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clemens
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mescaline failur
#7706939 - 12/02/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My attempt last night to make some San Pedro tea from 15 inches of cactus failed. Only cooked for about 3 hours so maybe that was the problem. I definitely felt the drug but it was a real bummer I didn't have enough to really get a taste. I boiled it on low for 3 hours and then strained through a t-shirt into a cup and drank it. The left over mush was still a bit green so maybe I really didn't boil it long enough. What little I felt I can compare to a slight mushroom body high. How could I improve myself?
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jmg5
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: clemens]
#7706974 - 12/02/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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drying it first will help with any method of ingestion if your cactus was wet there's no way to estimate what dose you took based on the length of the plant
the easiest option would be to concentrate it with alcohol dry it, powder it, extract with alcohol, filter then evaporate it doesn't take much longer to yield mescaline hcl, though
if you don't want to do an extraction I still recommend drying all your material if your cactus was dry and you think you got the dose right it is possible the cactus is weak
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Moo456
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: jmg5]
#7707234 - 12/02/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adding lemon juice to the brew seems to help a lot. Another trick is to freeze the material before to break down the cell walls of the cacti. But then again maybe it was just a weak cactus.
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thedudenj
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: Moo456]
#7710256 - 12/03/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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passion flower helps alot too
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clemens
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: thedudenj]
#7712030 - 12/03/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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^ Contains some Maoi right? Combine that with mescaline could be dangerous right? When boiling a san pedro what should the final product look like? Mine was still a shade of green and in the instructions it looked sorta yellow. Is it possible I didn't boil it long enough?
From what little I felt I don't see how one can hallucinate from mescaline. It made me feel more calm and relaxed. There was this urge to go for a walk but that soon went away when I got a cramp. Next time should I use a 15 inch cactus again?
Is it possible I just had a reverse tollerence effect like with a lot of drugs? I have had that effect with salvia, MDMA, pot, pills, and coke.
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thedudenj
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: clemens]
#7714465 - 12/04/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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passion flower really isnt an issuse let alone caapi. rue is a issuse tho if you use to much cause it will cause great vomiting, i havnt had that problem but someone i know has. a legit SWIM lol
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: clemens]
#7714579 - 12/04/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You probably just had weak cactus.
It's kind of hard to fuck up the preparation. If you boilied it in water for more than a matter of minutes, you got a significant amount of the alkaloids out.
The only mistakes that are really made with boiling preparations is like adding a lot of acid or not concentrating the extracted water enough, or using a blender or something. This kind of stuff will only make the brew hard to drink and nasty, not inactive.
From what you wrote, it appears that your cactus was active, just not very strong. Low doses of mescaline can be confusing (just like low doses of LSD) in the sense that it's difficult to distinguish drug effects from your own mind.
Sounds like it worked, you just need some more or better cactus to really get there.
Oh yeah, I used to take syrian rue and cactus a lot before I ever found out about the high levels of tyramine in cactus preparations. I never noticed much, except of course trip enhancement. Not saying that it's safe (I don't do it anymore) but that it's not just overtly dangerous.
Passionflower would be better, as having a weaker MAOI effect.
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thedudenj
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even smoking passion flower aids alot. i suggest everyone try it if they can
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clemens
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: thedudenj]
#7716124 - 12/04/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So next time I should do the same prep and eat passion flower? I love you guys.
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thedudenj
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Re: mescaline failur [Re: clemens]
#7718718 - 12/05/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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do two things with it A. throw some in the brew and B. smoke it while coming up or in the midst of it all. and drink water in the midst for some reason water makes you trip really hard while drinking it i suggest a camelbak
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