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Offlinezappaisgod
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Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss
    #7706045 - 12/02/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Here it is, what sets this tool head and shoulders below (can I say that? Maybe feet and ankles) other socialist scum in the Democrat Party.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/edwards-garnish.html

Quote:

Like Clinton (and unlike Obama), Edwards' health-care plan would require every American to have health insurance.

But unlike Clinton, Edwards is now detailing how he would enforce his mandate.

Under the Edwards plan, when Americans file their income taxes, they would be required to submit a letter from an insurance provider confirming coverage for themselves and their dependents.

If someone did not submit proof of coverage, the Internal Revenue Service would notify a newly established regional or state-based health-care agency (which Edwards has dubbed a Health Care Market).
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The newly covered individual would not only have access to health benefits but would also be responsible for making monthly payments with the help of a tax credit.

The exact size of the financial obligation would vary according to a person's income (lower-income Americans would receive larger tax credits).

If a person did not meet his or her monthly financial obligation for a set period of time (perhaps a year, perhaps longer) the Edwards plan would empower the federal government to garnish an individual's wages for purposes of collecting "back premiums with interest and collection costs."




I'm sure the socialists have no problem with this but humans should be chilled to the bone that someone who draws any support would have the nerve to propose this. This is the same punk who uses junk science and retarded juries to extract false malpractice awards.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7706085 - 12/02/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Edwards sucks. :thumbdown:


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7706201 - 12/02/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wake up democrats!!!! There will be no such thing as "free" health care with any of their plans.

Wake up and smell the rotting petunias here. All 3 front running Dems take lobby money from the health care industry. Their plan is to forcefully funnel your pay checks over to them.


This crook with a 30,000 sq foot home, and $400 hair cuts, has no clue how he would further hurt the struggling by forcing them to pay for insurance when they can barely make rent and put food on the table.

If they could afford it, they would have it already. Whatever tax deduction you would get, will be lost in rising gas costs and rising inflation.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7706214 - 12/02/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The poor are already covered. Also this:
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Those regional agencies would then evaluate whether the uninsured individual was eligible for Medicare (which covers those over 65), Medicaid (which covers the indigent), or S-CHIP (the State Children's Health Insurance Program which targets the working poor).




But nobody would be allowed to just say no. They'll stick you in any program they want, with ONLY the doctors in it allowed, and send you the bill. Ve know vut is gut for you und ve vill make you take it. What a scumbag.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7706236 - 12/02/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't say "poor". I said the "struggling"-those who do not qualify for forms of welfare, yet can not afford a $1,200 root canal, nor afford, another dime taken out of their paychecks, to get insurance for it either.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7706258 - 12/02/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Root canals are $1,200? Besides, that's dental. More than 80% have medical insurance. I wonder what the percentage is for dental. Oh great, another thing for these pricks to get their probing probosci into.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7706394 - 12/02/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Previous fascism from the good lawyer:

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TIPTON, Iowa (AP) - Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards said on Sunday that his universal health care proposal would require that Americans go to the doctor for preventive care.

"It requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care," he told a crowd sitting in lawn chairs in front of the Cedar County Courthouse. "If you are going to be in the system, you can't choose not to go to the doctor for 20 years. You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK."



http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RDHQE80&show_article=1

I may actually NOT have gone to a doctor for 20 years. No, strike that, I went once between early twenties and mid forties, for Lyme disease. And I HAD insurance almost the whole time.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7706434 - 12/02/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

anyone with a universal health care initiative also, implicitly, has some
sort of enforcement and penalty mechanism. it seems that, unlike the rest of
the candidates, Edwards has failed to avoid discussing the details publicly.

all in all, I think it's good that they have to explain what it actually
means openly without glossing over it with pictures of sick babies and
geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep
more soundly at night.

when the rubber meets the road there's going to be a lot of disgruntled
people out there when they realize they got the short end of a shell game.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: afoaf]
    #7706593 - 12/02/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:


geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep
more soundly at night.




Blow me.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7707399 - 12/02/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

afoaf said:


geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep
more soundly at night.




