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Fucked Up From Hallucinogens
    #7707356 - 12/02/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just curious. I am 42 now. When I was 13 I started tripping on acid. It was good shit back then. Windowpane, Red Dragon, etc, the thing is I was a punk rocker and Satanist and street kid in Hollywood.

At some point by the age of 15 I started feeling possessed by Satan when tripping, and I felt my nervous system was fucked up totally. I needed to get myself together. Which I did, obviously, or I wouldn't have survived.

I got into Eastern stuff. That was my cure.

My question is this. It seems the variety of drugs now are much more plentiful, and it seems like so many more people trip than ever before.

I am curious how many of you feel you have fucked yourselves up. (I am not judging or trying to start a flame war, I am just curious).


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7707422 - 12/02/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder about this a lot; I honestly can't tell that the general character of my cognition is much different now than before I began tripping. I could be wrong but I don't believe it is.

I think the general culture among psychedelics and their users is pretty different these days. There's a ton of information available, thanks to the Internet, which gives people the ability to learn a lot about the drugs they're interested in before they use them. There are fewer people using them carelessly or based on poor information, and more people using them who in the past would have simply disregarded them as illegal drugs for lack of information. The end result is that there are fewer freakouts than there used to be.

Obviously there are exceptions. These people occasionally show up here and incite ten-page-long discussions about how "irresponsible" they are.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7707435 - 12/02/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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eve69 said:I am curious how many of you feel you have fucked yourselves up. (I am not judging or trying to start a flame war, I am just curious).




I think that the intention of doing the drug carries manifests itself.

With that being said...

I wouldn't change a thing that I did (or was under the influence of)

I am very glad that you found Your cure

For me, psychedelics have helped me realize and remember


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7707730 - 12/02/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I had a horrible trip a while back. Now im on Probation.

I have been sober 7 months and everyday i wake up and ponder my existence, how i got myself into this position, and reflecting on the things Mushrooms, acid, and ecstasy have taught me......or perhaps what ive managed to teach myself.


I caint explain it but things are amazing for me. There are times....out of the blue, where my environment gets so "WEIRD" that i caint help but laugh and be happy for not only surviving what ive been through. But to be here and be human.

I was playing playstation for a while then when i shut it off 3 hours or so i looked around. I got a HUGE grin at my face and looked at all my cloths i had. I looked at how nice it was to have the ability to have a luxury of cloth to keep me warm during this cold part of the season.


I caint explain it SHIT! But yes ive changed. I hope i live a LONG ass time getting the most out of life. The only way Mushrooms or Acid have "Fucked me up" is sometimes i quesion my reality SOOO much that it doesnt make any sense. Theres some dissorder they lable it as. I think i have a mild case of it. Its only weird though. IT aint hurting me


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7707862 - 12/02/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The only way i have changed (some would say fucked me up but i disagree) is that hallucinogens have drastically changed my outlook on life. I am much more open minded and my perception on life is totally changed. The only thing i find different about myself is that i am more at peace with myself and the world, and i have a different view of life/death/religion in general.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: DiscipleofGarcia]
    #7707890 - 12/02/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Psychedelics DID change my life, but I would certainly not say fucked me up, in that prior to my experiences with them I spent 90% of my life playing video games and not even thinking about what else there was. Weed, mushrooms, and LSD showed me that the world is an impossibly beautiful place outside of my room, and that video games are nothing more than a really sophisticated children's toy (even though they ARE pretty awesome sometimes and I still play them, just not nearly as much).

Mushrooms also taught me to love myself and that love for my fellow man should always be chosen instead of hate, no matter the circumstance. To hate a human being is to hate yourself.

I feel like psychedelics are somewhat of a "toy" as well, just of a very different sort. The important part, as with anything else in life, is that you keep what you've learned close to your heart.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
    #7707993 - 12/02/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In ways I've changed things for the worse. In ways for the better....a lot better.

I was a fucking tard as a kid, I got manipulated by the system ( my choice of excuse ) and got sucked into believing all drugs were evil, no matter what, you were destroying yourself in some way shape or form. I got peer pressured into smoking weed, which I never would have done......And I don't mean " Hey man come on hit it you'll love it" I mean " hit this fucking hookah or all 8 of us will beat your fucking ass" ( I didn't hang out with these guys, I was dating one of their sisters and they all came home and forced me to smoke ) and amazingly enough I loved it ( still under the impression that drugs were evil, and apperently too stupid to look up proper information ).

