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thought i had beat that monster, and while actively deppressed have not considered suicide since the bad old days of my hellish youth. Well lately its coming into my head on an almost daily basis. More, and more i'm seeing it as a real possibility. I don't want people to remember me this way.
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Find a friend to talk to, go to a psychologist. Just do SOMETHING to get those feelings off your chest and feel better. It's totally not worth going through with it.
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Stay sober, you do not anything to cloud your judgement.
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All my close friends are gone. I try to tell my "other" friends all about my problems, but there really isn't enough of a connection there for them to be good listeners. Its just kind of akward for them. I'v been fucked over by psychiatrists, ans psychologists so many times in the past, it is hard to trust them. I think i'll try to find someone anyways. I can't keep all this stuff to myself much longer.
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Anonymous said: thought i had beat that monster, and while actively deppressed have not considered suicide since the bad old days of my hellish youth. Well lately its coming into my head on an almost daily basis. More, and more i'm seeing it as a real possibility. I don't want people to remember me this way.
I wouldn't worry about how people remember you. They won't for long when you're gone.
My personal belief and experience is that suicide crops up when we aren't living authentically.
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What does that mean, living authentically?
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GGreatOne234
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Suicidal behavior interests me for some reason. Maybe because Ive been there before and can relate. Cant say I could ever figure out why suicidal thoughts happen, its a mystery to me.
Sure you're miserable now, but even though you dont realize it, you are on your way to a better place in the future if you continue living life. Because, your mindset really doesnt get any lower than wanting/thinking about killing yourself. Unless your like jeffery daumer eating peoples eyeballs and testicles for breakfast but I guess that is a little off topic:)
Who knows how long you will feel the way you do, be it a month, or a couple years, somewhere along that road something good will happen to you it always does. So think of yourself on a path to experienceing better things in the future.
Being down in the dumps is something everybody experiences. And those feelings you experience/think/feel will actually teach you how to enjoy/appreciate life even more once life turns around for you for the better.
Good luck, and dont be an emo fag and kill yourself, that would suck.
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Suicide is not the answer.. live your life one day at a time and never look back, you need to find something that makes you happy.
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Anonymous said: thought i had beat that monster, and while actively deppressed have not considered suicide since the bad old days of my hellish youth. Well lately its coming into my head on an almost daily basis. More, and more i'm seeing it as a real possibility. I don't want people to remember me this way.
are you taking any SSRIs?
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Re: suicide [Re: MOTH]
#7707255 - 12/02/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MOTH said: What does that mean, living authentically?
being true to our principles. trusting ourselves moment to moment.
being able to say "Yes" with totality.
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i'm not taking any ssri's. They hurt me mentally as a child. I guess i'm feeling better. Haven't thought seriously about it for a few days. I think i will always suffer from depression, but i hope i can survive it, and have some good experiences in this life anyway.
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Maybe you need to find a spiritual path (now, spiritual doesn't mean religion). Some people find it harder to find happiness when their lives are focused on materiality.
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^^ Sound advice 
Or consult the wisdom of ayahuasca, under a practicing shaman of course. Not the most available option, but still something worth pursuing if one feels the need to be reborn.
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Re: suicide [Re: MOTH]
#7714775 - 12/04/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MOTH said: What does that mean, living authentically?
Doing what you want instead of what you should.
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that might roll off the tongue well, but you should be more careful giving that advice to someone suicidal...
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Re: suicide [Re: MOTH]
#7728382 - 12/07/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MOTH said: What does that mean, living authentically?
Living life how one wants to live it.
However, this is not to say that one can live life totally devoid of all responsibility. Then one would just be some sort of leech.
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you might need to have a nervous break down thats over before it started. id find a corner and count to ninfinity, write, and then find someone for a hug. know enjoy, please
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Don't tell me what I should do. Take care of your own business.
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Icelander said: Don't tell me what I should do. Take care of your own business.
wtf? is this directed at me? ok man ill go right about taking care of my own business...
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wtf it sure is. Don't you remember what you post?
that might roll off the tongue well, but you should be more careful giving that advice to someone suicidal...
I'm not telling you what advice to give here. Now you "should" be more careful about remembering what you post
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anonymous do you need other people to people help you feel good about yourself?
Do you feel good about yourself on your own?
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Icelander said: wtf it sure is. Don't you remember what you post?
that might roll off the tongue well, but you should be more careful giving that advice to someone suicidal...
