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Silversoul
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Herbal concentration aides?
#7707378 - 12/02/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Early in life I was diagnosed with ADHD. I took Ritalin for a while, and later dexedrine. I stopped taking my meds after college, and got along just fine without them for a while. But lately I've been struggling to find the mental focus needed to do certain tasks. I've thought about going to a doctor and getting some more dexedrine, but I don't have health insurance right now, and I'd rather not be hopped up on speed all the time. What herbal or OTC supplements are best for concentration? Ginko? Ginseng? What do you recommend?
PS: Please don't make this a thread about the existence of ADD. I don't care if it's a real disorder or not. All I care about is finding some way to stop being so scatter-brained.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7707581 - 12/02/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I took some supplements named Broccoli Sprouts and Smart Oxygen a few years ago and they worked pretty good for memory and concentration.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7707639 - 12/02/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not herbal, but fish oil surprisingly boosted my memory and ability to focus... or so it seemed while I was taking it. Flax seed oil would be good too I'd imagine if you're vegetarian.
I was diagnosed with ADHD too and took adderall and strattera. Both awful drugs which I would never recommend to anyone. ADHD is not real in my opinion. It's a way for the establishment to say, "There's something wrong with you because you cannot remain interested in the kinds of things you're supposed to be interested in."
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Lion]
#7707704 - 12/02/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ADHD is not real in my opinion. It's a way for the establishment to say, "There's something wrong with you because you cannot remain interested in the kinds of things you're supposed to be interested in."
Right on!
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7707784 - 12/02/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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PS: Please don't make this a thread about the existence of ADD. I don't care if it's a real disorder or not. All I care about is finding some way to stop being so scatter-brained.
and you think that there is some herb or pill out there that will cure all of this? maybe you have sprained your concentration bone, or Torn the ligament in your attention span....
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Cure, no. Help, yes. I know from experience that the dexedrine did in fact help. I'm just looking for something a little lighter with fewer side effects.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7708948 - 12/02/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Piracetam
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7709053 - 12/02/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can't recommend anything herbal, but mental (maybe a little physical). This all comes down to concentration right? In pretty much every spiritual practice in the world there is a way to develop concentration...well a lot of practices anyway.
Right now I'm reading "Concentration: An Approach to Meditation," by Enest Wood and I am REALLY liking it. I havn't started any of the techniques yet but he makes it available for a 3 month training if you want, otherwise you can just read through. It's not set up like a log book or anything, he just mentions how long to practice each one and which ones to move on to next.
I've only read the first chapter but he really broke down memory and thought associations.
Interestingly enough I noticed after I purchased this book that it was published by the Theosophical Society.
In a purely spiritual approach there is the practice of Tibetan Zhine, where you focus your awareness on an object, which is typically the Tibetan letter "A." A similar Hindu approach is called Trataka where one gently gazes at the tip of a candle flame.
These are all long term investments obviously...maybe something to look into, but I thought you might be interested.
MushmanTheManic, do you have any experience with Piracetam?
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7709943 - 12/03/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can we make this thread an argument about the legitimacy of herbal supplements?
Medtation will cure you but it's hard as hell to meditate every day.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: TheHateCamel]
#7709976 - 12/03/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheHateCamel said: Can we make this thread an argument about the legitimacy of herbal supplements?
Well, like I said, herbal supplements or OTC medicines. And actually, I don't necessarily need something to take every day. Just when I need to concentrate.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7709995 - 12/03/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So any form of self discipline is out of the question?
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: TheHateCamel]
#7710008 - 12/03/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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DMAE is a neurotransmitter that "has been found to increase mental concentration" so says my bottle. With DMAE and proper nutrition you would def see results.
Edited by ChiefGreenLeaf (12/04/07 03:25 PM)
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ChiefGreenLeaf said: MDMA is a neurotransmitter that "has been found to increase mental concentration" so says my bottle. With MDMA and proper nutrition you would def see results.
Maybe, but generally the after-effects are such that one wouldn't have the energy to concentrate the day after dosing. And the kind of thing you'd want to concentrate on on MDMA would be back massages, good music, and intimate conversations, not work, don't ya think?
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: TheHateCamel]
#7710023 - 12/03/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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TheHateCamel said: So any form of self discipline is out of the question?
Of course not. I actually do have a regular meditation routine. But I'm just looking for something that might give me an extra boost when I need it.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7710055 - 12/03/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bacopa Monniera is said to increase concentration and brain function. I've never felt a noticable difference from it, but everyone's different.
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ChiefGreenLeaf said: MDMA is a neurotransmitter that "has been found to increase mental concentration" so says my bottle. With MDMA and proper nutrition you would def see results.
You're kidding right?
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7711015 - 12/03/07 01:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right now I'm using a combination of reishi mushroom, siberian ginseng, rhodiola, and fo-ti. Results have been pretty amazing, better mood, attention span, memory, more energy, better body composition, reduced stress, easier to meditate etc. I buy the materials in bulk and cook them in a slow cooker for 12 hrs or so. Lately I've been taking a little ephedra to top it off, helps me focus and seems to make meditation easier due to increased lung capacity. Will be trying sida cordifolia soon, it's supposed to be easier on the cardiovascular system, due to a higher ratio of pseudoephedrine:ephedrine, compared to ephedra sinica.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7712643 - 12/03/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ephedra sinica
look in some of my old post i give a little review on it, it works for focusing
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7715256 - 12/04/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Siberian Ginseng, Coca (tea, not the isolate)...
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7715973 - 12/04/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ChiefGreenLeaf said: MDMA is a neurotransmitter that "has been found to increase mental concentration" so says my bottle. With MDMA and proper nutrition you would def see results.
You're kidding right?
yay biggest typo ever. DMAE is what should have been said
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I actually didn't think it was a typo, as MDMA is chemically similar to amphetamines, and low doses would have a similar effect to the Dexedrine I used to take. Of course, I would have the dilemma of choosing whether to get some work done or to molest the carpet.
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Re: Herbal concentration aides? [Re: Silversoul]
#7717236 - 12/04/07 08:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ginseng. Also make sure you are getting a good balance of omega-3s and omega 6s'
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