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naptha use in thc extraction * 1
    #7703340 - 12/01/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A friend acquired some orange DMT crystals, claiming they were synthesized, but I found out they were probably extracted from Mimosa hostilis.

I gave it a sniff after my friend claimed it smelled like dead old people.  To me it smelled kinda like old piss/mothballs, to another it smelled like opium (wtf), and my roomie said it reminded him of some really horrible weed he smoked a few years ago.

So I did a little searching, not finding any certain answers,  and put together that the smell of orange (less purified)dmt crystals comes from the use of naptha in the extraction process.

After what my roommate said, I wonder is it possible to extract thc crystals from marijuana using naptha?  And if so, can the stripped buds be dried and smoked?  That would be a pretty shitty move on a pot dealer's part...    :nonono:


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: WoodsCall] * 1
    #7703387 - 12/01/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have a definite answer but I do know that some dealers somehow get the THC crystals off their stuff, sell the weed as mids, and then smoke the crystals. Apparently a bowl of that stuff gets you high for like 8 hours. I may be misinformed though...


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: WoodsCall] * 1
    #7703435 - 12/01/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Althought that may be possible, I would rather just smoke the pot or use a vaporizer.
I'm pretty sure that other cannabinoids affect how the THC works in the brain.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Sell Your Soul] * 1
    #7710272 - 12/03/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes you can do a naptha extract its better then doing an alcohol one. Heat the naptha but dont blow your self up. hot water bath


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: thedudenj] * 1
    #7710342 - 12/03/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think he means doing a polar/nonpolar extract to get THC crystle. i think this is possible, and you can go about this the same way as salvinorin.

someone with experience should check me, i think if you extracted with acetone or alcohol you'd get hash; then wash with naphtha youd get a clearer colored product. also i dont think the THC will be solid but liquid like oil.

but really who wants something stronger than hash? pure THC is actually dangerous, i have heard from erowid someone ODing on Sativex(c) -a medical marijuana mouthspray.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #7710416 - 12/03/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Pretty sure you need to cook your weed up first. Many alkaloids are not active and will not be absorbed by naphtha unless you cook your weed a little. Like oven 300 degrees for an hour. Then you can add naphtha heat it let it sit put it through a filter and dry it up to get resin.

I am almost sure this method will work with alcohol, i have been collecting ashes from my vaporizer. I filled a whole cup added 99% iso alcohol let it sit for few days put it through filter and dryed it out on a tray ended up with a lot of dense resin that got you pretty fucked pretty fast. Then with leftovers i dissolved in alcohol saturated it and sucked it up with a cigar and let it dry. I already smoked that thing twice and its only like 1/4 done.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Infested] * 1
    #7710496 - 12/03/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ya if thc disolves in alcohol is shouldnt disolve in naphtha, that is the point in using naphtha- so things other than THC disolve in it and you trash the naphtha- repeat. after a few times there should be much less dark color in you product.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #7711829 - 12/03/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You only need to put the oven at 300 for 5 minutes, you'll start to smell the weed very quickly, after 5-7 mins take it out. I did an ethanol extraction and just take a few eyedroppers with juice in a shot glass. But i guess with naphtha you would be going for a smokable product, personally i enjoy just taking the alcohol, gets me super high for 7 hours off of 3-5ml of it.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Cannashroom] * 1
    #7712288 - 12/03/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't see why it would need to be heated :confused:


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Stizzle] * 1
    #7712600 - 12/03/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^^ indeed, the vaporization point of thc is at like 200-250 degrees F. that statement is false and unneeded.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: KrishnaDreamer] * 1
    #7712629 - 12/03/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

All i am trying to say is weed is not orally active unless its cooked. And i assumed the alkaloids turn into active alkaloids that can be absorbed by alcohol.

The only reason my extraction worked is because these ashes were from my vaporizer so the weed has been "cooked".

So eating weed normally will not do anything and soaking weed in alcohol is to be tested. It depends what you want a product to smoke or to eat.

And i guess puting it in oven for 250f for 10 min will be ok. *shrugs*


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: WoodsCall] * 1
    #7713916 - 12/04/07 03:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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So I did a little searching, not finding any certain answers, and put together that the smell of orange (less purified)dmt crystals comes from the use of naptha in the extraction process.