I'm not telling you what advice to give here. Now you "should" be more careful about remembering what you post
ya i remember what i posted thats y i figured you directed your post to me, sorry i really didnt mean to shoot down your advice... i thought it was funny to tell someone suicidal to do what they want, since what they want is to kill themself- just tryin to point that out.
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That reply wasn't in response to his desire to kill himself. 
Yet, it still applies. If someone really wants to off themselves who are we to stand in their way? Next you will be wanting to control how we decide to live.
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If you are suicidal you are at the very low. Life can only get better from that point on...so hang in there and it WILL get better. Death is not something one should be afraid of...but its suppose to be a natural thing. There is nothing natural about suicide at all.
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Re: suicide [Re: moses]
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Life can only get better from that point on...so hang in there and it WILL get better.
This statement is based on nothing but wishful thinking and fear of death IMO. Someone who is suffering physically or mentally has no assurance that things WILL get any better. They may and they may not.
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Re: suicide [Re: moses]
#7733885 - 12/08/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you are suicidal you are at the very low.
Bullshit. That's a victim attitude. If you were really at "the very low" you wouldn't have the extra time and luxury to be thinking about various ways you might off yourself. You would be engaged in a struggle that could kill you before you had the chance.
Suicide ideation is a flailing act of an over-inflated ego of a person who is probably feeling unloved. Examine why it is you feel unloved. What attitudes about yourself, others and the world perpetuate this? Honestly, if someone wants to throw the immeasurably precious gift of life away then I have not one trace of sorrow for them. If you really think your life is that bad, start recounting all the things you have to be grateful for. You can start with your health. Can you walk on your own two feet? If the answer is yes, I laugh at your self-pity.
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Icelander said: Yet, it still applies. If someone really wants to off themselves who are we to stand in their way? Next you will be wanting to control how we decide to live.
haha so i wonder how you feel about the fact that in America you do not have the right to kill youself (Suicide really is a crime)
i wonder what it costs to keep a dead man in prison?
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mickdawg666 said: anonymous do you need other people to people help you feel good about yourself?
Do you feel good about yourself on your own?
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Re: suicide [Re: Viveka]
#7734292 - 12/08/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you are suicidal you are at the very low.
Bullshit. That's a victim attitude. If you were really at "the very low" you wouldn't have the extra time and luxury to be thinking about various ways you might off yourself. You would be engaged in a struggle that could kill you before you had the chance.
Suicide ideation is a flailing act of an over-inflated ego of a person who is probably feeling unloved. Examine why it is you feel unloved. What attitudes about yourself, others and the world perpetuate this? Honestly, if someone wants to throw the immeasurably precious gift of life away then I have not one trace of sorrow for them. If you really think your life is that bad, start recounting all the things you have to be grateful for. You can start with your health. Can you walk on your own two feet? If the answer is yes, I laugh at your self-pity.
attitudes like this can be very hurtful in this state of mind. Mabey there is some truth in it, but it seems so insensitive to say you don't have any sympathy for someone like myself that is hurting this bad. I specificly made these posts anonomously because i don't want anyone to think i'm being an attention whore, or to lose respect for me. It would be great to be able to talk to my friends about this stuff. To say "hey i'm hurting bad. I'm considering suicide" But i don't have a lot of friends. And some of my closest friends have expressed the same sentements as you. That anyone who wants to kill themselves should just do it, and not go bothering other people with they'r selfish desire to end the pain. I'm sorry if its selfish. I DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYBODY. I feel like continuing to stay alive in this state of misery is dragging down everyone around me, more than it would to lose me.
I'v felt this way for the past 11 years. Sometimes moreso than others, but that overall, the depression is to much to handle. I always say, life is shit 90% of the time, but i live for the shining moments. But at times like this, i question weather its worth it to be deppressed all the time. My father suffers from depression, and has attempted suicide many times. The things i know about his father are that he lived a horrible misserable life. Today has been especially hard. Thank you to those with advice, and kind words.
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You have to do the work. I never said I think you should kill yourself. I said life - awareness - is such an unfathomable blessing that if you want to throw it away, I won't feel sorry for you. No I don't have "sympathy" for your position. I don't have "sympathy" for any one or any thing. Sympathy is an ugly thing. I do think empathy is a valuable thing and should be cultivated, but I do not empathize with someone who wants to throw their life away. How can you empathize with a will toward nothingness?
