the code is written in black?

mmmmmmm? :strokebeard:


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7711129 - 12/03/07 02:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've never noticed a code anywhere, either


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Robo]
    #7711189 - 12/03/07 02:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

http://googlonymous.nabolister.com/

it,s all on this 2 hour long show that was on tv , below the search engine on the page above, i watched it and took notes


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: 5150]
    #7711602 - 12/03/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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5150 said:
if your using a rental car that has gps dont go out of state if the policy says u can,t, they will track u and charge u for the extra miles

have a nice day




Not anymore - in Connecticut and California, at least.  From the American Bar Association web page:

"The California attorney general also recently took administrative action against a leasing company that used GPS information to surcharge its customers. (See a California attorney general press release of Nov. 9, 2004, regarding settlement in the matter of State of California v. Acceleron Corp. et al., copies available at http://www.ag.ca.gov/ newsalerts/2004/04- 129.htm and http://www.ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/2004/04- 129_settle.pdf.)

The California rental company's contract disclosed the fact that a higher mileage charge would apply if the car were driven out of state, but apparently did not disclose that GPS information would be used to determine whether the car had been driven out of state. In addition, the car rental company apparently advertised unlimited mileage (no per-mile charges), without clearly disclosing the geographic limitations associated with the unlimited mileage feature.

Due in part to the practices of these two leasing companies, the California and Connecticut legislatures enacted laws restricting the ability of leasing companies to use GPS information. In California, car rental companies may no longer use GPS information to impose surcharges, fines or penalties relating to the renter's use of a leased vehicle. (See California Civil Code Section 1936(o).) GPS information may be used by a California rental company to help locate a stolen, abandoned or missing vehicle, provided that this is clearly and conspicuously disclosed in advance to the customer."

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Re: some big brother facts [Re: scout24]
    #7711618 - 12/03/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> on your color printer your serial # gets put on everything u print via code

This page tells you how to decode the yellow dot code.

> for digital cameras the serial # is also put into code on the photo

I would like to find out how that works. I wonder how much the image needs to be resized and edited before the number is not recoverable.

The reason they do all these crazy tracking things is that people really do have a lot of freedom, much more than they often realize and that pisses off parts of the US government to no end.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711624 - 12/03/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Prolly just save it as a BMP then back to JPG should do it.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: BrAiN]
    #7711663 - 12/03/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

More likely just erase the EXIF data.

I'd like to see sources on some of these claims. Namely how a cd/dvd burner can pull your computer's serial and etch it on a disk. Or how your work can track your phone even if you set the GPS to E911 only...

Sounds a little too: :tinfoil:


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: BrAiN]
    #7711666 - 12/03/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Prolly just save it as a BMP then back to JPG should do it.

Unless it is encoded into the image like the yellow dots.

It could be encoded in the lowest order bit of each pixel so it comes out as an imperceptible difference in the color of certain pixels. If that is how they hide the serial number, stegdetect can find it using a least significant bit plane smoothness attack.

Actually, they probably use something much more simple.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711670 - 12/03/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> More likely just erase the EXIF data.

I have never been able to find something that looked like a unique serial number in the EXIF data. Am I not looking hard enough?


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711684 - 12/03/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'd never actually looked, was just a guess.

Your stenography theory is much more likely, and wouldn't surprise me a bit.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711686 - 12/03/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So hypothetically, if I had a stolen digital camera, it can still be traced back to the original people?


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711687 - 12/03/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> Namely how a cd/dvd burner can pull your computer's serial and etch it on a disk.

That would be news to me, I call bullshit on this one.

If you burn two identical CD's on different computers and do a bit by bit comparison, the CD's will be the same.

> Or how your work can track your phone even if you set the GPS to E911 only...

The cell phone company knows where the phone is all the time, they have a map of everywhere the phone has been. They don't usually share this data with law enforcement without a subpoena.

I don't think it has anything to do with your work unless they buy you a phone with special "features".

The rest of the stuff is pretty much true.


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Re: some big brother facts [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7711713 - 12/03/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I may have spoke too soon:

Source: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1011&message=17266987
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Inclusion of serial number is a standard part of the EXIF data package and it's one of the ways the computer can identify one camera from another so if you own multiple units of the same model camera your computer can identify them separately. Obviously that's not something that most users would have but it does happen a lot in the business world - large insurance companies and real estate firms are a couple of examples.






And I was pretty sure that when you set the phone to E911 only, that the GPS was only active when dialing emergency services. Can the cell phone carrier turn it on at will, or are they triangulating your location from cell towers?


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