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OfflineMokshaIs
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What is the essence of spirituality?
    #7701694 - 12/01/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Whenever I ask this what rings within is awareness of the interconnectedness of all. What do ya'll think? What else?


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there is but One
and it is nOne
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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7701817 - 12/01/07 04:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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What is the essence of spirituality?




Lavender


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7701831 - 12/01/07 05:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wonderful! We have replaced the vague word 'spiritual' with yet another vague word 'interconnectedness'. That certainly clears things up.

I personally have no relationship with those horrid pincer bugs on Ceti Alpha 5 - even while meditating or eating a bowl of Frosted Mini-Wheats.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7701862 - 12/01/07 06:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yah you have a ghastly meaningless monty python show going
with not nearly enough math happenning.

spirituality is being able to see what is happenning
and make it more beautiful

people use approximations in their choice of words to express that
they also use proxies to represent the concept of Void/God/Energy etc.
which in linear math is what we use ZERO and INFINITY for
(placeholders for concepts that range beyond the rest of the series of objects being discussed - both zero and infinity function in expressions differently than other numbers, but math requires them to be complete).

different words please different folks on this spiritual quest, but it is usually about making things better as best you can.

struggling with the proxies is understandable, but you don't usually need proxies if you keep your life simple.
trying to make a proxy or placeholder metaphor more concrete like other concepts is basically a waste of time.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7702430 - 12/01/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And to think I was attempting to model your enigma-wrapped zen-speak. I shall strive harder, your royal wordsmith. :bow:


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7702468 - 12/01/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Good stories - Jataka tales


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Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7702469 - 12/01/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
And to think I was attempting to model your enigma-wrapped zen-speak. I shall strive harder, your royal wordsmith. :bow:


that should be 'wordsmithship' or 'wordsmithness', actually


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7702492 - 12/01/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



"Scent from the bible" WTF?

Like "Scent from Gawd?"

Smells like mean spirit.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: Middleman]
    #7702507 - 12/01/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the essence of spirituality is the ability to know what is actually occouring, and what horrid could of taken its place instead, aswell as the gratitude and awareness of something so infintismly great that luckily occoured.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #7702524 - 12/01/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

To become totally immersed in the moment, and therefore exist in a state wherein there is no past or future. I think Ram Dass was right. The essence of spirituality is to "Be Here Now". By living totally in the moment, you become one with all of existence and all eternity, because time is just one eternal moment.

Words, particularly mine, will never be able to express spirituality properly. If spirituality could be explained in a concise manner, using words, it would have been done long ago and we would live in a very different world. The essence of spirituality is, I suppose, like everything else- whatever you make of it.

For me, it's the experience of true being, unconditonal, infinite spiritual love and the golden beam of the clear light. Naturally, though, this sounds like a bunch of crap to anyone who reads it- some things have to be experienced to be understood and just can't be explained.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7702540 - 12/01/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Essence is... :bell ring:


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7702541 - 12/01/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Spirituality is located on the rack of the Grocery Check-out lane.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7702546 - 12/01/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
yah you have a ghastly meaningless monty python show going
with not nearly enough math happenning.

spirituality is being able to see what is happenning
and make it more beautiful

people use approximations in their choice of words to express that
they also use proxies to represent the concept of Void/God/Energy etc.
which in linear math is what we use ZERO and INFINITY for
(placeholders for concepts that range beyond the rest of the series of objects being discussed - both zero and infinity function in expressions differently than other numbers, but math requires them to be complete).

different words please different folks on this spiritual quest, but it is usually about making things better as best you can.

struggling with the proxies is understandable, but you don't usually need proxies if you keep your life simple.
trying to make a proxy or placeholder metaphor more concrete like other concepts is basically a waste of time.




spirituality is being able to see what is happenning
and make it more beautiful


I can make a mint off of this as a bumper sticker in my little new age town. They will be beating each other over the head with tennis racquets to get at em. Thanks:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7702628 - 12/01/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
And to think I was attempting to model your enigma-wrapped zen-speak. I shall strive harder, your royal wordsmith. :bow:



you have me confused with yeti nother


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7702731 - 12/01/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

By definition, SPIRITUALity is rooted in things which are SPIRITUAL.

A SPIRIT, by definition is intangible. You can't see it... you can't hold it...

ESSENCE means: The KEY INGREDIENTS which make something what it is.

Therefore, by definition, the ESSENCE of SPIRITUALity... the KEY INGREDIENTS of SPIRITUALity... have to be:

1. SOMETHING which DOES NOT REALLY EXIST in a TANGIBLE FORM...

and 2. The BELIEF IN IT.

Without BOTH ingredients, you would not have SPIRITUALity. You'd instead, have something else.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7703023 - 12/01/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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you have me confused with yeti nother




*Shmoopy removes bigfoot from mouth*


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: Lion]
    #7703031 - 12/01/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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that should be 'wordsmithship' or 'wordsmithness', actually




When you're right, you're right, your wordsmithshipness. :pirate:


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7703068 - 12/01/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
yet another vague word 'interconnectedness'.




Because a word encompasses all things, does not make it vague. It makes it hard to comprehend. But that would take admittance to not understanding...


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7703078 - 12/01/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
Quote:

What is the essence of spirituality?




Lavender




"Moisture is the essence of Wetness" :rofl:


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7703228 - 12/01/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:

:stoner:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7714405 - 12/04/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What is the essence of spirituality?


Quote:

EllisDSox said:
The essence of spirituality is, I suppose, like everything else- whatever you make of it.




Another example of being "spiritual"

.......a Christian, Jew and a Buddhist can witness the same event and walk away with 3 different interpretations of said event and all 3 be right........from their point of view/spirituality.

:crazy2:


Makes you realize that it doesn't matter what religion/spirituality you choose, you can still find peace and truth.


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Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: niteowl]
    #7714422 - 12/04/07 09:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Peace maybe...


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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: MokshaIs]
    #7714439 - 12/04/07 09:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MokshaIs said:
Whenever I ask this what rings within is awareness of the interconnectedness of all. What do ya'll think? What else?




I think spirituality is an effort to ease the anxiety that humans, because of our self reflective minds, have inherited, which confronts us with the awareness that we are temporary and will decay and die. The ego structure can't deal directly with this and so creates anxiety relieving beliefs about something that will insure our continuance on some level.

Pretty clever I guess.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: What is the essence of spirituality? [Re: Icelander]
    #7715077 - 12/04/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think spirituality is an emergent approximation of the unspeakable. Otherwise it ends up as a personal chunk made up of what which remains unspoken.


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