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SurReality
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Profitable Edibles?
#7701710 - 12/01/07 02:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lately I've gotten addicted to eBay... i've been makin some cash sellin salvia, and it planted a small bussiness seed in my mind. So i started thinkin of growin and sell shitakes... why shitakes? cuz i understand you can grow them with PF tek (according to the almighty Rabit), the only variation is to use sawdust instead of verm(if im not mistaken). So i don't even really need to learn how a different strain grows since they like the same conditions as the good old cubies...
so my question is if anyone else grows shrooms for business, i saw an article in Hightimes that was all about these mycologists who started selling boomers in amsterdam, they don't even like to eat 'em! so this turned my edible biz idea into a dream. im somewhat interested in amanitas but its in the back of my head, cause i can't stand 'em ;-(P
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WeBeBad
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: SurReality]
#7701732 - 12/01/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shiitakes are a little different. For instance, I believe they require a drastic cold shock before they will fruit, just to name one difference.
Oh yeah, not to mention they're already mass produced. I expect you'll have a hard time growing enough shiitake for a reasonable profit.
Edited by WeBeBad (12/01/07 03:09 AM)
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SurReality
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: WeBeBad]
#7701801 - 12/01/07 04:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya i'd probably would have to keep with the legal trips... they have demand on small quantities...
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Horse_Meister
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: SurReality]
#7701974 - 12/01/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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atleast he is thinking. i like a thinking mind. you can however grow oysters and sell them to restaurants for $6-7 a pound. you just have to find your market. Sureality, if you come up with any great ideas, i'm all ears. feel free to pm me.
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YidakiMan
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Keep in mind cost of goods sold, so you know how much money you make.
Oysters cost me nearly nothing to produce (.25-.4$/lb) I can easily charge as low as $4 a lb and make good money. (1000% markup).
But it costs a more to produce shimiji (.75-$1.25/lb), so here I only aim for 600-800% markup. This is true with my pioppinos and namekos but hericium and trumpets are the exception.
This does not include establishment cost, which will cost at least a grand; labor cost or self-employment tax if you are not a partnership or LLC. You will find that after you pay yourself you have very very little, if any profit left.
But in your case: Using pint jars will drive your cost of goods sold through the roof because of the fuel needed. Even if you get an AA941 pressure cooker, you'll be able to cook 200 some odd jars with one 5 gal propane tank. You'll end up spending $1 on propane for every pound of shrooms. If you just used bags instead of pint jars, that could go down at least half.
Edited by YidakiMan (12/01/07 12:07 PM)
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Cheezit
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7708952 - 12/02/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What type of trumpets do you cultivate? Didn't know black trumpets where cultivatable. Or am i making a presumption?
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YidakiMan
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: Cheezit]
#7710013 - 12/03/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eryngii. The market is leading towards accepting trumpet as a tradename.
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x7x_x7x
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7716365 - 12/04/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i you will grow mushrooms for human consumption the health authorities sure must inspect and APPROVE you lab
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YidakiMan
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: x7x_x7x]
#7716462 - 12/04/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't quite understand what you are trying to say, but I've talked to my State Ag Dept and I am well under the production necessary for state inspection. Must grow over 100,000lbs/yr to be inspected. You cannot even ask for an inspection if you are under 100,000 units/year.
Many wholesale produce distributors require 3rd Party Inspection.
I've also sent a letter to the USDA and am awaiting a response. You don't have to bother with the USDA unless you sell across state lines.
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Pooter
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7716991 - 12/04/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could sell at your towns farmers market(if you have one) and get some pretty good cash.
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YidakiMan
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: Pooter]
#7717048 - 12/04/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Markets are already closed for the season. There is already one mushroom grower that sells shiitakes and oysters. He buys his blocks so I could easily undersell him. When I moved to town I asked him for a PT job but he told me I was overqualified for his farm. He called me a mycologist, lol.
I might wholesale him my mushrooms so he has more variety.
Farmers markets are great for growers with families and employees but I don't have the time anyway.
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7717095 - 12/04/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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great news! please post any data on this subject, i'm thinking sell edibles too
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SurReality
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: x7x_x7x]
#7727219 - 12/07/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wonder how one would research areas with demand on mushrooms, i would imagine at you typical american farmers market there wouldnt be many people interested in edible mushrooms. do you have to prove that your crop was grown locally? cause it seems like a good idea to have one big ass place to mass grow, and load up a pick-up and go to the markets that where you know people like mushrooms... also what about mushroom fests? theres an annual one just an hr from me in Telluride, i know lots a. muscarias go around the fest
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Cheezit
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7736551 - 12/09/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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eryngii are one of my favorites. Though I do love them all.
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sidewayz6.6
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7737296 - 12/09/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
YidakiMan said: Markets are already closed for the season. There is already one mushroom grower that sells shiitakes and oysters. He buys his blocks so I could easily undersell him. When I moved to town I asked him for a PT job but he told me I was overqualified for his farm. He called me a mycologist, lol.
I might wholesale him my mushrooms so he has more variety.
Farmers markets are great for growers with families and employees but I don't have the time anyway.
Hoozerberg? Are you from Indiana, by any chance?
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: YidakiMan]
#7739953 - 12/10/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
YidakiMan said: When I moved to town I asked him for a PT job but he told me I was overqualified for his farm. He called me a mycologist, lol.
Sometimes is better to seem limited, you might overcome him in knowledge (ïm sure this is the problem) and that´s something a boss can not tolerate, you know it´s his bussiness...
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Re: Profitable Edibles? [Re: SurReality]
#7752814 - 12/13/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if I expand to edibles i'm going to try out my cities urban markets like where you find all the health foods/organic restaurants ect...
use local forums "selling fresh gourmet mushrooms" if completely organic advertise as so.
I live in a small city and we have a dozen widely viewed forums that I know of I could only amagine a big city in the states... there should be money to be made...
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