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Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds
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The Shroomery was founded on the notion of individual liberty; that your body is your own, that an action which affects only yourself can never be a crime. There is one man poised to bring this principle to the highest level of government, and it is our duty and privilege to lend our support. I speak of course of Ron Paul, contender for the Republican presidential nomination and outspoken critic of big government, oppressive legislation and irresponsible spending. The Shroomery is getting involved and now you can help us make a difference!
For the entire month of December, when you donate to the Ron Paul presidential campaign through ronpaul2008.com, we will credit 100% of the donation amount towards electronic merchandise on the Shroomery. This includes supporter accounts, name changes and classified ads. Simply forward a copy of your donation receipt to ythan@shroomery.org along with your BB username and a list of product(s) you would like. So make a $24 donation and you can get a six month supporter account. $22.75 will get you both a name change and a three month supporter account. Etcetera. There's no minimum or maximum, but your donation should cover the full amount of the product(s) you want.
If you've been waiting to contribute, there's never been a better time. Your dollars can do double duty, getting you free goodies on the Shroomery along with your participation in a burgeoning grassroots political movement with the power to bring about real change. If you've never heard of Ron Paul, please take a moment and find out what you've been missing. More information about Ron Paul's impeccable and consistent record of public service is available from his official campaign site and on Wikipedia. His message transcends party lines and speaks directly to the universal desire to be free, happy, and prosperous, as our founding fathers intended. And while we think you'll find it appealing, if you don't agree with Paul's politics that's fine too! Our members are diverse and we recognize that no single candidate can satisfy everyone. We are making this fund-raising opportunity available for those who wish to participate; you are free to ignore it as well. We do not claim that the views expressed in this message represent all our members or moderators. This is an admin-sponsored fund-raiser and I take ultimate responsibility for conceiving and launching the event. So no matter who you support for president in 2008, we encourage you to get active and make your voice heard. If nothing else, we hope to highlight the importance of this election. The future of the nation is in your hands, don't squander the opportunity!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701322 - 11/30/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ythan your the yman!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
#7701327 - 11/30/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tea party 2007
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701331 - 11/30/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wierd, I was just re-watching the Republican GOP. I'll be sure to keep this in mind.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701354 - 11/30/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im getting more convinced.
Ill probably vote for him in the primary here in arizona. What the hell is a supporter account anyway?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: DieCommie]
#7701382 - 11/30/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been regularly donating to Ron Paul 2008 campaign, great to see boards i'm affiliated with getting on board.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701383 - 11/30/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd donate all my points to Ron Paul, if we still had them
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#7701420 - 11/30/07 11:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Le Narrateur said: I'd use all of my points to change my username Ron Paul, if we still had them
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701429 - 11/30/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heh, as if I needed another reason to get that sweet LSD shirt here it is. Definately makin some orders around christmas
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7701460 - 12/01/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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it doesnt say anything about shirt money or hoodie money going to RP. just supporter accounts, name changes and email accounts.
But, i do need to re-up on my supporter account, since now that I have one, I feel like I need it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Pat Bateman, VP]
#7701463 - 12/01/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is how it has to happen. If like minded, logical, and intelligent people such the members of this forum are ever going to take back control of OUR country this is how it is going to be done.
Mass movements organized via the internet.
In this day and age those who put forth the effort to get organized and point their collective efforts in a positive direction, can achieve huge results.
Thank you shroomery, and expect my donation!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7701508 - 12/01/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh, damn. Well I still want that shirt
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Chemy]
#7701598 - 12/01/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I want to read this when I am not so fuc#ed up.
Good nite
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: abesh]
#7701613 - 12/01/07 01:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is excellent of you guys to do.
I guess I'll have to spend some money here and make a donation.
I would love for him to be elected. L-O-V-E it. I'm pessimistic though.
the damn corporate media and their "poll numbers" have a hold on the American public.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7701684 - 12/01/07 02:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh my god, I love this site more and more. I can't believe the kind of support Ron Paul is getting. I'm glad everybody is doing their part.
I'll be ordering my supporter account and whatever else I can afford since it supports Dr. Paul...and will be buying a couple pieces of clothing to give back to this website. I will also be renewing my supporter account. I have been actively campaigning through the Meetup Groups for Ron since I heard he was running, as I am hoping (and praying) for this absolutely necessary change.
God I love this place. 
$12 million for freedom!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701698 - 12/01/07 02:28 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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wonderful! ron, you've got my support.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7701764 - 12/01/07 03:32 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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isn't Ron Paul an arch-conservative? Seems like an odd political choice for users of psychedelics, who I'd imagine might have more liberal views. Reading his Wikipedia page, all he seems to say about drugs is he'd leave it up to individual states. That doesn't necessarily mean they'd be more relaxed - take California, Idaho, and Georgia's rules on mushroom spores, for example.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: roquet]
#7701806 - 12/01/07 04:30 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of all the choices you have, he's a good one. Right then! On the seventh, I'll find out how much money I have. If it's enough, then I can get a supporter account. I want Ron Paul to win so I can visit America, and smoke a bowl without being beaten up by a bunch of uniformed cunts.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701836 - 12/01/07 05:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get the sad feeling that the shadow government wants Ron Paul to be the Republican Nominee, but only to ensure the victory of Hillary Clinton.
Good luck Ron, Good luck USA...
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7701861 - 12/01/07 06:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not American, so I have no idea what's going on with this presidential campaign over there, but from what Ythan has posted Ron Paul sounds like a pretty good candidate. Is Hilary Clinton still in the running?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: roquet]
#7701910 - 12/01/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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roquet said: isn't Ron Paul an arch-conservative? Seems like an odd political choice for users of psychedelics, who I'd imagine might have more liberal views. Reading his Wikipedia page, all he seems to say about drugs is he'd leave it up to individual states. That doesn't necessarily mean they'd be more relaxed - take California, Idaho, and Georgia's rules on mushroom spores, for example.
1. So you want a president who promises to do things he has no constitutional ability to do? Ron Paul has said he believes drugs should be legalized. He's also against abortion.
On both issues he recognizes the tenth amendment reserves those rights to the states. Why should the feds make law affecting local commerce?