What are the mental programs you are running that are keeping you in this state of mind? Or are you in such decrepit health that to simply breathe is agony? I'm guessing the latter is not the case...so why have you felt this way the past 11 years?
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Re: suicide [Re: Viveka]
#7735253 - 12/09/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anonomous,
Suicidal behaviour fascinates me.
I've had suicidal thoughts before man, I got locked up twice for it (two 72hour stints in a 2 week peroid). So I've been there, and met people in there that are 1000X's more fucked up than me or you.
I can't find the answer for you, you literally need to find it yourself, no joke.
Just remember how beautiful life can be for other people, and strive towards it and you will find yourself eventually.
Check this shit out: Beautiful shit: From the rooftops of the Apple Studios in England, A free concert, people on the streets wondering what the hell was going on.. wonderful things happen in this world constantly and you are part of it:
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Watch this shit man, life is beautiful, you just need to find it:
Watch/listen/learn to these beatles clips:
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They're having the times of their lives!!!
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GGreatOne234
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There is a beautiful world out there for you to find, you've just got to poke around:
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Bask in your suidicial emotions and soak it up so much until you will eventually realize that life is amazing - hard for you see now, but it's there bro, just keep on truckin until you find it.
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I'm not asking you to be Ringo Starr or John Lennon, just fucking realize that life is an amazing treat sometimes, forget about all the shittiness that life gives to you and just live for the good stuff - you'll find it eventually, because, right now you are in a cespool of shit that seems unimaginable to get out of, but you will eventually one day again find yourself in a place you're happy with. Trust me, i've been there and came back to see it.
I'm drunk on beer again for the first time in a while, so, take a drunken mans advice and just keep on livin, you've got nothing to lose.
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man, just because you get depressed and maybe you have been told that you will never get better, let me tell you that is all bullshit. now i personally think that everyone is different and everyones own solution is different so you've gotta find you're own path man. but what i can tell you, being a survivor of the suicides of my own mother a week after my 18th birthday, my grandfather, 2 aunts, 4 uncles, and 2 cousins and one really good friend, its just not the way man there is hope, always. i used to get depressed all the time, time and time again it comes back around a little bit but one of the things you have to ultimately realize is.... its human to feel sad. it doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you. i am not at all saying that anti-depressants don't work or that i am against them, that just wasn't my path and maybe it isn't yours either, especially if you don't trust shrinks (like me). I honestly cant say any specific way that i dealt with my depression or my suicidal thoughts but one thing that always did help me was whenever i started feeling that extreme about things, i would change all my surroundings. I would hang out with different friends, changed my job a couple times, even took multiple pay cuts, sometimes i would re-arrange all the stuff in my house (furniture an whatnot), i moved twice, changed my clothing style a couple times, i even found myself a girl, i took all those thoughts of not giving a fuck about my life and turned it into pure sometimes overly ballsy confidence, because i didn't care. At first it just made me feel better to make people laugh with my antics, then i learned that it was funnier and better for me to make myself laugh first, Ive sworn by that and over-confidence ever since. I just had to keep at that shit until i found everything that i liked and next to nothing left in my life that i didn't like or something i was just doing (or being) because of what someone else thought or did, it was very hard at first to leave it all behind just to please myself, but necessary. Ever since that 2 year period when all those deaths in my family happened i have never looked back with anything but a fond memory of the loved ones that i love and miss so goddamn much. I just wish they all could have known how much they were all loved and valued not just by their family, but by their community and their other loved ones before it was too late. I don't know man, all I'm really trying to say is you've gotta find you're own path and THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS SEEM TO GET.
i hope you understand what i am trying to say here, this being an extremely emotional topic for me, it was very hard for me to express my feelings on the subject into words. hopefully i got my feelings (at least somewhat) across and i hope this was able to at least help someone out a little bit. i just felt like it was fate that i would randomly come across this specific thread while i was thinking about my mother, so i thought i owed it to myself and the shroomery to at least give my opinion and experience whether or not it actually means anything to anyone but me. i will be keeping my eye on this thread. this one really means allot to me. i also want to say that it also means allot to me that we can do this here like this, the shroomery is one hell of a community, lots of good people here, and i am damn proud to be a part of it. thanks shroomery and all shroomerites.
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Icelander said: Yet, it still applies. If someone really wants to off themselves who are we to stand in their way? Next you will be wanting to control how we decide to live.
haha so i wonder how you feel about the fact that in America you do not have the right to kill youself (Suicide really is a crime)
i wonder what it costs to keep a dead man in prison?
