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Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss
#7706045 - 12/02/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here it is, what sets this tool head and shoulders below (can I say that? Maybe feet and ankles) other socialist scum in the Democrat Party. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/edwards-garnish.html
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Like Clinton (and unlike Obama), Edwards' health-care plan would require every American to have health insurance.
But unlike Clinton, Edwards is now detailing how he would enforce his mandate.
Under the Edwards plan, when Americans file their income taxes, they would be required to submit a letter from an insurance provider confirming coverage for themselves and their dependents.
If someone did not submit proof of coverage, the Internal Revenue Service would notify a newly established regional or state-based health-care agency (which Edwards has dubbed a Health Care Market). .......... The newly covered individual would not only have access to health benefits but would also be responsible for making monthly payments with the help of a tax credit.
The exact size of the financial obligation would vary according to a person's income (lower-income Americans would receive larger tax credits).
If a person did not meet his or her monthly financial obligation for a set period of time (perhaps a year, perhaps longer) the Edwards plan would empower the federal government to garnish an individual's wages for purposes of collecting "back premiums with interest and collection costs."
I'm sure the socialists have no problem with this but humans should be chilled to the bone that someone who draws any support would have the nerve to propose this. This is the same punk who uses junk science and retarded juries to extract false malpractice awards.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7706085 - 12/02/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Edwards sucks.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7706201 - 12/02/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wake up democrats!!!! There will be no such thing as "free" health care with any of their plans.
Wake up and smell the rotting petunias here. All 3 front running Dems take lobby money from the health care industry. Their plan is to forcefully funnel your pay checks over to them.
This crook with a 30,000 sq foot home, and $400 hair cuts, has no clue how he would further hurt the struggling by forcing them to pay for insurance when they can barely make rent and put food on the table.
If they could afford it, they would have it already. Whatever tax deduction you would get, will be lost in rising gas costs and rising inflation.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#7706214 - 12/02/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The poor are already covered. Also this:
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Those regional agencies would then evaluate whether the uninsured individual was eligible for Medicare (which covers those over 65), Medicaid (which covers the indigent), or S-CHIP (the State Children's Health Insurance Program which targets the working poor).
But nobody would be allowed to just say no. They'll stick you in any program they want, with ONLY the doctors in it allowed, and send you the bill. Ve know vut is gut for you und ve vill make you take it. What a scumbag.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7706236 - 12/02/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't say "poor". I said the "struggling"-those who do not qualify for forms of welfare, yet can not afford a $1,200 root canal, nor afford, another dime taken out of their paychecks, to get insurance for it either.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#7706258 - 12/02/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Root canals are $1,200? Besides, that's dental. More than 80% have medical insurance. I wonder what the percentage is for dental. Oh great, another thing for these pricks to get their probing probosci into.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7706394 - 12/02/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Previous fascism from the good lawyer:
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TIPTON, Iowa (AP) - Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards said on Sunday that his universal health care proposal would require that Americans go to the doctor for preventive care.
"It requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care," he told a crowd sitting in lawn chairs in front of the Cedar County Courthouse. "If you are going to be in the system, you can't choose not to go to the doctor for 20 years. You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RDHQE80&show_article=1
I may actually NOT have gone to a doctor for 20 years. No, strike that, I went once between early twenties and mid forties, for Lyme disease. And I HAD insurance almost the whole time.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7706434 - 12/02/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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anyone with a universal health care initiative also, implicitly, has some sort of enforcement and penalty mechanism. it seems that, unlike the rest of the candidates, Edwards has failed to avoid discussing the details publicly.
all in all, I think it's good that they have to explain what it actually means openly without glossing over it with pictures of sick babies and geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep more soundly at night.
when the rubber meets the road there's going to be a lot of disgruntled people out there when they realize they got the short end of a shell game.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: afoaf]
#7706593 - 12/02/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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afoaf said:
geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep more soundly at night.
Blow me.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7707399 - 12/02/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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afoaf said:
geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep more soundly at night.
Blow me.
Will you be needing some Viagra with that old man?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#7707777 - 12/02/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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"While raising the specter of wage garnishment could expose Edwards to the criticism that he favors a bigger, more intrusive government....
ya think????
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#7707831 - 12/02/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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gettinjiggywithit said:
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zappaisgod said:
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afoaf said:
geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep more soundly at night.
Blow me.
Will you be needing some Viagra with that old man?
None that you need to bring with that tight pre-moistened dumper and mobile mouth of yours, you savage rascal.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7708134 - 12/02/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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dry smash his shitbox
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: afoaf]
#7708482 - 12/02/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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First New Jersey tells me I CAN'T PUMP my own gas.
Now we're going to have Democrats tell us we HAVE to have health insurance?
What's next? The democrats are going to tell us exactly how many pieces of toilet paper we're required to use when wiping our asses?