Take a look at my signature... think about how far we've come from that ideal and plain meaning of the amendment:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
That's it
2. Ron Paul would surely support a constitutional amendment banning state criminilization of drug possesion.
3. What the hell does an arch-conservative believe in that is antithetical to this board's interests?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7701975 - 12/01/07 07:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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He does seem like a good candidate.. but with any candidate from a major party, you can't help but wonder what the catch is...
There is no way that he will be able to achieve all of what he says he will.. at the end of the day the president (whoever it may be) is just a puppet .. a public relations consultant for the 'company'.
This is why democracy will never prevail
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Cepheus]
#7702008 - 12/01/07 08:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't remember having had this big a smile before at this time in the morning.. few exceptions maybe.. hehe.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7705884 - 12/02/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am all for Ron Paul. There are probably people better suited for the job in the world, but they aren't running.
If he does happen to win, it shows the true power of the american people. If you buy an election, and do wrong...well fuck me. But if you have a grassroots movement, and you win by word of mouth, you certainly have a responsibility more than other candidates to uphold your position.
But to me what it comes down to is that he will stir shit up. Sure, it may get worse...but there is a some light at the end of the tunnel suggesting that it may get better too.
I'm down to try.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7705912 - 12/02/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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johnm214 said: He's also against abortion.
So he's approving more kids growing up in less than ideal positions because abortion was not an option? Poverty, abuse, abandonment and RAPE fall upon a lot these kids who are born unwanted. Never really understood how somone advocating free choice and all that jazz can be against a choice that big. Bringing a life into this nutty world that is. With abortion illegalized, there is only 2 things that can happen: The woman risks her life with dangerous home practices, such as the trusty coathanger. Or, the kid is born into an environment not really to the best ideal for a child. This is not guaranteed, as I know a few examples of unwanted kids that have 'made it', but the ratio of unwanted kids with bad lives far outweigh the ones with good ones.
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He favors withdrawal from NATO and the United Nations.
? Would someone like to explain this to me, and how it is a good thing? I see this as a superpower wanting to act on it's own without having to explain itself to anyone. (edit: officialy)
ATM, i'm still pretty sceptical on Paul. He seems like a big chunky meatloaf tossed at a starving nation, but who brought that starve around to begin with? Altho, i'll stop there at the risk of sounding like some conspiracy theorist.
For now, i'll join the ranks of "Paul, i hope you're for real" crowd.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: RuNE]
#7705931 - 12/02/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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johnm214 said: He's also against abortion.
So he's approving more kids growing up in less than ideal positions because abortion was not an option? Poverty, abuse, abandonment and RAPE fall upon a lot these kids who are born unwanted. Never really understood how somone advocating free choice and all that jazz can be against a choice that big. Bringing a life into this nutty world that is. With abortion illegalized, there is only 2 things that can happen: The woman risks her life with dangerous home practices, such as the trusty coathanger. Or, the kid is born into an environment not really to the best ideal for a child. This is not guaranteed, as I know a few examples of unwanted kids that have 'made it', but the ratio of unwanted kids with bad lives far outweigh the ones with good ones.
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He favors withdrawal from NATO and the United Nations.
? Would someone like to explain this to me, and how it is a good thing? I see this as a superpower wanting to act on it's own without having to explain itself to anyone. (edit: officialy)
ATM, i'm still pretty sceptical on Paul. He seems like a big chunky meatloaf tossed at a starving nation, but who brought that starve around to begin with? Altho, i'll stop there at the risk of sounding like some conspiracy theorist.
For now, i'll join the ranks of "Paul, i hope you're for real" crowd.
what the fuck does rape have to do with abortion? The conduct of the mother and father somehow impact the morality of evacuating the womb? How so?
Also, why would you berate someone for personal views he's agreed should not be federal policy? Yes he wants it outlawed, but he wants it done by the states. He's agreed to the federal government has not authority to act on the issue.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: dr_gonz]
#7706099 - 12/02/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, donations are nice, but you all need to go out and register as a Republican in time for your state's primaries, if it is necessary to do so, and consider becoming a delegate for Ron Paul in your state.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: RuNE]
#7706153 - 12/02/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agreed with johnm214, though Paul's abortion stance did bother me at first (and I'm still not rooting for it by any means), I do understand that Paul's primary motivations are to reduce the size and scope of the federal government, returning powers not expressly authorized by the US Constitution, back to the states where matters such as abortion may be decided on a state by state basis. When cast in this light, I think it is an absolutely fair compromise. Afterall, there's such a slim chance that I would suggest it near impossible that all 50 states will outlaw abortion. And for those states with the drive to disallow abortion, I think that is their right, just as it is the right of the people within those states, to move to another state if they so desire!
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Again, on the surface I was taken on the negative with these facts as well.. and I still don't support his suggested withdrawal from the UN. But in so far as free-trade is concerned, he is about honest and true free-trade, not elaborate contracts written up between allied nations. In his own words:
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by Ron Paul, Dr. September 10, 2007
Another NAFTA nail is about to be hammered into the coffin Washington is building for the US economy. Within the next few days our borders will be opened to the Mexican trucking industry in an unprecedented way. A "pilot" program is starting which will allow trucks from Mexico to haul goods beyond the 25 mile buffer zone to any point in the United States . Officials claim this is being done with utmost oversight, but Americans still have their legitimate concerns. Rather than securing our borders, we seem to be providing more pores for illegal aliens, drug dealers, and terrorists to permeate.
Not only that, but the anti-competitive and burdensome yoke of over-regulation of our industry at home is about to send a lot more Americans to the unemployment lines. The American Trucking industry has been heavily regulated since 1935. The express purpose of The Motor Carrier Act was to eliminate competition through permitting, regulating tariff rates, even approving routes. American trucking companies have been fighting ever since for some relief from the substantial regulatory burdens placed on them. Regulatory compliance is the single most daunting barrier to entry, and eats up huge amounts of profit. Now, to add insult to injury, Mexican trucking companies, not subject to the same onerous standards, will be allowed to roll right in and squeeze American industry further. This will severely undermine the ability of American trucking companies to remain solvent.