So In light of my new found love for pot, I thought I was killing my brain, my lungs, and myself, but I didn't care...I was 13 and happier then I had ever been. This I think was amazing...it opened my mind to new possibilities, made me more social ( both of these things remain true ).

Then I huffed gas......

This was more of peer pressure, I started running with that pack of "people" that forced me into potheadedness, and they all said..." man this is 100x better than acid ( The ONE drug I desperatly wanted to try, but unfortunatly it was MIA ) and it only lasts a few minutes so if you freak out ( something I was worried about with acid ) it'll end really fast.

This is 1 of three drug using mistakes I made during this shitty shitty period in my life (age 15-17 ), and I do heavily regret it ( except for the fact I can speak from experience when I explain to other people why they shouldn't do it, not just tell them not to )

I huffed gas a decent amount, I can't remember how many times ( I'd say 25-35 times ), it was years ago, and it definetely did some damage to my brain ( started getting rages, stuttering, not being able to say bigger, less used words on demand...had to stop and think about it ), but for some reason I kept doing it......

I don't know why I didn't research what I was doing....I regret it...I'm not telling this story proudly...just telling it because it happened and I can't change the past, just evolve from it. I heard all the D.A.R.E Warnings about huffing gas.....I also heard all the D.A.R.E warnings about smoking pot....I guess I was just being to egotistical and thickheaded and prepubscent to actually use my damn brain.

The other two mistakes I made was abusing over the counter meds....Little bit of dramamine...A lot of DXM ( unfortunatly starting off with triple c's ). I only regret these becasue they are stupid drugs ( I still like DXM, but would never ever use it again ), and the triple c's probably did a little damage to my innards ( I've had liver checks and that bad boys still undamaged but that's the only check I've had).

Once again, I regret this...I'm not proud...I'm only telling because it was asked.



Cue LSD and mushrooms.

First mushroom trip.....BAM.....it was like an overpowering gigantic unbeatable force grabbed me and slammed me into the back of my couch, paralyzed me, and screamed at me for 5 hours ( not literally just a good way to interpret the way I was feeling ). It was complete self analyzation, all I could think about was " why the fuck do I do, the things that I do" and it hit me......I don't have to.....I don't have to act like anyone....I don't have to do anything......I'm me.....

After this I quit doing a lot of stupid shit.....Ya I still abused drugs ( and still do to this day ) but I do it because I want to...not because someone else does.....I realized who I am...and why I am who I am....

Now the speech problems I got from huffing cleared up to the point where it only happens when I'm stoned......and I think it's just because I'm stoned. I have a damn bad temper, what I would consider anger problems....but I had those way way way before drugs, I won't go into detail but at 4 years old I was seeing a counseler.

The use of hallucinogens ( mainly lsd and mush, salvia has played apart in my awakening, along with dmt and MDMA, but mainly lsd and mush ) has made me realize my ignorance. It's made me except my ignorance. It's made me learn to leap over my ignorance and think for myself...use my brain ( I have a 140 IQ and I wasted it through my youth ) .

So have drugs fucked me up? No. I fucked me up, and drugs ran in for the save........I was on a downhill path to destruction, and if I would've found say METH before I found LSD and MUSH I could be tweeked a out schizo, locked up in jail. Hallucinogens helped me become at peace with who I became, who I was, and who I will be.....I couldn't think of a better gift.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7708010 - 12/02/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't say that I fucked myself up at all.
I've only been doing acid and cannabis on a regular basis for years, and just recently, mushrooms.

I wasn't interested then, and am still not interested, in non-psychedelic drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth, etc.
Just not my thing.