You don't need permission to off yourself no matter what the law.
I live in a state with the only assisted suicide law on the books.
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Eventually, everyone here will die. We will all end up going to wherever/through whatever is next. So, why rush?
You think your work is done here? You're sick of being here? Look around, and notice that everyone has that same underlying feelings whether they are aware of them or not [IMO]. It's natural to feel sad; it's okay to be frustrated with life. We are living life preoccupied with whatever is going on materially, in front of our faces. We go through the actions, but we miss the whole point: we miss how things are moving forward and advancing; [it's been said] the universe is constantly expanding. All we see are setbacks, failures, disappointments. So you're working your ass off for what looks like no reason, or what looks like a fall-back. Who wouldn't get frustrated; who wouldn't want it all to end?
It's so easy to see the downside, and not so easy to see the up. Just remember that there is so much love in this universe available to you at all times in all forms. Know that the feelings you are experiencing will pass (only if you let them). And in the wise words of Paul McCartney, "When you find yourself in times of trouble, let it be."
There are so many of us here who want to support you. We can only help if you want us to.
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Eventually, everyone here will die. We will all end up going to wherever/through whatever is next. So, why rush?
Some peoples lives are so physically and or emotionally painful that they are in a rush. I don't blame them and I do support that choice if they choose it. Having said that, I agree with much of what you have to say.
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Icelander said: Yet, it still applies. If someone really wants to off themselves who are we to stand in their way? Next you will be wanting to control how we decide to live.
haha so i wonder how you feel about the fact that in America you do not have the right to kill youself (Suicide really is a crime)
i wonder what it costs to keep a dead man in prison?
You don't need permission to off yourself no matter what the law.
I live in a state with the only assisted suicide law on the books.
i totally agree with you man, you should have the right to do whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want, but you cant, and you never will. maybe its just me, but doesn't this debate seem a little inappropriate for this thread man? i am sure you aren't trying to be in here coming across as a totally insensitive prick, but you are. please bring the personal rights debate elsewhere some of us are actually trying to have a meaningful thread here. please don't make this political. people already kind of know that they can commit suicide and no one can stop them(if that is what they actually really want), thats why we are here in the first place. i know there are tons of skeptics but what if, sometime in the future someone happens across this thread that this would really really help out man maybe it wont even be the reader that it helps , but the reader goes out and is inspired to help someone else in this situation. there is always a chance. trust me man, there isn't a single person in the world that needs to be told that suicide is an "option".
maybe I'm just being defensive because this topic really hits home for me, but i just think this is a really fucked up thread to bring politics into.
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I can't find the answer for you, you literally need to find it yourself, no joke.
Just remember how beautiful life can be for other people, and strive towards it and you will find yourself eventually.
I agree completely, there is a fantastic sun behind those grey clouds, just like your depression is clouding the beauty in your life, if you cannot realize this you are not truly aware right now, you are in auto pilot, your current state is manifesting negativity in everything you percieve. I strongly suggest reading Sacred World by Jeremy Hayward, I have seen it mentioned before on here so I picked it up from the library and I am reading it right now (2nd version), and for me it has helped loads. It does not automatically make you happy, but it wakes you up, shows you the truth, which can really open the doors to goodness in your life. It will give you courage to move on and forgive yourself for whatever it youve done or haven't, a great guide with a good attitude for your life, trust me.
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Re: suicide [Re: Chemy]
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Chemy said: Stay sober, you do not anything to cloud your judgment.
Ironically, I was extremely depressed, angry, confused, seeing psychologists and considering suicide up until I started "clouding my judgment." That's what made me realize there was so much more to everything.
Question to OP: are you taking anti-depressants? sorry if I missed it if you already said it. didn't notice.
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Re: suicide [Re: kotik]
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Ironically, I was extremely depressed, angry, confused, seeing psychologists and considering suicide up until I started "clouding my judgment." That's what made me realize there was so much more to everything.
heh same, shrooms gave me a new vision.