The fact that this is being done in the name of free trade is disturbing. Free trade is not complicated, yet NAFTA and CAFTA are comprised of thousands of pages of complicated legal jargon. All free trade really needs is two words: Low tariffs. Free trade does not require coordination with another government to benefit citizens here. Just like domestic businesses don't pay taxes, foreign businesses do not pay tariffs – consumers do, in the form of higher prices. If foreign governments want to hurt their own citizens with protectionist tariffs, let them. But let us set a good example here, and show the world an honest example of true free trade. And let us stop hurting American workers with mountains of red tape in the name of safety. Safety standards should be set privately, by the industry and by the insurance companies who have the correct motivating factors to do so.
Free trade is not the problem, and pseudo free trade is what is being offered in the wrongly named North American Free Trade Agreement and all its offshoots. The problem is a government-managed economy and the burdensome regulation that results. For our economy to remain competitive in the world, we must remember what it is to be truly free. We must lift the regulatory shackles threatening to sink our industries into oblivion. Free trade begins with freedom domestically, and we can't afford to lose that.
Now I'm not saying, by any stretch of the imagination, that this man is the perfect candidate - but I am most certainly leaning towards the position that he is the best suited candidate for positive change that is currently in the running for the 2008 election. In other words, I think Ron Paul is best suited to reduce government spending and work to eliminate failed or languishing government programs that don't serve to protect our people and often hinder an efficiently run state.
For the rest of you interested in his stance on various hot topics, I suggest reading [the collection of essays at his website]. You can also find a great deal of his voting history throughout his congressional career here.
You can't say the man ain't consistent - and I think we all know how rare that is in politics!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7706168 - 12/02/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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geokills said: ...he is the best suited candidate for positive change that is currently in the running for the 2008 election.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7706406 - 12/02/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess I'll donate 10 dollars for my name change 
I'm still finding it hard to believe Paul is Republican,though. What if he gets into office and we get another fucking Bush. Most politicians are just plastic con-men with hidden agendas
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7706441 - 12/02/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Adagio said: I'm still finding it hard to believe Paul is Republican,though.
Ron Paul is as Republican as they come. What it means to be Republican was hiijacked by the neoconservatives. Everything Ron Paul stands for is pretty darn Republican.
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What if he gets into office and we get another fucking Bush.
Seems quite unlikely - the man is far more intelligent, and he has been standing for the same ideals and issues for the past twenty years or so, consistently voting within the framework of the Constitution.
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If Ron Paul is one of them, he's certainly the most patient and principled. Of course, he is much more capable of holding a hidden agenda much more successfully.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
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Fireworks god I have been watching your avatar for the past 4 minutes. So gooooooooooood.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7706473 - 12/02/07 12:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, John McCain tried blaming the United States for Hitler, because our (smart) policy of the time was to not police the world and have a military empire. That is Ron Paul saying , because John McCain is so stupid.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7706497 - 12/02/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol Pauls just like:
"uh-uh" "nope" "nah" "I don't think so" "negative" "no"
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Wonderland420]
#7706848 - 12/02/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hahhahahah That is a great video.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7706888 - 12/02/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7706898 - 12/02/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sarcasm? or your actually for internet censorship?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7706932 - 12/02/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's not internet censorship.
Ever heard of net neutrality?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7706933 - 12/02/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7706945 - 12/02/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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A non-neutral net is exactly what we don't need. Do you keep up with tech news at all?
If you use comcast, like I do, have you noticed your bittorrent traffic is fucked? Well under Ron Paul, ISP's can shape your traffic however they want. That includes completely blocking all BT traffic (or any service for that matter,) or using a tiered system.
Fuck that.
Ron Paul thinks that corporations will play nice if they unregulated, but he is living in a dream world.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7706951 - 12/02/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am against any forms of internet censorship.
No need to get all mad about shit.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7706959 - 12/02/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, sorry I'm pretty emo.
But I'm against all forms of internet censorship as well, which is why I will be voting for Obama.
He put out a technology proposal, if you're interested in your freedoms online, look into it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7706973 - 12/02/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hmmmm looks like I'm going to have to do some more research so I'll know who to vote for when the time comes....
It's between Paul and Obama for me, but I just don't know which one would make a better president. We'll see who makes it as final Dem. and Rep. candidates, then I'll get into it more....
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7706984 - 12/02/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This will be my first presidential election. I am just so excited.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7706987 - 12/02/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well im not even American so yea. 
Anyways...this world is so fucked up as is any change is good. No matter who it is.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7706992 - 12/02/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm about 75% libertarian but another 25% is liberal.
I think that some things do need to be regulated, like the internet, and television/radio.
I sure as hell don't want one corporation to be able to own 90 to 100% of the airwaves. I think 35% is too much as is, but the FCC is sooo fucked right now, and they're fighting to loosen the restrictions on ownership as we speak.
Ron Paul would make that situation worse.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7706994 - 12/02/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are certainly things he believes in that I do not agree with and while normally that might matter in this case I can't help but overlook those in favor of seeing what this man is capable of.
He is willing to attempt some pretty dramatic changes to how the US is governed and because a few issues aren't to my liking its the big picture that matters most.
If he's elected and gets to enact his big issues it will be a dramatic change and benefit to the USA's future and not to mention even have a trickle down effect to other western nations.
The more I read about him, the more I listen to what he has to say the more excited I am at the possibility he can actually win this thing.
Don't get caught up in one issue, its rare to find a candidate that supports all your beliefs, but rather look at all his stances and then weigh the pros/cons and I'm sure you'll come to the conclusion so many of his supporters have.
This guy has the potential to shake up and do some great things that will make your life a whole lot better, not to mention how it will affect your children.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Thor]
#7707001 - 12/02/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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All I can say is that...anyone who is the #1 for lots of the drug aware peope and #1 with lots of white nationalists must be doing something right hahah.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Thor]
#7707004 - 12/02/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Thor said: This guy has the potential to shake up and do some great things that will make your life a whole lot better, not to mention how it will affect your children.
