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How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia...
    #7707209 - 12/02/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, sure, it's fun to just do Salvia just to get high, but there's really no point to it. I want to be able to gain something from the experience, something I can apply to me life. Granted, I've had a few very powerful spiritual experiences on it, it's rare... most of the time, I just go completely mentally detached from everything else, go into my little world, stuck in a thought loop, part of some machine... then I snap back to reality, left with the thought "what the fuck was that?" What did the mazatecs learn from it? Why did they do it? Or is there a purpose? I'd be fine if there wasn't, but I just don't want to miss it, just in case there IS a purpose...


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7707230 - 12/02/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard that using the leaves is more gentle and subtle then the extract, better for slowly dipping into the salvia world and learning about it/yourself.

I've smoked the leaves but that was simply a weaker version of the extract. What you're suppose to do is soak the leaves in alchohol and then roll them all into a little ball and chew it in your mouth or let it drip down your throat. I have the same experience as you with smoking the extract.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7707312 - 12/02/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I've been smoking plain homegrown leaves lately, and I agree, they're like a low extract. I do enjoy the subtlety of the plain leaf...


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NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7707316 - 12/02/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I never felt like it was worth shit.

Like the feelings on acid or phenylethylamines where you suddenly realize the "way things really are"


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: johnm214]
    #7707686 - 12/02/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Personally i don't think Salvia has much to offer, Shroom trip or an Acid trip can teach you way more faster.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Infested]
    #7707729 - 12/02/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What you get from it ranges greatly from person to person. The problem with Sal. D. is that so much can happen so quickly that most people don't take in what it shows you. Anyways...


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Goatfish]
    #7708131 - 12/02/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I really think it has a purpose... everything has a purpose. I dunno, there are people who don't get anything from it, but I feel a special connection to it, like it's drawing me to it.


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I'm in need of a sterile sporeprint, if anyone wants to do a trade for some seeds or something, or maybe just for free if you have a lot of them............. i'd really appreciate it :mushroom2:

NuggetPorch said - "YES! YES!!!! Coaster its Faint, but its fucking there YOU see it!!! Perhaps we are both on some sort of unusual wave length associated with unusual neuro-transmitters, mind expansion white light, or something we can not even begin to understand or fathom to conceive because it is a gift of insight or a curse given to us by powers beyond our control, something we are not meant to know."


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7708245 - 12/02/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would not be so snarkey about everything having/needing a purpose.
especially one that we are equipped to know.

Then again psychedelics can be used as tools as well as for entertainment. and tools are considered purposed things.

The mazatecs used salvia to find things and to heal.
you could say it is a medicine for healing or finding.

If you are experiencing "What the fuck!" from it, back off your dose.
This usually means you are passing in and out of amnesia, level 6.
there is no need to be that bewildered. Salvia goes fast, so many mistake the passage as not deep enough when in fact it was just right but finished before they got attuned to it.

lsd and shrooms on the other hand keep up their rhythm long enough for slower people to come up to speed. (so if you adjust slowly to mental states, salvia is not going to work for you.)


As to the actual usage again:
finding things may mean they were lost (i.e. misplaced), or may mean they are missing (you never had them) and you discover the missing thing.

healing may be on the spot relief, or understanding how to heal by changing your direction.

as for entertainment, that is always a matter of taste.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7708273 - 12/02/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

try making a tea from it, then the experience will last longer and it would be easier to get something out of it. Although, you don't really HAVE to have more time to get something out of it... i say this because of DMT. But I do know people that get a lot out of salvia trips, I think you should meditate on it. And when you smoke it, do it with the right intentions.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7708298 - 12/02/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Salvia Divinorum is bizarre, I haven't been able to figure it out yet. Smoke some pure Salvinorin A, I gaurantee you'll 'learn something'


Edited by Ombient (12/03/07 12:31 PM)


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Robo]
    #7709283 - 12/03/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

salvia is soo crazy, i never 'blacked out and couldnt remember it" ever and ive done high potencies i remember vividly each encounter i have with the salvia 'conscience' each time is very different but feels the same. With high doses theres an immobility that comes, you trip ON your setting not like with cid and shrooms, where your trip IN you setting.
My most frightful experience was on plain old 20x from my local smoke/porn shop, i felt as if i stumbled over a glich in the universe and got stuck in time, and couldnt connect this with the hit i took just seconds earlier (thus i didnt know what or why this was happening at that moment). i look around in a frozen 2d perspective, the music was repeating/like in a scratched CD skipping way (idk if it was a weird song or what, it was at a friends house) and all that i saw was skipping back and forth with the skipping music. as i took a step back to reality, i look over at my nearest buddy, and i see his 3d head pop out of the 2d plane and start talking, his body still in 2d with the rest of the room.

i also had the feeling like i became the room, and before my buddy 'popped out of the picture' i pushed myself out of the room and back into ME, i felt like i hurt myself from severing my body from the floor- like i was bleeding from my front side (i somehow went from sitting to belly down on the floor)from the seperation.

i have the utmost respect for lady salvia, you just gotta understand she likes fucking with you at first.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: SurReality]
    #7709845 - 12/03/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have a little more than 2 grams of 5X Salvia left. Anyone want it?


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Grylls]
    #7709871 - 12/03/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah sure!

I got some aya to swap if its legal where you live?


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7709930 - 12/03/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The more of a divergence there is between your normal mode of perception and an altered one you experience, the harder it is to recall what you experienced in the altered one: state-specific memory.

So you can bridge the gap either by using a weaker/longer-lasting drug/dose (continuing to state the obvious here) or by expanding your normal mode of perception--i.e. by becoming wiser. This way, your insights won't seem as vague and obscure afterwards and they'll be more robust.

I have major problems recalling salvia trip realizations but one thing that helps is to preserve your trip settings after the trip is over. For me, this means continuing to lie still and stay focused on the thoughts I had for an hour or so and then attempting to put them into language for the sake of memorization.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: druglord]
    #7710317 - 12/03/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thats an interesting theory you have, druglord. and well flattering, i would agree with it though- ive always been a smart little nerd lol, most kids i know really don't seem to have experiences like mine or at least remember them. i've found this strange since i remember each experience vividly and find it to be more powerful than acid or any other hallucinogen (i have yet to experience dmt). alot of people think i've never done good or much acid to think salvia is stronger than it. but ive done 3 hits in one night, its not a higher than typical dose but i certainly didn't miss out on what my favorite drug had to offer, ya just because salvia's more powerful doesn't mean ill take salvia over some blotter.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: druglord]
    #7710322 - 12/03/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

exactly


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7710381 - 12/03/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

write everything you can remember down straight away. the memory fades very quickly, but i still have a list of salvia trips on my computer. and they spark the whole thing again given enough thought.


tis the only way to truly learn from it imo. Can be a great teacher though if you give it enough thought. Can also lead to obsession tho. piecing everything together for a glimpse at the big picture, to find out what you truly believe....i suggest caution


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Ego Death]
    #7710742 - 12/03/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I got some aya to swap if its legal where you live?



Better jump on that one :awesome:


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7710758 - 12/03/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Siekoaktiv said:
Yeah, sure, it's fun to just do Salvia just to get high




Not for me it isn't.


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Great Scott]
    #7711568 - 12/03/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I hate my state, it's fucking illegal here now, just recently..


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Re: How to GET SOMETHING out of Salvia... [Re: Love Cap]
    #7711637 - 12/03/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ya, but im suprised its legal at all, i highly doubted that by the time i was old enough to buy it it would actually still be legal... and now im selling it :-P


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