@OP: you say your happiness(not exactly sure of wording used) depends largely on others.
my advice would be, to relax, and watch the movie baraka. possibly contemplate why you depend so much on others. by the sonds of it your close friends are gone and you just don't feel like you are needed by anyone right now. change this, maybe help out at a soup kitchen, a homeless shelter, somewhere that people will be grateful for what you are doing.
personally i look around and see people down or just looking pretty emotionless and i try help them out. sometimes even just giving someone a smile on the street is enough to perk someone up. and it feels good to help people, even if it's just by tiny gestures, it will make you feel better having made some sort of a difference in the world. not being isolated from everyone anymore.
people have the urge to connect, but fear they're going to be shut down. go out and connect without fear, try taking a new approach to old things, and see if you can maybe find a way of looking at the world that is more in sync with the mind.
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Re: suicide [Re: Chemy]
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@chemy: happy birthday first of all, and i think you are getting things confused, your second quote is a quote from kotic, who even addressed the original poster in his post, so i don't think they're the same guy?
unless it is kotic and he's screwing with out minds :O
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Force yourself out of the house and off the computer. Go get some Japanese food. Give yourself an opportunity to be happy.
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Some people seem to think suicide is nothing but a selfish act, but quite the contrary, suicide can be an act of ending a life time of misery. I'm 50 yrs old or will be in 5 days and I have had suicidal thoughts since i was a young child. My parents weren't bad people, didn't beat me nor neglect me, but I was the youngest of 6 kids, 4 now and I was a short, fat kid. Back then I despised being who i was and the strange thing, nothing has really changed in all that time. I've lived a life of utter failures, one after another beginning at a very young age and continuing to this day. Even suicide attempts of mine have been failures and those that weren't failures someone else dragged me back into this world against my will. That's happened 3 times, all 3 on an ER table with the paddles and the whole works. You can say, well, why not not shoot yourself? I would except I don't keep guns when I'm not suicidal and when I am suicidal guns don't seem to be available. I don't have the will to jump from tall buildings and crashing a car? Done that. I'm a former heroin addict so I've tried massive overdoses. The amount I shot would likely kill anyone else. I just took a short nap and ended up awake for 4 days afterward in withdraw. I still don't want to live. it has nothing to do with taking anything from anyone. I'm not a thief. The selfish claim aspect is just a way to attempt to shame someone who is suicidal into staying alive for others, but the sad fact is everyone reading this post is going to die. Should I continue living a life I have hated forever? Should I live much longer than anyone else because it's selfish to do otherwise? Perhaps I should only die when it's convenient for everyone else? If that's the case I don't think anyone of my friends or family is going to notify me "OK, time to go ahead and die..I'm ready to not be sad." Everyone who is suicidal and who ever will be suicidal is well aware others will morn for us. That simply can't be helped because we all die at some point. I could die of a sudden heart attack and the effect would be basically the same. I would be dead and my surviving family members would morn. My family is well aware that I have been suicidal all my life. There is no surprise there. I've been hospitalized repeatedly for multiple suicide attempts and I often wonder just why the hell am i still kicking. Please don't tell me there is a master plan for me because if there is that plan sucks shit! What's the plan? That I live in poverty? That I end up a hopeless drug addicted depressed failure at everything I attempt? God has a plan? Same thing.. his plan is shit too and "he" never shows up for anything. I've both begged for god and cussed the shit head and I'm still here. Shit, I can't even make a deal with Satan to get out of debt and he's supposed to be the one handing out riches for the evil ones. He hasn't even send me a bad check.. Fuck god and the devil horse shit too. Sure, I have skills and I'm an accomplished musician, artist, skilled painter, auto body tech, great cook and even went to college to be a chef. I have a fair knowledge of the English language and can spell most words without much trouble, but I ultimately fail at everything and for almost all my life i have wondered why. Even my family is at a loss to explain it. I'm a father of two grown kids i love very much and they too are fully aware of my many suicide attempts, but they too are helpless to change the outcomes of my many failures and now, at 50 my legs are giving out on me, my teeth have fallen out, I'm going bald, I live in a shed, literally, I have no money and no place else to go and yes, I wish to die. If I could die now I would do it sure as I'm typing this post.
Maybe you think my suicide attempts are for sympathy or a cry for help. That almost sounds reasonable, but that doesn't take into account that very few of my many suicide attempts have ever been known about by anyone. Most are just me, not wanting to live, living in my own quiet world wishing to die, but i always..ALWAYS GODDAMMIT wake up the next day. it's as if my life is Ground Fucking Hog Day!
No, suicide isn't selfish at all. What's selfish is dragging someone back into a miserable life when they have no desire to be here. That's selfish. I know, I've been there, been locked into mental "health" facilities and been abused by those god damned fucking butchers and quacks then tossed back on the street with half a bottle of happy horse shit pills that do nothing but make pharmaceutical companies rich.