Let us hope.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707009 - 12/02/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Paul would also remove all or most regulation on internet providers. You could choose another provider besides comcast, which, why haven't you done? If your in a contract which allows traffic shaping that's your own damn fault. If your in a contract that doesn't and want the government to enforce your private contract for you, your a whinner- enforce it yourself. UCC, read it, find the law in your state/ locality.
You want the government to regulate local commerce, something you have no right to demand, and it has no right to impose.
Go to the state, get your state to pass net neutrality.
Paul will not prevent the idea, he will just stop the fed's from implementing it.
Either you're uninformed, a communist, or inconsistent.
There is no fundamental difference between personal liberty and commercial liberty.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7707012 - 12/02/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Uh oh don't throw around the C-word....people will start getting scared.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7707015 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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NOT COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!
Fuck there is nothing worse then...what is called "communism"
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7707016 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can tell you're a jackass, so I won't even argue with you.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7707018 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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McCarthyists !
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7707026 - 12/02/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if your suggesting I'm reverting to some gut-reaction to that word, you're wrong. There is no difference between the government telling you what you can do with your buisness, and the government telling you what buisness you can open, or what you can buy personally. This is communism.
Show me the bright-line between traffic-shaping legislation and any other communist stance. The person is to be free, when the government interferes with your liberty whether via consumer transactions or through your buisness, you are not free. That's why a simple pragmatic and moral stance on legislation is appropriate. Only prohibit people from engaging in activities which wrongfully (without consent) invade others' rights
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P.S. Take some personal responsibility. You are responsible for your own buisness relationships. Unless you've persued the matter w/ comcast you have no right to complain.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707028 - 12/02/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: I can tell you're a jackass, so I won't even argue with you.
Wont argue cos he has some points? Fail. Dont expect me to argue for or against this shit but come on.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7707035 - 12/02/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fine.
I haven't changed ISP's because all the big ISP's have put the local ISP's out of business.
And I do believe that the feds should impose on the ISP's, because they're running wild right now.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7707038 - 12/02/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is probably obvious, BUT
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7707043 - 12/02/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you calling me a n00b?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707046 - 12/02/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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no
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707048 - 12/02/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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gasp
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707052 - 12/02/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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*zomg
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707053 - 12/02/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Who is you calling a noob then
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707064 - 12/02/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I replied to him dummmies.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7707070 - 12/02/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It would seem you did 
my bad
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707081 - 12/02/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fine fine, Ill let you people argue about shit. Makes no difference in the end who argues the best on a internet forum. Wont change the voting outcome.
The internet is powerful! but not that powerful hahah.
I joke.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7707090 - 12/02/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707094 - 12/02/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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she's got my vote!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707102 - 12/02/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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An asian woman with breasts !
How did this happen?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707108 - 12/02/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They have surgery for all sorts of things these days. You cann even get a vajayjay when you have a peepee
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7707112 - 12/02/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you get a pee pee when you have a vajayjay,though 
This thread is going off course lol
I'm done. Back to Ron Paul and such.....
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7707173 - 12/02/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love how no matter how serious people are about things, some one always brings in the poopoo pee pee humor.
SERIOUS THREAD, SERIOUS BUSINESS.
poop.
All we need now is someone to reference the nazi's and this will become a real internet thread 
Oh internet's you are so...typical.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7707560 - 12/02/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So quitcherbitching and sign up with Copowi or get satellite. Comcast can do whatever they want with their network. It's their network. As long as you're still sending them money you're just a whiny hypocrite. You won't even stand up for your own principles but you think the government should be making laws about it. Awesome. Next are you going to ask your congressman to sponsor a bill forcing us to raise your upload limit? Bandwidth doesn't come out of thin air you know. You're going to pay for it one way or another.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7707585 - 12/02/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've had satellite, it sucked and every file I downloaded was corrupted.
Copowi isn't available here.
The only ISP's here are AT&T, or comcast, and AT&T is even worse.
And this isn't the only issue I disagree with him on.
Abortion, voluntary prayer in school, non-regulation on television/radio, etc.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7708133 - 12/02/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you disagree about other issues then I can understand why you wouldn't support him and I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions. I just hate the short-sighted and simple-minded people who ignore the principles involved and make decisions based on their one pet issue. "He won't protect my god-given right to download pirated software" is a weak reason to dismiss someone out of hand in my opinion. But if that's not what you're saying I guess we can agree to disagree. And yeah at least you're not going with AT&T they're the worst of the worst.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7708165 - 12/02/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Although im not in the US, i hope to god he gets elected. It will benefit the world, not just America.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: DepthToTheCore]
#7708465 - 12/02/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm Canadian but if I was American I would vote for him in an instant. Like notorious said, it's not just Americans who want to see Ron Paul become elected.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7708634 - 12/02/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I donated 10 to the Paul campaign for a name change woo hoo
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: dr_gonz]
#7708643 - 12/02/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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right fuckin on ythan!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7708648 - 12/02/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Ythan said: The Shroomery was founded on the notion of individual liberty; that your body is your own,
Communist Hippie!
Bow to the statue of Reagan and beg for forgiveness!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: RuNE]
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RuNE said: So he's approving more kids growing up in less than ideal positions because abortion was not an option? Poverty, abuse, abandonment and RAPE fall upon a lot these kids who are born unwanted. Never really understood how somone advocating free choice and all that jazz can be against a choice that big. Bringing a life into this nutty world that is. With abortion illegalized, there is only 2 things that can happen: The woman risks her life with dangerous home practices, such as the trusty coathanger. Or, the kid is born into an environment not really to the best ideal for a child. This is not guaranteed, as I know a few examples of unwanted kids that have 'made it', but the ratio of unwanted kids with bad lives far outweigh the ones with good ones.
First off, he is a doctor that has given birth to 4,000 babies. When he witnessed an abortion performed as an observer, he says his life changed that day, as he saw it performed, the baby was placed in a bucket and everyone in the room pretended they didn't hear it screaming.
He considers it an act of violence. He knows the federal government has no place passing legislation or law regarding abortion. It is within the authority of each state, which, as he has said, doesn't need a federal stance regarding acts of violence, such as murder.