I can't believe no one has caught this quote and cleared it up yet. Oh well, guess I will. As many already know...If you introduce naptha to any substance, and allow it evaporate entirely, you will not smell anything. It is highly volatile. The dmt smell should be a perfumed plastic smell. It is very distinct.
Naptha will NOT affect the smell of the extraction once it is evaporated.

You are right about the crystals being a result of extraction though.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: akb112211] * 1
    #7714020 - 12/04/07 04:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

thc only needs to be heated if treated with oil/fats. it is soluble in alcohol/solvents. if being used with oil temp should be around 130-200 for 30min-1h.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #7714028 - 12/04/07 05:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SurReality said:but really who wants something stronger than hash? pure THC is actually dangerous, i have heard from erowid someone ODing on Sativex(c) -a medical marijuana mouthspray.




Pure THC is not dangerous.

SativeX is not pure THC.

Budder (www.BudderKing.biz) is 80-99% THC, though. People use that and don't OD. Unless you're refering to ODing as being 'Too high'.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Stizzle] * 1
    #7714090 - 12/04/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it doesn't need to be heated but if you do you will have more active thc.

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When marijuana is harvested, the THC molecule is bound to a carboxyl group – COOH – that is, one atom each of carbon and hydrogen and two atoms of oxygen. With a carboxyl group attached, THC is not active.

Heating dried marijuana makes the carboxyl group convert into water (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2). When marijuana is smoked, the burning eliminates the carboxyl group. There are several ways to decarboxylate marijuana for use in extracts. A layer of marijuana buds or leaf can be placed in an oven at 150 degrees for 15 minutes. This is far below the boiling point of THC yet warm enough to evaporate the carboxyl group. Another method of releasing the COOH is by placing a bowl of buds in the microwave for 2 minutes. The waves will boil away the water. The boiling point of marijuana's active cannabinoids ranges from 260-392 degrees F.





and i think (but i may be wrong) that marijuana is active orally, just not very efficiently. i've read about people eating the actual plant matter or a couple grams of hash and getting effects from it. thc is fat soluble so when you cook with say butter, you are basically making the thc easier for your body to process. same with alcohol.


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Re: naphtha use in THC extraction [Re: maggotz] * 1
    #7714461 - 12/04/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have personally extracted weed into honey oil using butane, and I know for a fact that naphtha would also work. your never going to get "crystals" of THC, it's an oil, not a crystalline solid. As for heat treating? I don't know, but I do know that if you eat a chunk of hash, your going to get blown, so who knows.
Don't use alcohol to extract, you get a whole bunch of chlorophyll.


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Re: naphtha use in THC extraction [Re: Xeluc] * 1
    #7714491 - 12/04/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah read up people have done naptha extracts butane is better tho i also heard of doing alcohol then extracting it out of it with naptha to produce a purer product


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Infested] * 1
    #7714536 - 12/04/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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All i am trying to say is weed is not orally active unless its cooked.




That's a myth and I'm sad no one mentioned that before me... Your stomach can't really digest plant matter which is why eating weed won't get you high (but eating hash made with a cold solvent will).


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: Aopocetx] * 1
    #7714590 - 12/04/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If the hash is also pressed with mild heat (even the heat of your fingers), it will decarboxylize the THC. I have always heard that decarboxylization potentiates THC, making it more orally active and more potent in smoking.

This is all based on that book 'trash to stash.'


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    #14699550 - 06/30/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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All i am trying to say is weed is not orally active unless its cooked.




That's a myth and I'm sad no one mentioned that before me... Your stomach can't really digest plant matter which is why eating weed won't get you high (but eating hash made with a cold solvent will).




i do both, and both get me high. repeatedly, over and over.


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Re: naptha use in thc extraction [Re: wem420]
    #14699604 - 06/30/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The one time i made hash oil i did it using naptha, it works quite well and i plan on trying it again very soon. I hear acetone works even better.


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    #14699876 - 07/01/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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All i am trying to say is weed is not orally active unless its cooked.




That's a myth and I'm sad no one mentioned that before me... Your stomach can't really digest plant matter which is why eating weed won't get you high (but eating hash made with a cold solvent will).




i do both, and both get me high. repeatedly, over and over.



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