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Sure, I have skills and I'm an accomplished musician, artist, skilled painter, auto body tech, great cook and even went to college to be a chef.
Wait, so...which is it? Either you're a failure at everything or you actually did accomplish some worthwhile things??
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Sorry, your post sounds less than genuine....like a story. Come on...shock paddles 3 times? Right. Killing ones self is not brain surgery or rocket science to be sure.
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OK, not a failure at everything, but a failure at enough that I'm sick of failure. I have my up days and down days. Then so don't we all? A good nights sleep and change in circumstances can change everything. Not always, but often enough I survive somehow. As far as the 3 times on the table, yes, it has happened. I don't much give a fuck if you buy it or not. There is little if anything I can do to convince you so i won't try other than what actually happened. First time i swallowed arsenic. I creates cardiac arrest, VERY painful. Second time I swallowed a bottle of sinaquan and was found as i was going out and the third..I was kicked in the face repeatedly with a steel toe boot. I've got the steel plates holding my head together and nearly died Then again with some people, perhaps yourself the only thing that will convince you is my actual death certificate. Sorry, it hasn't been written yet. Don't worry though. I won't be back to tell you or anyone else when that happens and my surviving relatives will not be here to announce it either.. The fact is my circumstances have improved enough that I am able to go day to day, but those who don't understand despair seem to think just dust yourself off and everything is all hunky dorey. Well that's a nice line of happy horse shit.
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Your mood and attitude is merely a decision. Buying into the fact that it can't be helped is creating helplessness. A positive outlook is learned behavior.
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Take responsibility, DO something to improve your life. What are you waiting on, someone else to save you, make you want to live? Be responsible for your own happiness. I love you Hue
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Just remember, if you think you want to kill yourself consider the possibility that you might just wake up born again as the same person, to lead the same life, and kill themselves, eternally. Do you want to be the asshole who took this joke too seriously?
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GI_Luvmoney
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Re: suicide [Re: xFrockx]
#10702946 - 07/19/09 08:47 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try piracetam. You can buy it on Ebay. A pinch in a cup of coffee once a day is the best thing I've ever used for depression. If you start getting too talkative and/or get insomnia, stop taking it for a couple days.
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Re: suicide [Re: Viveka]
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If you are suicidal you are at the very low.
Bullshit. That's a victim attitude. If you were really at "the very low" you wouldn't have the extra time and luxury to be thinking about various ways you might off yourself. You would be engaged in a struggle that could kill you before you had the chance.
Suicide ideation is a flailing act of an over-inflated ego of a person who is probably feeling unloved. Examine why it is you feel unloved. What attitudes about yourself, others and the world perpetuate this? Honestly, if someone wants to throw the immeasurably precious gift of life away then I have not one trace of sorrow for them. If you really think your life is that bad, start recounting all the things you have to be grateful for. You can start with your health. Can you walk on your own two feet? If the answer is yes, I laugh at your self-pity.
Look at the god-damn situation objectively. To you, that makes perfect sense. To him? He's in a state of misery, for no particular reason. You can count all the things that you have to be grateful for, but it doesn't mean shit if you still feel awful, and now on top of that feel even more awful for being 'ungrateful' for what you have. I don't agree with suicide, but whatever the circumstance, the fact of the matter is, this guy is suffering. Doesn't matter why. What if he's got a chemical imbalance of seratonin in his brain?
Anyways.. My best advice is to live one day at a time. You say you need other people's validation to make yourself feel good and that you can't feel validated by yourself. Take up a hobby or something to feel like you have something to offer? Also, try having a positive mindset. All it takes to be happy is to choose to be happy. The path is yours.
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I suffer from depression on a day to day basis. Some days are worse than others, and some yet still feel as if it's so far in the back of my mind.. it doesn't exit.
The fact is.. it DOES exist.. and it is always eating away at me. No matter what I do no matter how happy the situation is, the depression is like acid slowly eating away at everything until all that is left is this state of hopelessness.
Picture the worst you have ever felt in your life.. now magnify that by 10. That is what depression feels like... and magnify that again by being ashamed that you feel so depressed. Soon everything about yourself is yet again magnifying this depression until its so heavy.. the only way out is through suicide.