I was never looking for an escape from reality, but a way to expand my awareness and experiment with other forms of consciousness.
Those other drugs do nothing for me in that respect.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7708440 - 12/02/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't live my life around drugs. They're just something I return to when I feel the need. Use drugs as a means to an end and not the end itself, and you will never (almost never) get fucked over by them.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7708459 - 12/02/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ever since i did shrooms, my outlook on life has changed. before the shroom days, i would fail school, smoke weed and basically not give a fuck.
now i actully see my self studying and making myself useful. i even got a job.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: sup its god]
    #7708837 - 12/02/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think tripping within the context I do has helped me alot. Most of the time when people think they are fucked up it is because they confront something that they are not comfortable with, that their society and worldview haven't prepared them for, and then they, their family, doctors and politicians all pathologize it as lunacy, when it was simply a normal response to seeing that the things you were taught were wrong. People that truly get "fucked up" are the ones who move backwards and hide out in shallow things like alcohol, corporate life and consumer culture and never resolve the conflict. In order to grow and be enlightened we all have to experience the conflict and work through it to a new awareness, because I believe most of what we've known has been wrong.

I think what our culture tells us about drugs messes more people up than the drugs themselves because they tell you that if you see anything different than they do you must be crazy and you have no way of dealing with what you have seen. People dismiss what may be the most significant life changing experiences as stupidity, immorality and insanity. Instead you are made to feel like a deviant or a bad person simply because other people have no idea what they are talking about and you never get to intergrate or understand your experience.

The other side of this is that psychedelics open many doors and amplify both positive and negative sides of the human psyche. Thus, you probobly won't hear alot of people say that it was either all good or all bad for them. Where it gets hard and alot of people drop out or become "casualties" is when the dark side inevitably starts to emerge and they would rather not confront it. I think you have to make peace with both ends of the coin to find contentment, but for some esp. at young ages this is too frightening and they haven't been informed about the best ways to trip and integrate the experience.

What you may find is that alot of people today are more accurately informed about the benefits, hazards and byproducts of tripping and have a more established sense of context. Thanks to the internet we can learn from the experiences of others who have come before us, both in recreational use and even in psychiatry. I'm sure that helps ALOT compared to randomly ingesting intense mind altering chemicals with not sense of what you are doing and having heard nothing except that it makes you insane or fries your brain.

In the end nothing can really fuck up someone who is determined to find the truth and be a better person. The difficulties along the way are learning experiences.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7709887 - 12/03/07 08:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I am curious how many of you feel you have fucked yourselves up. (I am not judging or trying to start a flame war, I am just curious).




No, you save that for other peoples threads, right?

Mushrooms saved my life. When i was in my juvenile delinquent, fuck the world mode, mushrooms taught me about karma, amongst other things, and completely changed my negative behaviors, and world views.
I believe if i hadn't had that ego death experiece i would be dead, or in prison.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7709981 - 12/03/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think when you become more open-minded, you can end up speaking with less certainty, questioning what you're going to say before it even comes out of your mouth and even drifting into thought in mid-conversation. You might also put less of a priority on labeling and categorizing things with language, favoring raw experience instead and because of that, see your language skills worsen. Plus, the less you feel you're defined by social roles, the less adept you might become at conforming to them when you want to just to avoid making a scene. Since drugs tend to open your mind, all these things can cause people (or even you yourself) to think of you as being "crazed" or "messed up" by the drugs.

Then again, you could actually be more confused than before without having gained anything from the drugs.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7710042 - 12/03/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Shrooms damn near saved my life. I used to be depressed, in bed all day, very negative. I spent months in my room, or thinking I needed to escape. Road trip, trips to other countries, etc.., I traveled around for months, but due to being negative, obtained nothing from the trips while I was experiencing them. The first time I tripped, I was blown away at what the brain was capable of. I then became very interested in "Eastern stuff" and art, and my outlook on life/society changed completely.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Quake3]
    #7710073 - 12/03/07 09:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7710106 - 12/03/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...




are you being sarcastic? I honestly can't tell. You're right, if you don't want to notice more about the world around you, don't do shrooms.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7710228 - 12/03/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

key to not getting fucked up is dont have the intent of taking drugs to get fucked up or high or any of that shit. im gald when people develope issuses cause then maybe they might realise what the fuck there doing and chill the fuck out.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: thedudenj]
    #7710574 - 12/03/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Mushrooms also taught me to love myself and that love for my fellow man should always be chosen instead of hate, no matter the circumstance. To hate a human being is to hate yourself.




