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OfflineDreamSignals
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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7711093 - 12/03/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Our society has been designed to deprive us constantly of any sense of reality. If they can tell you who you are, and how you should act, they control the very nature of your mind. These psychedelic substances may appear to make someone insane, but in reality the lack of truthful information regarding existence in this western world is what causes a susceptible individual to question everything he/she is told. The problem is that a lot of the alternative information is either someones paranoid delusions, or disinformation campaigns sponsored by the agencies in power. Either way it is in our best interest to come together as human beings, proliferate the truth (the nature of the spirit, the lies this society has been built upon) and break all the fences that have been built around us. If we let them try us like cattle, cattle we'll become.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7712233 - 12/03/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some awesome stories in this thread.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7712894 - 12/03/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Mastamike1118 said:
i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...




Not being sarcastic, I can agree with this statement right here. I haven't done shrooms in over a year so this has certainly wore off now.

But for some time I would notice little things like "why" people say what they say, what seemed to be their true intentions, "reading between the lines" if you will. And I seemded to have this strange ESP ability that wasn't always a good thing.

It's hard to explain, but it seemed like I had a little bit of influence of what people thought or felt. Like if I thought of something negative regarding how somebody thought about me, it seemed to manifest into reality and become real. Not sure if it was just my confused, over receptiveness, or what... but it really creeped me out... It's like, "I better not think of that cheese in the fridge molding," and next thing you know it molds! DAMNIT! It happened again, why did I think of it, now it's true...


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: BuddhaTree]
    #7712996 - 12/03/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I notice when I'm stoned I question 'why' people say the things they do and see true intentions

somewhere between when I first started using drugs to the present I developed some anxiety and ocd tendincies.  The ocd has gotten bad at times and so has the anxiety but usually I can keep it under control and live my life
I dont know what its from though:
a) it just happened due to circumstances in life
b) I did coke somewhat heavily for a year, after that I stopped which was like 2 years ago
c) from psychedelics, I've only done acid about 4 times but I've tripped on shrooms probably 15 or so I dont really count :lol:

anyways I still smoke weed and do psychedelics probably 5-6 times a year. sometimes weed brings on anxiety even more than being sober but usually I enjoy it


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: druglord]
    #7713806 - 12/04/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think when you become more open-minded, you can end up speaking with less certainty, questioning what you're going to say before it even comes out of your mouth and even drifting into thought in mid-conversation. You might also put less of a priority on labeling and categorizing things with language, favoring raw experience instead and because of that, see your language skills worsen. Plus, the less you feel you're defined by social roles, the less adept you might become at conforming to them when you want to just to avoid making a scene. Since drugs tend to open your mind, all these things can cause people (or even you yourself) to think of you as being "crazed" or "messed up" by the drugs.

Then again, you could actually be more confused than before without having gained anything from the drugs.




Interesting point - I think a lot of that has happened to me...but in the good way (in my view). I sometimes ramble on and sidetrack because there are so many different views - sometimes conflicting views which stops me dead in my tracks and forces me to rethink everything.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: fazdazzle]
    #7713856 - 12/04/07 02:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some of this has happened to me too, the language skills in particular. I have more trouble expressing my thoughts through words than I used to because I think too much about how those particular words might be misunderstood, and I realize how hard many statements are to make without support or without stating the obvious. I feel I'm not always as confident in making my points as I used to be.

So much of language is superfluous, yet it falls so short of our needs. Or maybe quasi-weekly psychedelic use has amplified my linguistic neuroses.

I still recognize my social boundaries pretty well, though I strive not to let them constrict my self-expression.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7713998 - 12/04/07 04:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've learn everything is precious. Every feeling and every emotion is now joy to me.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7715793 - 12/04/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Love that Avatar SmellyMushroom.

Well I started the thread simply because I had any number of bad trips as a kid. I must say that I cleaned up for about seven years and then came upon some liquid - around '1990', but the euphoria of acid never came back for me. Nor did the bad trip. Instead the trip was sort of just there, but I looked through it. I guess one could say the magic was gone.

