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Invisiblethedefone
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Pan tek Q's
    #7706928 - 12/02/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Getting ready to attempt Waylitjim's pan tek, and I am curious to know if anyone here has tried it and been successful. If you have a relatively simple pan tek with which you have enjoyed success, I am open to suggestions..

I am also curious about what people mean exactly when they say "wet feet, dry heads." Is that supposed to mean that when you're fruiting them avoid misting all together, which I believe to be true regardless; or does it mean that the casing must remain saturated and the RH should be lowered? Will it be possible to fruit these pans in the same FC as cubes?

Just curious.


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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: thedefone]
    #7707462 - 12/02/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This worked awesome for me...
I colonize spores on rye and spawn on poo
I use pasteurized horse poo..
I have a large rubbermaid container with lid...
I made holes with filters for co2 exchange.
Cut a hole in the top for light for later on...

Here's the tek... It's so much simpler than cubensis...
The term wet feet dry heads is this...
You spawn to poo as you normally would... You do not need any more than 2" in depth of substrate... Don't go over 2"
I just spawn mine straight in the bottom of the container.... Cover with the lid and incubate like you would cubensis... The myc is much finer and will most likely not colonize to a snow white mass.. It will be more like cobweb.. but you can tell it's myc.
Once the substrate is colonized... Case with whatever casing you like... anywhere from 1/2" to 1/4" in depth and incubate till you see the white hairs...
Then give it light... Give it minimal air exchange, mist only if you see the casing drying out otherwise, just leave it.
Once you see it start to pin up.... Flush it with air... I even open my rubbermaid a little to let more air out...
There you have it... Yer done.
Do not try and fruit like a cube, they need to be dried out...
After the first flush.. mist and cover and give minimal air exchange again...


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Invisiblethedefone
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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: Nwerd]
    #7707747 - 12/02/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Straight Hpoo? No coir, or straw, or verm, or anything?
Also, what do you think about a Monotub rigged up with a fish pump to help air it out. Are you leaving the lid cracked to provide FAE, or to lower RH or what?


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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: thedefone]
    #7708054 - 12/02/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just poo... You can use compost, but I haven't tried it or needed to yet. You wanna case with peat and verm or coir and verm, but it pans like poo and that's all there is to it. Spawn on Poo/compost, case with 50/50 mix
Monotub will work. Don't use more than 2" sub though and don't use anything to provide humidity but the humidity they themselves create and a light misting when needed... I don't even have perlite and water... This tub is just sitting in my room with a filtered fish pump pumping clean air in when I'm not fanning it.
You leave the lid slightly ajar for both FAE and evaporation (drying)


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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: Nwerd]
    #7708103 - 12/02/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Word. If I go this route I think I'll give the fish pump a go as well.


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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: thedefone]
    #7708192 - 12/02/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Fruiting parameters are similar to cubes except that they prefer a thinner substrate and slightly higher fruiting temps. Copes do best at about 80F, with high humidity and lots of air exchange.

The primordia and pins are more delicate, so use care when misting or lay wax paper over them to cut down on the amount of misting required. The growing pins will push the wax paper out of the way as they grow.
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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7708368 - 12/02/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I have read that thicker substrates tend to lead to increased failure. I am also curious about casing these things. I have read that thinner casings may be the way to go, and also that the colonization of them may take longer. I have never pH adjusted my casings before. Is now the time to start?

Is straight Hpoo is the way to go? Ralphster is using straight poo, but, That Waylitjim tek uses 5/5/1 - hpoo/verm/BRF. Others use similar recipes. Is it especially important to ensure an airy sub? I have read a few of these teks and I am just curious what has worked for others..

Thanks for the tip on the wax paper.


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Edited by thedefone (12/03/07 01:05 PM)


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Re: Pan tek Q's [Re: thedefone]
    #7710915 - 12/03/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone?


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