I used to like Edwards. He can suck my left nut now. It sounds like the democrats are starting a contest to see who can out-crazy themselves.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: BrAiN]
#7708504 - 12/02/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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When most people say they want universal health care, I don't think this is what they mean.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: Silversoul]
#7708533 - 12/02/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't understand how FORCING people to buy stuff is a solution to our country's health problem, the problem being that people can't AFFORD IT?
Actually.. now that you mention it zappa, you have to admit it's so simple that it's genious. The easiest way to make people buy something who can't afford it.. is make it a LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE IT! YES!!!! That way if they're too poor to afford it they'll get fined assloads of money, what they don't have in the first place!
The true American way! FUDGE THE NUMBERS TO MAKE OURSELVES LOOK GOOD SO THE REST OF THE WORLD STOPS COMPLAINING ABOUT US!
* Too poor to afford health insurance? We'll make you buy it or else we'll make you miss a mortgage payment! Yay! Look at the USA, we're all insured now!
* Our children's education is getting worse? 50% less kids are passing? Well shit! Lower the test standards! Wooo! No child left behind!
* We have too many murders in Baltimore? Baltmore looks bad eh? Tell the prosecutors to make half of em just manslaughter! Woooo! Look at Baltimore! We reduced the murder problem by 50%!
What ever happened the good ol' democrat ideas of just taxing the fuck out of the rich to pay for the poor? The democrats are slipping closer and closer to communism than ever before.
I used to think after a nutjob like Bush, there was no way a Democrat would lose in 08 no matter what republican neanderthal the GOP put forth. I'm starting to think the republicans could nominate a CHIMPANZEE and STILL pull it off in 08 now.
If someone's too poor to buy a flatscreen TV then how is FORCING someone to buy it going to help him buy it other than knowing he has to get it so he has to chose now whether to cut money out of his budget for feeding his own children or buying gas for his car.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7708550 - 12/02/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank God Edwards has no chance of winning.
If he magically pulls it off next November though, I'm going to go back to drinking Jack Daniels heavily and smoking cigarettes like I used to.
I figure if I cause myself enough health problems, I'll be a drain on the health care system enough for the insurance companies to complain to Edwards.
Then I'll be .. sorry, you stuck WITH ME NOW MUTHAFUCKA!!!!! Edwards says ya can't DROP ME!! MUAHAHAH! Take it up with him!
Then they'll double my rates.. then I'll double my drinking and smoking. Then they'll triple my rates.. then I'll start drinking Jersey tap water just to spite them.
Then John Edwards will somehow make cigarettes and whiskey illegal.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7708576 - 12/02/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.
America is a joke.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708591 - 12/02/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.
Show me a single country that has "free"(ie not payed for) health care.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708613 - 12/02/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.
America is a joke.
Does Ass Flavor Pie Country have free health care?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: Silversoul]
#7708621 - 12/02/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try the one I live in. I can go to hospital for whatever treatment and it wont cost me a cent. LOL @ you.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708622 - 12/02/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: America is a joke.
Yet you probably live there, you poor oppressed American. Did Cuba reject your application for citizenship?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708625 - 12/02/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: Try the one I live in. I can go to hospital for whatever treatment and it wont cost me a cent. LOL @ you.
I assumed you lived in the U.S.
Where do you live?
And how much to they tax your paycheck?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708626 - 12/02/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: Try the one I live in. I can go to hospital for whatever treatment and it wont cost me a cent. LOL @ you.
So you're telling me you don't pay taxes which go toward your medical treatment?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: Silversoul]
#7708773 - 12/02/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everyone pays taxes, some people (me) just get a lot more in return than others (you).
LOL.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708792 - 12/02/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can't argue with that.. the socialized system sure works if you're a bum
Are you in Europe?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7708808 - 12/02/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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as dreamy as Edwards is voting for him instead of ron paul is just being silly.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: BrAiN]
#7708822 - 12/02/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's funny that you equate public health care with socialism when in fact it's a basic human right.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708858 - 12/02/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In a perfect world, I'd like everyone to be covered, but the opposition has a point:
Why shoud I work my butt off to pay for someone that refuses to get a job? Why should a bum that refuses to contribute anything to HUMANITY have a HUMAN right to health care? I mean, if you don't give a shit about other people, why should it be a human right for you? What makes it a HUMAN right? Isn't it also a human right not to be forced to give a shit about someone else?
And itn't IS socialism? According to the definition of socialism, a universal health care system fits right into that definition. The only grey area is that some definitions assume that a socialist program is run by the state. Again.. not that I think that's a bad thing.. or that it would even have to be run by the government. Health care companies can still be private and the only way the gov't gets involved is to do the taxing and distribution.
I'd be 100% for a total American universal health care system where EVERYONE was covered like in Europe if you cut some of the other welfare programs to cover it. 40% of me agrees with universal health care for humane reasons, 60% of me thinks it would be a good business move (reducing pre-existing conditions).
Or maybe have those who can't afford it have the gov't pay for it if they do community service or something.
I always think community service is an untapped resource that can be used for leverage in a lot of hot button issues like immigration and welfare. I can think of a lot of public services that people can give their time to (trash pickup, volunteer firefighting, teaching) which people could use to earn their keep.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7708885 - 12/02/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: Everyone pays taxes...