But then I found Torch and did that a whole lot and still like it quite a bit. However, I felt myself getting spacey in general and had to cut that out too.

I just find it hard to believe that people don't have any 'bad' trips that leave them feeling damaged. I mean, I know some here did profess to that. Or to feeling more open.

But like when I was young I was into Satanism, and I hung out with a midget, and we read tarot and Crowley all the time, and we were highly occult, and we tripped and Robert Plant's "like I've Never Been Gone" off his first solo album came on, and all of a sudden I was in hell, and feeling like the end result of a Led Zeppelin song (one I had never heard before, which I knew couldn't happen since they had broken up) and my midget friend started throwing around my tarot cards talking about weird shit and I felt I was going to become him and it was all too scarey, and then I felt that everyone was mocking me, and making catcalls (they were-this was in North Hollywood-typical behavior) and then I felt like I was so messed up that I hadn't ever lived before and was a loser. And so on. I told myself over and over it was just the drugs. I prayed and nothing happened. Then.

Later, I credit the bad trips with helping me straighten out. But I wasn't all that upset with being the weird punk rocker that I was before that. I rather enjoyed being weird. After about ten or fifteen bad trips in that vein I finally felt what I would call 'societal normal' which I didn't much care for. But it made me more materialistic which I needed or I would have died on the streets. So everyone has their story.

Anyway, y'all thanks for writing.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: eve69]
    #7715865 - 12/04/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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eve69 said:
Love that Avatar SmellyMushroom.




Thanks. Made it myself :smile:




Well it seems you've learned from it, wich is not a bad thing at all. It's the purpose of these drugs for a lot of people. I wouldn't call this ''fucked up''.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7715941 - 12/04/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Acid made you become more societally acceptable? That's odd, but sure doesn't sound like 'fucked up' to me.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7716248 - 12/04/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The only time i ever felt like i had fucked myself up after taking some hallucinogenics was when i tried to fight the ride.

Fighting it, to me, seems like the only reason anyone could become mentally ill afterwards.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7716610 - 12/04/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Mastamike1118 said:
i think i fucked myself up because i can sense things a lot better now and this is not a good thing... i am unsure of what to do and am trying to go back to not noticing these things...

shrooms changed how i looked at everything and i understand that i did this myself with my own thoughts but now i cant help but to notice things which seem to make people uncomfortable some of the time its wierd....

on a positive note i do understand things a lot better... but i wish i didnt notice these things...




I think this is a legitimate point, but is debatable. One can say that the reason we don't notice much of the mundane things around us is because this is evolutionarily a disadvantage. Staring at the floor in nature can get you killed, and none of the stuff you notice really serves any purpose in terms of our necessities. These things (shine, diffused light, patterns, textures, colors, etc) are nevertheless very entertaining and philosophical, but is opening the door of perception a step backwards?

But.. this assumes that opening the door is permanent. Is it? I don't think so, so I don't think there's a risk of permanent "damage" in using psychedelics, other than HPPD maybe. I've asked around and just about everyone has ADD. It's related to our lifestyle, not psychedelics. SMS, Internet, etc.. all contribute to our ADD epidemic. The reason we can't concentrate on anything is due to that and not to you having tripped 6 months ago.

However, one thing I did permanently notice after I began tripped is how shiny things are. The world just seems brighter. However, this is only if I really pay attention and is likely more related to me constantly being present in the moment and not in a day dream.


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: Quake3]
    #7716894 - 12/04/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If you go a long time without using mushrooms all that 'extra stuff' that you notice does in fact go away, until all you have is the memory of a memory you once had of a greater understanding of your own mind.  Personally to me the thought of ever completely losing that is terrifying.  Good thing i have :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: Fucked Up From Hallucinogens [Re: g00ru]
    #7717155 - 12/04/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think that the "extra stuff" that you noticed ever goes away.
Maybe we just fall asleep from time to time.
But that is kinda voluntary.
Once you know, you can't go back


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