Blow me.




Will you be needing some Viagra with that old man? :smirk:


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7707777 - 12/02/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

"While raising the specter of wage garnishment could expose Edwards to the criticism that he favors a bigger, more intrusive government....


ya think????:rofl2:


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7707831 - 12/02/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Quote:

afoaf said:


geriatrics like zappa getting the attention they all need so we can sleep
more soundly at night.




Blow me.




Will you be needing some Viagra with that old man? :smirk:




None that you need to bring with that tight pre-moistened dumper and mobile mouth of yours, you savage rascal.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7708134 - 12/02/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

dry smash his shitbox


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: afoaf]
    #7708482 - 12/02/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

First New Jersey tells me I CAN'T PUMP my own gas.

Now we're going to have Democrats tell us we HAVE to have health insurance?

What's next? The democrats are going to tell us exactly how many pieces of toilet paper we're required to use when wiping our asses?

I used to like Edwards. He can suck my left nut now. It sounds like the democrats are starting a contest to see who can out-crazy themselves.

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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: BrAiN]
    #7708504 - 12/02/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When most people say they want universal health care, I don't think this is what they mean.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: Silversoul]
    #7708533 - 12/02/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't understand how FORCING people to buy stuff is a solution to our country's health problem, the problem being that people can't AFFORD IT?

Actually.. now that you mention it zappa, you have to admit it's so simple that it's genious. The easiest way to make people buy something who can't afford it.. is make it a LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE IT! YES!!!! That way if they're too poor to afford it they'll get fined assloads of money, what they don't have in the first place!

The true American way! FUDGE THE NUMBERS TO MAKE OURSELVES LOOK GOOD SO THE REST OF THE WORLD STOPS COMPLAINING ABOUT US!

* Too poor to afford health insurance? We'll make you buy it or else we'll make you miss a mortgage payment! Yay! Look at the USA, we're all insured now!

* Our children's education is getting worse? 50% less kids are passing? Well shit! Lower the test standards! Wooo! No child left behind!

* We have too many murders in Baltimore? Baltmore looks bad eh? Tell the prosecutors to make half of em just manslaughter! Woooo! Look at Baltimore! We reduced the murder problem by 50%!

What ever happened the good ol' democrat ideas of just taxing the fuck out of the rich to pay for the poor? The democrats are slipping closer and closer to communism than ever before.

I used to think after a nutjob like Bush, there was no way a Democrat would lose in 08 no matter what republican neanderthal the GOP put forth. I'm starting to think the republicans could nominate a CHIMPANZEE and STILL pull it off in 08 now.


If someone's too poor to buy a flatscreen TV then how is FORCING someone to buy it going to help him buy it other than knowing he has to get it so he has to chose now whether to cut money out of his budget for feeding his own children or buying gas for his car.

Edited by BrAiN (12/02/07 09:33 PM)

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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7708550 - 12/02/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thank God Edwards has no chance of winning.

If he magically pulls it off next November though, I'm going to go back to drinking Jack Daniels heavily and smoking cigarettes like I used to.

I figure if I cause myself enough health problems, I'll be a drain on the health care system enough for the insurance companies to complain to Edwards.

Then I'll be .. sorry, you stuck WITH ME NOW MUTHAFUCKA!!!!! Edwards says ya can't DROP ME!! MUAHAHAH! Take it up with him!

Then they'll double my rates.. then I'll double my drinking and smoking. Then they'll triple my rates.. then I'll start drinking Jersey tap water just to spite them.

Then John Edwards will somehow make cigarettes and whiskey illegal.

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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7708576 - 12/02/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.

America is a joke.

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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7708591 - 12/02/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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FecalDildo said:
I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.



Show me a single country that has "free"(ie not payed for) health care.


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Re: Edwards' health plan skips slippery slope, starts in the abyss [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7708613 - 12/02/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

FecalDildo said:
I find it hilarious that the country that thinks it's the best in the world cant even manage to provide free public health care.

America is a joke.




Does Ass Flavor Pie Country have free health care?

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