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Is this coco tek stuff any good?
    #7704472 - 12/01/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I went to my local hydro shop to get some coco coir and all they had was coco tek. it's coco coir with husk and chips in it.
Here's a pic of it hydrated


Will this stuff work good?
I'm guessing it's going to take forever to colonize.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7704594 - 12/01/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see how it would hurt to try.

although, my experience with hydro shop coir is lots of trichoderma.

trichoderma is great for rooted plants. So some places have it "pre contaminated" just for you! (good for plants bad for fungus)

be sure to pasteurize it well.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: jeetered]
    #7704629 - 12/01/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's the same hydro farm brand so I feel good enough to give it a shot.

I'll probably make a mono tub with it.
How many Qs of rye for one brick?


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7704639 - 12/01/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like to use a LOT of spawn so maybe wait for another response, but I used 11 pints for one brick of bed a beast, so im guessing that's around 5 or 6 quarts.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: jeetered]
    #7704646 - 12/01/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dam that's more than I had in mind
I have like 10q but three kinds


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7704653 - 12/01/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yes i can vouch for that... its all i was able to get in toronto. good choice.


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7704831 - 12/02/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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bryanbzl said:
yes i can vouch for that... its all i was able to get in toronto. good choice.




Does it take longer to colonize?


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7704911 - 12/02/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I am using something similar, it is called piece coir where I bought it. I made a thread a day back or so and I am told it is cool to use. I will be trying in a week or so, I will let you know when I do.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: Nem]
    #7705376 - 12/02/07 03:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I will be spawning soon as I can go to sleep and wake up.
I'll post updated pic here as I go.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7705759 - 12/02/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

noo... well its colonizing pretty fast and this is my first time. so, i can't give you an answer on a comparison with another product.


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7705778 - 12/02/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

myc usually rips right through coir rather quickly.
that's why it makes a shitty casing layer.
casing layers should not be nutritious, obviously coir is :P


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: jeetered]
    #7705825 - 12/02/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yea you are correct... ive seen some pretty awesome results on a coir/verm casing though. im trying it next since i have a huge abundance of coir. what moisture content should my casing have? Fairly wet?


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

conclusion:
poor fucking children of the early 1900's.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7707370 - 12/02/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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yea you are correct... ive seen some pretty awesome results on a coir/verm casing though. im trying it next since i have a huge abundance of coir. what moisture content should my casing have? Fairly wet?




Are you planning on using coir as a casing layer or as the substrate? Regardless, "fairly wet" is probably too wet. One of the biggest causes of problems with coir is it being too moist. It can a hold a lot of water and is easy to over saturate. Basically, the good old squeeze test should be your guide. Give each handful a good squeeze. If only one or two drops of water drip out, then you are good. Any more than that and its too moist. You can fix the moisture content by squeezing all the excess water out of each handful, but your hands will start to get tired if you are doing any decent ammount.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: soulsizzle]
    #7707394 - 12/02/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i mean as a casing... i already have a few tubs of it colonizing and before adding the cup up BRF cakes i squeezed as much water out as i could... which was the directions that many gave me and it worked well.
as a casing is it supposed to be pretty saturated?


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"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children."

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poor fucking children of the early 1900's.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7707680 - 12/02/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i use a new pillow case to twist and tighten my coir to field capacity.
People have used coir in their casings for a long time, but, again, a casing layer should have absolutely NO nutrients, and coir is nutritious, so, that means it shouldn't be used. Coir is a better bulk substrate due to this fact.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: soulsizzle]
    #7707689 - 12/02/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is something I would like to solve. I like to pasteurize by hydrating coir with boiling water then putting it in a styrofoam cooler for an hour. I usually end up with too much water trying to get the temperature right. So I have to squeeze every handful. This is a waste of time.

I like using the boiling water technique because it is so efficient and uses little energy. I guess I will probably just have to deal with that.

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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: theratatat]
    #7707710 - 12/02/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

the boiling water tek is top notch, it's what i do, chek my jeets coir bag tek in my sig, the way to not waste your hands strength is to place the soaked coir into a pillowcase, spin it until it's tight as hell, and then smash it till the water is out, then you have it pretty much to where it should be.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: jeetered]
    #7707910 - 12/02/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Jeetered, great tek I will have to give it a try. I would disagree with you about it being a half assed way to pasteurize. I have used a temperature probe in the center and edges and always keep the temperate well into the 160s - 170's for at least an hour in my styrofoam cooler.


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Re: Is this coco tek stuff any good? [Re: theratatat]
    #7707933 - 12/02/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How many quarts of rye should I use for one brick?


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