The only thing that has kept me alive to this day is video games... It acts like heroin for a heroin addict. For me I am momentarily distracted, I am able to live without thinking about why I am so worthless and how much of a burden I am to all involved in my life. And often that pause is exactly what I need to get this manic phase to pass... allow the depression to subside and just become lost in just not thinking.
The whole idea of guilting someone into not committing suicide I find laughable. What is the one thing you never want to do to someone who is already in a state of depression? Make them more depressed and feel more useless. To most that doesn't seem to make much sense... but to someone who suffers this day in and bloody day out, with hardly a moments worth of breathing time! It is more insulting to me hearing that kind of advice when everything is already making me feel bad about sharing the same living space as another human being.
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Re: suicide [Re: nazakoo]
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nazakoo said:
The only thing that has kept me alive to this day is video games... It acts like heroin for a heroin addict. For me I am momentarily distracted, I am able to live without thinking about why I am so worthless and how much of a burden I am to all involved in my life. And often that pause is exactly what I need to get this manic phase to pass... allow the depression to subside and just become lost in just not thinking.
purhaps you might try to stop the video games for just one day, just like a heroin addict ought to stop the heroin, and spend a whole day thinking about why you are so worthless and how much of a burden you are to all involved in yourself AND WHAT YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE THIS OTHER THAN GIVING UP ON LIFE
that said
frankly when i woke up this morning i felt like my whole life was meaningless and i just all around was not happy with where i am in my life today, i was a bit shaken by a creepy dream i'd rather not go there tho... then i decided to step outside and once the sunshine touched my face i realized there is no special point in life, its just to live and to find satisfaction with who i am who i've become and who i am going to be, then to change that which i am not proud of myself for
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yeah he's definitely gonna appreciate replies to his suicide thread almost 4 years later... dude's probably already gone and offed himself. (joking) (and i have been suicidal many times before so don't be like 'you don't know what it's like, that's not funny'. How do you know a rape victim wouldn't joke about rape?)
Anyways, all you need is very healthy organic food like vegetables, fruit etc, take a multi-vitamin every day too. Get a fuckbuddy or girlfriend or something. Exercise, sunlight and to socialize with others and find joy in the little things help a lot... you could probably name more but I recommend improving the above habits to be happier.
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ummm actually i was directing my post at nazakoo, and yea that was a hilarious joke... and i have no idea how thinking suicidal thoughts is comparable to being a rape victim, but maybe thats just another hilarious joke that i don't get...
but yea in all seriousness diet, exercise, and sociability surely does have something to do with self satisfaction.
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Icelander said: Yet, it still applies. If someone really wants to off themselves who are we to stand in their way? Next you will be wanting to control how we decide to live.
haha so i wonder how you feel about the fact that in America you do not have the right to kill youself (Suicide really is a crime)
i wonder what it costs to keep a dead man in prison?
You don't need permission to off yourself no matter what the law.
I live in a state with the only assisted suicide law on the books.
i totally agree with you man, you should have the right to do whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want, but you cant, and you never will. maybe its just me, but doesn't this debate seem a little inappropriate for this thread man? i am sure you aren't trying to be in here coming across as a totally insensitive prick, but you are. please bring the personal rights debate elsewhere some of us are actually trying to have a meaningful thread here. please don't make this political. people already kind of know that they can commit suicide and no one can stop them(if that is what they actually really want), thats why we are here in the first place. i know there are tons of skeptics but what if, sometime in the future someone happens across this thread that this would really really help out man maybe it wont even be the reader that it helps , but the reader goes out and is inspired to help someone else in this situation. there is always a chance. trust me man, there isn't a single person in the world that needs to be told that suicide is an "option".
maybe I'm just being defensive because this topic really hits home for me, but i just think this is a really fucked up thread to bring politics into.
Honestly, I think what you said here is pretty crazy. I have been a lurker here for a little while on some threads but what you said here just made me want to make an account. It's disgusting.
When it comes to suicide, the methods of going about it are nuts. The states that be deny people the right to a peaceful suicide. Why the hell do you think Dr. Kevorkian went to jail?
Suicide is basically a crime when you fail to follow through it. When one can't afford to buy a gun or get some precious pills from god knows where on the black market, then it becomes a vicious cycle of misery and pain.
That's why it is also a political subject and a moral one too.
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there's not suicide pills available on the black market dood, people just take more pills than they are supposed to as far as that goes usually there own prescription sleeping pills or some shit like that.
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SurReality said: there's not suicide pills available on the black market dood, people just take more pills than they are supposed to as far as that goes usually there own prescription sleeping pills or some shit like that.
