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goldieman
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can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc?
#7708497 - 12/02/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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forgot to add before i pressure cooked. would it be unsafe to toss a bit in before i do my g2g? or is that too risky?
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pazzy
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: goldieman]
#7708537 - 12/02/07 09:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would be unsafe.
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Cryogenicz
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: pazzy]
#7708710 - 12/02/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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No you cant!
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7708857 - 12/02/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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too risky, well actually not even a remote possibility. But wbs does not need gypsum, it is not near as acidic as rye berries which needs gypsum. Anyways, most birdseed companies add oyster shell to their seed so that the birds do not get heart burn. Sctually i think it makes their beaks stronger
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: tahoe]
#7708879 - 12/02/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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there would of been no point in PCing if you open the lid.
light a fire under your ass when you do that g2g...get it done fast or use a glovebox
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goldieman
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: hecknotechno]
#7719522 - 12/05/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i didn't use gypsum and the grains seperated just fine. i guess as long as you get the moisture right it's not necessary. and just to reiterate past warnings; for those of you trying out wbs or grain teks, the way you know its safe to load jars prior to pc'ing is if they're almost dry to the touch before loading. i was having problems with full jar colonization due to too wet grain. the way to check the grain is like so. if you rub your hand through it you should get very little grain that sticks to your hand. when i say little i mean very little. like a few. if you take a wooden spoon full and dump it, without tamping the spoon, none to a few grains should stick. line a tray with paper towels, dump in a thin layer of grain, (bout enough to feel two quart jars). take a papertowel and place atop grain and roll around the grain with your hand. tst the grain by picking up and dumping. very little should stick to your hand. your hand should feel humid, not wet. your hand shouldn't glsten at all with moisture. it's painstaking but worth it if you don't want to lose jars you spent so much time on preparing.
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: goldieman]
#7719698 - 12/05/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
goldieman said: and just to reiterate past warnings; for those of you trying out wbs or grain teks, the way you know its safe to load jars prior to pc'ing is if they're almost dry to the touch before loading. i was having problems with full jar colonization due to too wet grain. the way to check the grain is like so. if you rub your hand through it you should get very little grain that sticks to your hand. when i say little i mean very little. like a few. if you take a wooden spoon full and dump it, without tamping the spoon, none to a few grains should stick. line a tray with paper towels, dump in a thin layer of grain, (bout enough to feel two quart jars). take a papertowel and place atop grain and roll around the grain with your hand. tst the grain by picking up and dumping. very little should stick to your hand. your hand should feel humid, not wet. your hand shouldn't glsten at all with moisture. it's painstaking but worth it if you don't want to lose jars you spent so much time on preparing.
I wasn't aware of this.
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goldieman
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: Fraggin]
#7719825 - 12/05/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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are you being cynical?
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Fraggin
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: goldieman]
#7723723 - 12/06/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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goldieman said: are you being cynical?
My method is far different, maybe wrong even. I put wbs in a bucket and fill it with water and leave it outside overnight and then the next night, I just pout it all out on the patio and let it set for a few hours (on the concrete) and then load up some jars and pc for a while. It takes my pc about an hour to get up to 15 psi, so once it's there I only let it go for another hour, then turn it off.... Has always worked for me.
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Re: can i add gypsum to wbs after i pc? [Re: Fraggin]
#7723746 - 12/06/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do organic rye berries all the time with no gypsum at all. So WBS definatly doesn't need any. If for some reason you are dead set on gypsum , you MUST remix, then re PC. This would work, but throwing un-PCed gypsum into your jars is pointless. You may as well throw them away now, and save yourself that nasty smell in your incubator. There is no doubt hundreds of thousands of contam spores sitting in that box of gypsum if it was ever outside before being boxed and shipped. You are just spoon feeding them to your WBS. Don't do it man.
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