Furthermore, he feels that the federal government is much less capable of truly representing the American people, and feels that the states should have their authority restored. He knows his view on abortion is not the only view, and that, with very complex issues such as this, the solution is to have the decision made at a level closest to the individual as well.
He asserts that, within five days, it is impossible to legally prove that there ever was a pregnancy. There are means to prevent a pregnancy within five days of it occuring, he says, and that, in delicate situations such as rape, there is plenty of time to prevent the pregnancy.
His personal belief is distinct from his outlook on it politically, which is probably the most effective answer to settling this matter. He has said that clearly some states will illegalize it, while others won't. Case in point, South Dakota illegalized it and then a referendum overturned it. He has said that a woman wouldn't even have to move to another state to have it done in a state where it was legal. Perhaps that isn't the most convienent for someone who wishes to have an abortion, but clearly an abortion isn't a convienent matter in the first place.
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Would someone like to explain this to me, and how it is a good thing? I see this as a superpower wanting to act on it's own without having to explain itself to anyone. (edit: officialy)
Ron Paul sees NATO and the UN as levels of government that exist beyond the government the American people chooses to have represent them, and that these levels of government, in which the American people have no true representation, can threaten to supercede the sovereignity of this country.
Ron Paul's clear conception of what our foreign policy should be (written books, actions as Congressman, etc.) suggests that it isn't in the interest of not being constrained by having to answer to other countries. Ron Paul favors free trade, for instance, but feels that it is the responsibility of Congress to manage trade, instead of an unelected level of government. The idea of an unelected level of government acting over the elected level of government is the idea that Ron Paul likely opposes most. This is evident when his view on the Federal Reserve is considered as well.
Ron Paul favors commerce and diplomacy with all nations, entanglements with none. The UN, or NAFTA, or the WTO, are entanglements that take away our ability to act in our own best interests. They tie our hands, and not in a way that prevents us from satisfying some desire to go spill blood wherever we wish. When the power of government is centralized away from the sovereignity of individual countries, the rights and voices of individuals, the people, will be further impeded.
For example, look at the War in Iraq. Most Americans want us out, they voted a majority of Democrats into Congress to try to effect that change, and now only one presidental candidate has said he can guarantee troops out of Iraq by 2013. Ron Paul wants the troops out as soon as the operation would take to occur after the orders are given. The further power is centralized out of the hands of the individual, the less capable individuals are of making and influencing decisions that effect the course of their lives. A majority of Americans can't snap their fingers and demand that we are out of the war of Iraq, do to the nature of bureaucracy and the limitations of our government's order, so how it will it be when the UN is making these decisions?
Ron Paul is for having an attitude of non-intervention, and this is in respect to the idea that Americans would probably not like to have foreign forces in our own nation, intervening in our economic and police affairs. Our relations with other nations should be dynamic and consciously-decided, through the framework of the Constitution, which gives the Congress authority over trade, over the decision to go to war. The Congress represents the people. These organizations supercede our sovereignity and render the Constitution powerless. What you will see if power continues to be centralized into world organizations is what you see in California, where the people of California have used their government to legalize medicinal marijuana, but yet the federal government has the authority (in this case, an unconstitutional authority) to supercede California law and arrest those who need it and those who provide it.
Of course, the matters will be much more serious than medicinal marijuana. For example, the UN drafting YOU to go fight in an African country agansit rebels creating a humanitarian crisis. You will have the least amount of representation in their making that decision ever.
The Constitution represents the best interest of the American people, and these organizations threaten to make the Constitution useless.
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ATM, i'm still pretty sceptical on Paul. He seems like a big chunky meatloaf tossed at a starving nation, but who brought that starve around to begin with? Altho, i'll stop there at the risk of sounding like some conspiracy theorist.
Not him. He became a politician, not to be a politician, but because he was deeply interested in studying economics, and he saw the decisions we were making, from removing the gold standard on our currency, to the existance of the Federal Reserve, as serious problems. Ron Paul isn't responsible for the debt resulting from federal spending, or for the inflation and valuelessness of our dollar, as he has been in Congress for ten terms acting agansit it. It is finally, when America is facing the consequences of all of this, that people have started to listen to him.
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For now, i'll join the ranks of "Paul, i hope you're for real" crowd.
Why don't you join the "I'm a fortunate individual who is sitting in front of the computer" crowd, and do some research.
There is a plethora of information out there for anyone interested that is easily-attainable. If you want to watch a video of Ron Paul speak out in Congress agansit the Iraqi War before Congress gave the authority to the President for it, then you can. If you want to read the bills he has introduced, if you want to see how he has voted, if you want to actually learn about an important subject and make informed conclusions and decisions, instead of sitting around and waiting for something to happen that needs your help in making it happen, then all you have to do is make it happen.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7709646 - 12/03/07 04:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The International Criminal Court wants to try American soldiers as war criminals. Now, an American soldier, enlisted or drafted, is simply following orders that its country puts upon it. Should an unelected level of government that is not bound by our Constitution punish American soldiers? The WTO and CAFTA would require doctor's prescriptions in order for Americans to buy vitamins and supplements.
The UN wants to directly tax us, American citizens.
The idea that these organizations are necessary for nations to work together, in the interest of all humanity, is a fallacy.
Each nation is sovereign, independent. Similarily, as our Constitution states, each individual is sovereign. Now, if our federal government passed a law that defined your relationships with other individuals, how would you feel? Wouldn't that impose upon our right to make your own decisions?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7709653 - 12/03/07 04:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've just got to say that I'm convinced the whole thing is a joke.
The elite already know who's going to be the nominees and who's going to be president.
And they've got all of us busy expending our time, money and energy thinking we actually have something to say about it.
If we want to change things, we simply need to change our own lives and how we spend our $.
How we spend our $ is the only true political power we have.
My research shows that the elite has already decided on Hilary, when she's elected maybe someone might look back on what I'm saying.
Just my 2 cent. Good luck Ron, I hope I'm proven wrong.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7709657 - 12/03/07 04:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: Ron Paul thinks that corporations will play nice if they unregulated, but he is living in a dream world.
Perhaps you don't understand how a free market works?