Not me! Not federal taxes at least. Im what the govt considers 'in poverty'...
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: DieCommie]
#7708954 - 12/02/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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look at it this way, why should decent people who have jobs and a family who get prostate cancer or breast cancer. should they have to pay a ton of money out of pocket for treatment to that will save their lives or should they have to settle for old less effective treatments or what if it happened to you or someone you know?
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7709140 - 12/02/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: Everyone pays taxes, some people (me) just get a lot more in return than others (you).
LOL.
So then, your is health care is in fact NOT free. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7709149 - 12/02/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: It's funny that you equate public health care with socialism when in fact it's a basic human right.
I have NEVER, understood what this comment is based on.
What if everyone interested in medicine stopped going to medical school, and current doctors, surgeons, specialists just said, " Fuck it. People expect me to pay a fortune for the schooling and bust ass to learn all of this and develop skills just to take care of them for NOTHING? They think they have a right to me? I quit"
What gives Anyone, the right to demand FREE services from another?
What gives a government a right to demand people practice medicine to take care of it's citizens for them?
What makes people with nothing to barter, material goods "money" labor, think they have a right, to get something in exchange for nothing?
Does planet earth come with a rule book for humans that says so?
If so, who wrote it and who enforces it?
On a side note, here's another IMPRESSIVE plug for Ron Paul. During his years of practice as an OBGYN, if a patient could only make payments with Medicare, he refused the payment and took care of them for FREE.
He does not believe it would have been right of him, to take money that was stolen from people through "income taxing" to pay for the health care of someone else.
He believes that people should take care of themselves if able too and voluntarily help to take care of those unable to, through charity.
Life should never require a forceful take from one to give to another.
That is slavery and or theft at the end of the day. Who wants to be enslaved to another or stolen from???
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
#7709606 - 12/03/07 03:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FecalDildo said: It's funny that you equate public health care with socialism when in fact it's a basic human right.
No it isn't.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
#7709609 - 12/03/07 03:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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gettinjiggywithit said: What gives a government a right to demand people practice medicine to take care of it's citizens for them?
Well, most governments take the right, but, in America, it is unconstitutional for the government to do so. The federal government requiring that all citizens have health insurance is not within the authority of the federal government. Our government doesn't recognize socialized health care as a basic human right, with good reason.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: fireworks_god]
#7711273 - 12/03/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not quite sure Shit Dick is employable so I rather doubt he pays taxes, he just wants a handout. And BrAiN, you can forget that drinking and smoking shit. Once you're forced to go to the doc he'll be forced to snitch on your naughty behavior and you will have your peepee severely whacked. With a balpeen hammer. By gangs of women who all look like Hillary. That's right, bull dykes.
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I'm not quite sure Shit Dick is employable so I rather doubt he pays taxes, he just wants a handout. And BrAiN, you can forget that drinking and smoking shit. Once you're forced to go to the doc he'll be forced to snitch on your naughty behavior and you will have your peepee severely whacked. With a balpeen hammer. By gangs of women who all look like Hillary. That's right, bull dykes.
I'll make sure to catch as many STD's as I can then
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johnm214



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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
#7713493 - 12/03/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I'm not quite sure Shit Dick is employable so I rather doubt he pays taxes, he just wants a handout.
lol
But seriously, why the fuck do we need the feds to mandate healthcare? Why can't the states that want it implement it? Many states are larger in population that similar european countries w/ socialized medicine...
Why must DC be the source of this? I think people are complacent and want the great fed to save them... creates apathy in the state system of the same sort that socialized medicine creates in treatment providers when confronted with someone that doesn't have the arbitrary criteria for government treatment.
Give the money to the people and let charity work. If socialized medicine is mandated at least let people opt to give their share of taxes to the healthcare charity they choose.
Medicare is plenty for most things, and charity can fill in the rest. many counties already pay for drug addiction, std, and other services that fall through the cracks
The state is far more able to handle this situation... and when the buisnesses leave that state for another with lower taxes and overhead for inefficient government insurance programs for bums... well maybe those states will realize their being shortsighted and greedy.
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Seuss
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: johnm214]
#7713954 - 12/04/07 03:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> But seriously, why the fuck do we need the feds to mandate healthcare?
Because your moral values are broken and you need somebody like me, somebody that stands next to Jesus in holy divinity, to run your life for you. And once I finish with you, I am going to spread my moral values, like it or not, to the rest of the world. You will bow down to me, lick my feet, and worship the ground that I walk upon. You will... oh wait... ignore that last little bit, I didn't really mean it... yet.
Seriously, the real reason... the government used to protect the rights of the people to live as they like. This has been replaced. It is now the job of the government to protect the profits of companies. This often occurs at the expense of the people. The government does a bait and switch claiming that what is good for the profits of the companies is good for the people. (By government, I mean voted officials: president and congress.)
If the government returned rights to the states, the companies that thrive under the current system would no longer have a protected playing field.
-------------------- Just another spore in the wind.
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