same here. it's not like you take mushrooms/acid and you instantly change for the better: they just make it plain and clear. and it need constant reminder and practice for me. i haven't turned unto a hippie but now i try to uphold the inner truths i discovered while tripping. a lot of times i see people coming to the right conclusion wile tripping but when they're done they forget it again. that leaves them into a dead circle, kind of. they haven't found a way to practice the ideals found while tripping in every day life.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7710756 - 12/03/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

kind of hard to say.

i was kind of crazy as a kid, i thought there was all sorts of secret information that would reveal itself if i thought enough.

then when i was 18 i started using datura, and that sucked so i quickly began using dxm instead, then everything else.

i guess i found lots of secret information? the drugs showed me what i was looking for.

but it was too much, so i quit using drugs and now i feel basically back to normal, pretty much the same as i would have been if i'd never done them. but now there is always that crazy voice in the back of my head reminding me of all the crazy shit thats going on that i refuse to pay attention to.

there was alot of good stuff though. how to think, feel, and act in many many different ways, that i might not have figured out on my own. and although i don't use those possibilities, its nice to know they're still there.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7711065 - 12/03/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms never showed me anything new, it just made me realize what was already in front of me. What was in front of me? Infinite.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7711093 - 12/03/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Our society has been designed to deprive us constantly of any sense of reality. If they can tell you who you are, and how you should act, they control the very nature of your mind. These psychedelic substances may appear to make someone insane, but in reality the lack of truthful information regarding existence in this western world is what causes a susceptible individual to question everything he/she is told. The problem is that a lot of the alternative information is either someones paranoid delusions, or disinformation campaigns sponsored by the agencies in power. Either way it is in our best interest to come together as human beings, proliferate the truth (the nature of the spirit, the lies this society has been built upon) and break all the fences that have been built around us. If we let them try us like cattle, cattle we'll become.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7712233 - 12/03/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some awesome stories in this thread.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7712894 - 12/03/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...




Not being sarcastic, I can agree with this statement right here. I haven't done shrooms in over a year so this has certainly wore off now.

But for some time I would notice little things like "why" people say what they say, what seemed to be their true intentions, "reading between the lines" if you will. And I seemded to have this strange ESP ability that wasn't always a good thing.

It's hard to explain, but it seemed like I had a little bit of influence of what people thought or felt. Like if I thought of something negative regarding how somebody thought about me, it seemed to manifest into reality and become real. Not sure if it was just my confused, over receptiveness, or what... but it really creeped me out... It's like, "I better not think of that cheese in the fridge molding," and next thing you know it molds! DAMNIT! It happened again, why did I think of it, now it's true...


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: BuddhaTree]
    #7712996 - 12/03/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I notice when I'm stoned I question 'why' people say the things they do and see true intentions

somewhere between when I first started using drugs to the present I developed some anxiety and ocd tendincies.  The ocd has gotten bad at times and so has the anxiety but usually I can keep it under control and live my life
I dont know what its from though:
a) it just happened due to circumstances in life
b) I did coke somewhat heavily for a year, after that I stopped which was like 2 years ago
c) from psychedelics, I've only done acid about 4 times but I've tripped on shrooms probably 15 or so I dont really count :lol:

anyways I still smoke weed and do psychedelics probably 5-6 times a year. sometimes weed brings on anxiety even more than being sober but usually I enjoy it


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: druglord]
    #7713806 - 12/04/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think when you become more open-minded, you can end up speaking with less certainty, questioning what you're going to say before it even comes out of your mouth and even drifting into thought in mid-conversation. You might also put less of a priority on labeling and categorizing things with language, favoring raw experience instead and because of that, see your language skills worsen. Plus, the less you feel you're defined by social roles, the less adept you might become at conforming to them when you want to just to avoid making a scene. Since drugs tend to open your mind, all these things can cause people (or even you yourself) to think of you as being "crazed" or "messed up" by the drugs.

Then again, you could actually be more confused than before without having gained anything from the drugs.




Interesting point - I think a lot of that has happened to me...but in the good way (in my view). I sometimes ramble on and sidetrack because there are so many different views - sometimes conflicting views which stops me dead in my tracks and forces me to rethink everything.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7713856 - 12/04/07 02:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some of this has happened to me too, the language skills in particular. I have more trouble expressing my thoughts through words than I used to because I think too much about how those particular words might be misunderstood, and I realize how hard many statements are to make without support or without stating the obvious. I feel I'm not always as confident in making my points as I used to be.