If people desire service provided to them in a certain matter over another (for example, wanting their Internet activity to not be imposed upon by the provider), then there would be incentive there for a provider to offer their services as the customers desired. I'd have to think that there would be more options for providers if the provider was not regulated.
Regulation places a bureaucracy over Internet Service Providers. We all know how politicians can't be corrupted. Regulation plays into the hands of these monopolies you speak out agansit. If ISP's were more subject to the forces of the free market, then ISP's would exist as the customers wanted them to exist, because the want's of the customer create incentive for the ISP to cater to their interests, because the potential for profit exists.
If an ISP wasn't regulated by the federal government, they would be more capable of competing agansit each other. Regulation simply means the government has more control over how you access the Internet.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
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Middleman said: The elite already know who's going to be the nominees and who's going to be president.
And how do they know this?
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If we want to change things, we simply need to change our own lives and how we spend our $.
If we want to change things, then we change things. You apparently do not see much of an avenue through which people can effect change in primary elections for President. Your beliefs limit your perception of the potential for change.
Answer my question regarding your belief, how do they know this, and we can talk about it from there.
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My research shows that the elite has already decided on Hilary, when she's elected maybe someone might look back on what I'm saying.
What constitutes your research?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7709663 - 12/03/07 05:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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From your previous posts it is obvious to me that it is your perception that is limited.
I'm not here to convince you of anything, I was just sharing my opinion.
Keep digging...
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7709664 - 12/03/07 05:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Middleman is right actually.. it's incredibly naive to think that this election hasn't already been decided. Politics is a huge distraction, another false idol meant to take away personal responsibility from fearful humans.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
#7709679 - 12/03/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ahh, of course, refer to an obvious conclusion that isn't obvious or evidenced, and avoid the responsibility of supporting your viewpoint.
Sharing an opinion is one thing, supporting it is another, and I don't see why anyone should consider your conspiracy theory about elites if you'd rather roll your eyes in a "oh my god someone actually wants to discuss in a discussion forum" manner and say nothing of value regarding the subject at hand.
Everyone else: Middleman chooses to not explain how elites can know and decide the outcome of an election that consists of individuals acrossed an entire country to vote before it happens.
Perhaps living in delusion, wherein elites cast your votes for you, feels comfortable. After all, then you don't have to assume responsibility for the role we all play in choosing our government.
To someone who doesn't pay attention, who doesn't know what actually happens in the campaign for a presidental election, or how the American political system works, I'm sure they see what they casually glance at on the television, and then, months later, see the outcome and wonder at the elite magic that makes an election happen. 
I mean, I'd love to go further in proposing a viewpoint wherein elites don't decide presidental elections, but the holder of that viewpoint isn't interested in the possibillity that elites don't actually decide presidental elections. I'm more than prepared to discuss the mainstream media and its role, for example, but who knows if Middleman's belief in elites deciding presidental elections consists of a role of the mainstream media.
I don't know why anyone would want to believe in elites voting for you. They must not know either, or perhaps they'd provide some information as to why they do.
Edit: Reply-to.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7709694 - 12/03/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: Middleman is right actually..
Oh, is he? How could he be right, if he hasn't explained how the elite play this role in presidental elections?
Why would we assume he is right if he can't show his work in reaching that conclusion?
Answer: We shouldn't. He isn't right. He gives us no reason to consider his opinion beyond the idea of it being an opinion. An unsupported opinion has zero relevance to reality.
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it's incredibly naive to think that this election hasn't already been decided.
Oh, why? Did the American people already vote and not tell me? Did the candidates who are already proclaimed to not have won not have enough delegates?
WHY is it incredibly naive to think that, by the way?
Any answer?
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Politics is a huge distraction, another false idol meant to take away personal responsibility from fearful humans.
Not ensuring that one is represented in government as one wishes to be represented is an avoidance of personal responsibility. These people will take away your rights as a human being unless you do something about it. See, what is essentially good for one human being is good for all human beings. Human beings naturally wish to be free, to exist within a social order that doesn't impose upon their freedom, that works for the good for all, and human beings will work together to make that happen, if they realize their ability to effect change.
I mean, some humans like to be fucked. They even like to dream that they aren't actually choosing to be fucked. 
Even if there are elites that are using their means to centralize power into their hands, they aren't deciding presidental elections. We are. This is why I asked Middleman how, because I have an undeniable response to what I suspect to be his answer regarding the flow of information, but why discuss when we can feel right?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7709730 - 12/03/07 06:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, I don't live in the U.S. and so I haven't got a clue about these guys, but I've got a question for you...
What is wrong with Obama? Isn't he the guy who inhaled?
or is it that it is so clear that Hillary is going to be the democrats candidate that Ron Paul is the best option even for those who aren't normally republican?
Just trying to understand
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Nibin]
#7709751 - 12/03/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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One of the biggest things wrong with Obama is that he has the attitude that our foreign policy right now, which isn't really that common in the history of America as a whole, is justified, in that he couldn't say, in the role of the President of the United States of America, the Commander In Chief of the military, that he guarantees the troops out of Iraq by 2013.
Obama likes to present himself as representing change in politics, but its clear with his stances on the issues that he wouldn't really be promoting any change. He is for the centralization of power away from American people. He has no real intention of controlling federal spending or lessening this country's debt. He's voted to use federal money to "protect" rural economies, even though it makes much more sense to not tax in the first place, and allow that money to stay in the rural economies. Duh!
He's voted agansit reduced federal spending and doesn't seem to think rating a program's effectiveness in order to assist budget cuts is a good idea, as he voted agansit it. He seems progressive on civil liberties, education, crime... but all signs look that he'd further the expanse and spending of the federal government, which is the worst thing that can happen with this country right now.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
#7710359 - 12/03/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey yanks, you all better vote for this guy, i'm sick and tired of the rest of the world being fucked over by americas war on drugs.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: druqs]
#7710495 - 12/03/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FYI to everyone. I love Ron paul and support him, but doubt he'll get the republican nomination. FIREWORKS_GOD disagrees with me.
I challenged him to a bet on that... saying the winner gets to pick the loser's avatar for a month.