Don't know if srs.
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what the hell does srs mean?
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Anonymous said: i'm not taking any ssri's. They hurt me mentally as a child. I guess i'm feeling better. Haven't thought seriously about it for a few days. I think i will always suffer from depression, but i hope i can survive it, and have some good experiences in this life anyway.
Hope youre doing well man. I understand a little bit of that version of darkness. When you have good days though I would suggest you use whatever motivation or optimism you have to research various forms of therapy and healthy living.
Some individuals have had success with depression by treating it as a biochemical problem. Stop eating any wheat or gluten containing products or try stopping all dairy intake. Maybe Lithium Orotate would help or maybe you are mercury toxic from amalgam tooth fillings.
On the mental side of things you can try different therapy methods other than the conventional clinical stuff. Maybe EFT or the Sedona method could provide some help. A memeber of the shroomery recently introduced me to Internal Family Systems which is more clinical healing system. I haven't had much time to look it over yet but I definitely see potential there.
Just try to imagine for a second that you could actually never be depressed again. Imagine that you could be walking along one day and somebody mentions how depressed they are and you realize you haven't felt that way in forever. You actually forgot you were ever depressed. It's possible.
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hello, i wonder how you are. i stumbled upon this page and feel the pull to just disappear. did you ever feel better???
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Re: suicide [Re: dels]
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maybe you should move. i know that feeling
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My mom committed suicide about a year ago. You never know who or what might make you happier than ever before. I believe that she was ultimately brought down by a psycho-societal issue that derived from many places.
1. She was always worried about money. 2. She worried about things that she did in the past that weren't really that bad. 3. She worried about the people in her life that weren't there any more. (dead family members) 4. Her diet was always terrible; Lots of Diet Coke, flouridated water and numerous mainstream medications. Eat more fruit! 5. She beleived that all the reality in this world that she could see, was all that was there to be obtained.
It brings me joy to think this may affect change on you because my Mom's suicide changed my whole reality. It made me realize how much a human needs other people. We need the positive energy from people who really love us. If anyone reading this ever finds any signs from a loved one of suicide, please just give them attention and positive reassurance.
I used to view suicide as an option. This has turned my reality upside down and shaken me in a fantastic way. Blessings.
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There are loads of suicide threads on here....
The only thing you need to know about suicide is
ITS NEVER THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!
(unless you are doing a pub quiz and the question is how did Kurt Cobain Die?)
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Sounds like you're in the same situation as me brother. One of my good friends just committed suicide on new years while I was out partying, his funeral is tomorrow. I know exactly how you feel about wanting to kill yourself but I also know the pain to have someone close to you commit suicide. Trust me no matter how bad you feel do you really want to make everyone around you miserable too?
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i hope you understand what i am trying to say here, this being an extremely emotional topic for me, it was very hard for me to express my feelings on the subject into words. hopefully i got my feelings (at least somewhat) across and i hope this was able to at least help someone out a little bit. i just felt like it was fate that i would randomly come across this specific thread while i was thinking about my mother, so i thought i owed it to myself and the shroomery to at least give my opinion and experience whether or not it actually means anything to anyone but me. i will be keeping my eye on this thread. this one really means allot to me. i also want to say that it also means allot to me that we can do this here like this, the shroomery is one hell of a community, lots of good people here, and i am damn proud to be a part of it. thanks shroomery and all shroomerites. 
Amen!
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haha that post was 4 years ago
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Everybody wants to commit suicide nowadays. I just had my friends funeral cause he committed suicide, two of my friends want to commit suicide, and so do I.
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And trade life, with its potential for all sorts of different experiences, for nothing? Oblivion? Why?
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zzripz
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ganjasmuggler said: Everybody wants to commit suicide nowadays. I just had my friends funeral cause he committed suicide, two of my friends want to commit suicide, and so do I.
Do you know why the did it? And what is your reasons?
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Re: suicide [Re: zzripz]
#15633617 - 01/08/12 05:34 AM (12 years, 23 days ago) |
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A main reason I wouldn't probably commit suicide in non-pain related situations is the chance that, after dying, we are born again as the same person and live the exact same life. So in other words, ending one's life due to depression would not be an escape of that life, in fact, quite the opposite, ending that life would permanently and eternally imprison one in it. But of course, even if things do not repeat, ending life on a low note accomplishes roughly the same thing.
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