So much of language is superfluous, yet it falls so short of our needs. Or maybe quasi-weekly psychedelic use has amplified my linguistic neuroses.

I still recognize my social boundaries pretty well, though I strive not to let them constrict my self-expression.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7713998 - 12/04/07 04:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've learn everything is precious. Every feeling and every emotion is now joy to me.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7715793 - 12/04/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Love that Avatar SmellyMushroom.

Well I started the thread simply because I had any number of bad trips as a kid. I must say that I cleaned up for about seven years and then came upon some liquid - around '1990', but the euphoria of acid never came back for me. Nor did the bad trip. Instead the trip was sort of just there, but I looked through it. I guess one could say the magic was gone.

But then I found Torch and did that a whole lot and still like it quite a bit. However, I felt myself getting spacey in general and had to cut that out too.

I just find it hard to believe that people don't have any 'bad' trips that leave them feeling damaged. I mean, I know some here did profess to that. Or to feeling more open.

But like when I was young I was into Satanism, and I hung out with a midget, and we read tarot and Crowley all the time, and we were highly occult, and we tripped and Robert Plant's "like I've Never Been Gone" off his first solo album came on, and all of a sudden I was in hell, and feeling like the end result of a Led Zeppelin song (one I had never heard before, which I knew couldn't happen since they had broken up) and my midget friend started throwing around my tarot cards talking about weird shit and I felt I was going to become him and it was all too scarey, and then I felt that everyone was mocking me, and making catcalls (they were-this was in North Hollywood-typical behavior) and then I felt like I was so messed up that I hadn't ever lived before and was a loser. And so on. I told myself over and over it was just the drugs. I prayed and nothing happened. Then.

Later, I credit the bad trips with helping me straighten out. But I wasn't all that upset with being the weird punk rocker that I was before that. I rather enjoyed being weird. After about ten or fifteen bad trips in that vein I finally felt what I would call 'societal normal' which I didn't much care for. But it made me more materialistic which I needed or I would have died on the streets. So everyone has their story.

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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7715865 - 12/04/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Love that Avatar SmellyMushroom.




Thanks. Made it myself :smile:




Well it seems you've learned from it, wich is not a bad thing at all. It's the purpose of these drugs for a lot of people. I wouldn't call this ''fucked up''.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7715941 - 12/04/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Acid made you become more societally acceptable? That's odd, but sure doesn't sound like 'fucked up' to me.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7716248 - 12/04/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The only time i ever felt like i had fucked myself up after taking some hallucinogenics was when i tried to fight the ride.

Fighting it, to me, seems like the only reason anyone could become mentally ill afterwards.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7716610 - 12/04/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...




I think this is a legitimate point, but is debatable. One can say that the reason we don't notice much of the mundane things around us is because this is evolutionarily a disadvantage. Staring at the floor in nature can get you killed, and none of the stuff you notice really serves any purpose in terms of our necessities. These things (shine, diffused light, patterns, textures, colors, etc) are nevertheless very entertaining and philosophical, but is opening the door of perception a step backwards?

But.. this assumes that opening the door is permanent. Is it? I don't think so, so I don't think there's a risk of permanent "damage" in using psychedelics, other than HPPD maybe. I've asked around and just about everyone has ADD. It's related to our lifestyle, not psychedelics. SMS, Internet, etc.. all contribute to our ADD epidemic. The reason we can't concentrate on anything is due to that and not to you having tripped 6 months ago.

However, one thing I did permanently notice after I began tripped is how shiny things are. The world just seems brighter. However, this is only if I really pay attention and is likely more related to me constantly being present in the moment and not in a day dream.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Quake3]
    #7716894 - 12/04/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you go a long time without using mushrooms all that 'extra stuff' that you notice does in fact go away, until all you have is the memory of a memory you once had of a greater understanding of your own mind.  Personally to me the thought of ever completely losing that is terrifying.  Good thing i have :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7717155 - 12/04/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think that the "extra stuff" that you noticed ever goes away.
Maybe we just fall asleep from time to time.
But that is kinda voluntary.
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