He's too chicken to take me up on the bet. Everyone... heckle and peer pressure him until he submits!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: BrAiN]
#7710616 - 12/03/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My avatar decision-making cannot be influenced by entanglements stemming from my predictive views on the presidental primaries. 
I did, however, bet someone at work a breakfast that Ron Paul would get the nod from the Republicans. I just don't bet on avatars.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7710860 - 12/03/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think if you were a woman I'd propose to you.
I dunno what it is about well formulated political debate (idiot bashing) that amuses me so but good work.
As far as this election I'm just incredibly happy that I'm actually being able to chose the candidate I like more, not the one I hate less.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7711206 - 12/03/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vote Ron Paul... and tell your friends, family, and brother's uncle's sister to do so as well. He's the best hope for America. ~!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
#7711334 - 12/03/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Middleman said: From your previous posts it is obvious to me that it is your perception that is limited.
I'm not here to convince you of anything, I was just sharing my opinion.
Keep digging...
So you don't want to add anything except an insult and an opinion. Of course you won't back up that opinion.
Great, what a contribution
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7712203 - 12/03/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm aware of the theories that presidential elections are decided as much as 25 years in advance (and I am not disagreeing with them), but based on things like the mass media's reaction to Ron Paul and the massive uprise in political involvement/awareness that the Ron Paul campaign is creating I am still behind him 100%.
There is another aspect I am been thinking about. I wasn't around for it, but I have watched documentaries. John Lennon was also a man that many people backed with hopeful aspirations. He led a very large peace movement, especially among young people. When the CIA took John out using a brainwashed assassin, they kind of nipped it in the bud so to speak. The movement, while not being totally erased, was pushed underground - for they had no representative like John to speak for them. The people backing Ron Paul are a little different than the ones backing John Lennon. They are probably for peace, but I imagine (if they are like myself), that they are also pissed off at what is going on with the country and the world. If something does happen to Ron Paul, I don't think the movement will fizzle. As I have said in another post, it just may be a catalyst for the next revolution. The only thing that must occur is a larger distribution of on the truth of what is really going on to the masses of people that might be in the dark about it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
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Do some research. You'll see just how much the White House was opposed to John Lennon (right up the President).
John Lennon was also quoted as saying "If anything happens to me, it is not a mistake" not too long before he was assassinated. The CIA was bugging his apartments, following him in cars, etc If you've looked into it, I apologize. If not, well, you are what you are.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7712273 - 12/03/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive seen the US vs lennon (movie) but the CIA did not assassinate him in any way. You my friend are to high 
Give peace a chance was a nice idea but did nothing haha.
The hippy movement was a nice Idea but never worked.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7712340 - 12/03/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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A-ha fireworks_god, you're all fired up!.. and I love it! 
It's a terrible shame the lack of interest some people show for our political process. In fact, it's not even the lack of interest that bothers me so much, but the delusional complacency exhibited when someone resigns all of their potential influence to others because they're too damned lazy to stand up for what they believe in!

And another reminder to the rest of you eligible voters, primaries are fast approaching! As contrary to the popular youth opinion as affiliating yourself with the Republican party may be, if you believe in Ron Paul, that's exactly what you need to do -- and quickly!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7712570 - 12/03/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How can you be for internet regulation?
edit: from the first page, oops, lol, reading
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: xFrockx]
#7712592 - 12/03/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Internet should be free abortion should be the womens choice.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7713090 - 12/03/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ron Paul 2008!!!!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7713312 - 12/03/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: Internet should be free abortion should be the womens choice.
Big picture.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Jadian]
#7715948 - 12/04/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715958 - 12/04/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
So what?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715963 - 12/04/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7715970 - 12/04/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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wtf do you mean so what? Exactly what I just said, that's what.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7715979 - 12/04/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
Wow...
Amazing. But unless you make up a slickly edited video w/ a spooky soundtrack, well... I'm afraid I don't buy it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715985 - 12/04/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only about 10% of registered voters turn out for the primary.cite If all the Ron Paul supporters actually vote, he will win the nomination.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7716008 - 12/04/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
Wow...
Amazing. But unless you make up a slickly edited video w/ a spooky soundtrack, well... I'm afraid I don't buy it.
Why would bush make a law that makes him a dictator in war times if he was not going to use it pre 2008 elections.
Its just 9/11 all over again. Tell someone to tell someone else to bomb the usa and blame it on who ever you feel like.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7716014 - 12/04/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My state (California) had 31% of the Voting-Eligible-Population turning up in '04, and 40% in '00! 
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7716060 - 12/04/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Geokills, I think a good point to make is that in 04 there was a large speculation that there would be record-breaking voting numbers. This was due to unhappiness w/ Bush, the war, the patriot act, et cet, and likely encouraged a backlash response amongst republicans.
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The Committee for the Study of the American Electorate reported yesterday that more than 122 million people voted in the November election, a number that translates into the highest turnout -- 60.7 percent -- since 1968.
See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10492-2005Jan14.html
I think Paul will be more of a sleeper, especially in a primary. How much public awareness is there of Paul? Nowhere near the levels, even per likely voter, that spurred the turnout in 04.
While I make no prediction he'll win, the level of support coupled w/ a less-likely backlash than seen in recent elections, might allow his numbers to be inflated beyond what might have been thought possible.
It will be interesting!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7716069 - 12/04/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't rehash that coninuity of government plan crap. Have you actually read it? It doesn't make him a dictator, and it is self limiting. Read the damn thing as appropriate and look at news reports on it. You'll find its not what you believe.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
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Aliens are real. USA was responsible for 9/11
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SPAM FOR RON PAUL!... you know you want to :D [Re: geokills]
#7717076 - 12/04/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, here's a message I just sent out to 60 people that I more or less regularly correspond with... just thought I'd paste a copy here to encourage other Ron Paul supporters to compose their own or plagiarize mine (I won't mind!).
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Greetings friends and family, old and new!
If you feel that the federal government has been acting irresponsibly, by running our currency into the ground through rapidly rising debts, over-regulating American business, restricting free trade, over-stepping its constitutional authority by deciding issues that ought to be decided at the state level, intervening in foreign affairs that are none of our business, and offering suspect justification for making the federal government more powerful and bigger than ever... Well then, I strongly urge you to take a look at the political positions of Dr. Ron Paul, a Republican presidential candidate for the 2008 election.
Now I'm not saying - by ANY stretch of the imagination - that Dr. Paul is the perfect candidate, but I am most certainly leaning towards the position that he is the best suited candidate for positive change that is currently in the running for the 2008 election. I believe Ron Paul is capable of reducing government spending and working to eliminate failed or languishing government programs that don't serve to protect our people and instead hinder an efficiently run state.
If you are concerned about the direction our powerful country will take from here, even if you are an apathetic critic of the entire political process, I implore you to do your own due diligence by visiting www.RonPaul2008.com and in particular, reading his collection of essays in order to understand his stance on various hot topics. Indeed, you should be doing this for any candidate you are interested in - god forbid reliance on only network television and popular print media!
Essays by Dr. Paul: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles Political Positions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul Voting History: http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296 Inspirational Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
Take the time to educate yourself. I am especially interested to hear of your objections, so please don't hesitate to speak your thoughts!
And if you find yourself agreeing with this man's general principle, please consider affiliating yourself with the Republican Party NOW, so that you may show your support during the rapidly approaching presidential primary voting process. For a list of party change deadlines in your state, please visit: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/primary-and-caucus-information/
Remember, only a small percentage of the eligible voting population shows up for the primary elections. This is where the greatest potential for individual influence exists! So please register or re-register as a Republican today if you believe Ron Paul, with his unusually consistent voting history and desire for smaller government and free market capitalism, can help shake things up in our country for the better!
Thank you for your time, and I wish you all a Happy Holiday season,
PS. I encourage you to forward this message to your friends and family as well, if you wish!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7717954 - 12/04/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please give the tail-end of Libertariansim, Ythan.
It's a shit-wash on the economics--I mean, you want to fuck the poor in every category possible--sure, vote Libertarian.
Personal freedom is a hell of a lot different than national moral fiscal responsibility.
Fuck Ron Paul.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7717960 - 12/04/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
Your judgement is worth nothing without a line of reasoning for it... which you do not have.
Feeling certain about something that hasn't happened yet when you clearly know little about the primaries only makes yourself look foolish. At least I like to look less foolish by providing some information to consider in forming a viewpoint.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: GnuBobo]
#7717991 - 12/04/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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GnuBobo said: Personal freedom is a hell of a lot different than national moral fiscal responsibility.
And what of personal responsibility? Most individuals in this country are capable of providing for themselves, and they want to be enabled to do so, and they don't want the government taking away their sovereignity.
Federal, moral, fiscal responsibility is to eliminate the federal government's unnecessary expanse. It is horribly inefficent to operate a federal government like that, as individual state's are more capable of taking care of themselves as their rights are restored as states. Why take money out of an economy to give it back in subsidies? It makes no sense. We don't need the vast majority of the federal government.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7717997 - 12/04/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What is Paul's position on retarded and disabled people who can't work?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7718001 - 12/04/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Throw them to the wolves.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7718008 - 12/04/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: What is Paul's position on retarded and disabled people who can't work?
why should he have one?
Why is it the federal government's role to care for these folks? If a state wishes to socialize healthcare, let them.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7718011 - 12/04/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seriously, though, he still wants to help those who need help, but thinks that the majority of people that don't want the government to take their money to manage their retirement and medical care should be able to take care of their own money.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7719056 - 12/05/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fireworks_god said: Throw them to the wolves.
Pagans sent them into the woods to get eaten by wolves.
I think genetic engineering is helping out in this area.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7719123 - 12/05/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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 I suggest all of you folks who have no idea what you're talking about to read the above link, in full.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7719179 - 12/05/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That tie kicks ass.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7719371 - 12/05/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've said before that I love the guy and agree with him on more topics than the other candidates, but he has absolutely no chance of locking up the Republican primary. I'd love to see it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Redstorm]
#7719514 - 12/05/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just posted to your similar comments in a thread in the Politics forum, so, for the people here, I'll post that reply here as well.
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Two weeks ago, no one would have said that Huckabee would be leading the national polls. The only two candidates of the Republicans that are on an upward trend are Huckabee and Ron Paul.
I don't think Huckabee's lead is sustainable. His rise, however, will only allow for Ron Paul to rise as well. For one thing, Huckabee's mouth has been stealing lines from Ron Paul, which doesn't make what he is saying sound so fringe. Giuliani and Mitt Romney have only been holding those high percentages for two reasons - name recognition, and money, respectively.
Now, you have Huckabee leading the polls, and on what? It isn't name recognition, and it certainly isn't money.
Now, Ron Paul is raising more money than any other GOP candidate now, and he spends his money much more effectively. His valuable money is pouring into the first-state primaries, and so is his grass-roots support. He's getting his delegates in place. December is going to launch Ron Paul to the next level of his campaign. He's going to the top-tier, all the signs are there.
Giuliani is fading more and more every day, from reports of criminal cronies appointed, spending tax-payer money in the Hampton's, to his links to terrorists. Couple that with his increasing irrelevancy as he stays Bush's course (duh! no one will vote for that! ), and its good-bye Giuliani. Mitt Romney has been buying his poll numbers, but Huckabee is set to take Mitt Romney down, as he has him covered on everything.
Of course, Huckabee is fleeting. His tax-hike record and his controversies with letting rapists go to rape and murder stand agansit him. So does his lack of actual voter support. McCain has been suffocating, and Fred Thompson will become less relevant than he already is.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7719560 - 12/05/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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But the thing id, Huckabee isn't Paul. The two are completely different people. Huckabee has been a much more mainstream figure since candidates were beginning to enter.
The thing is with money is that it can't win you an election. Money at first is good because it offers the3 candidate the name recognition. After that, however, money (no matter how much is raised) has diminishing returns.
I'm not saying that the other candidates are solid; I'm just saying that no one has any hard evidence that Paul is going to shoot up in the polls like Huckabee did.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Redstorm]
#7719677 - 12/05/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My point is that there is a lot more information with which you can determine what is happening "before it happens" in the MSM. I haven't predicted that Huckabee was going to leap in the polls like that, but I haven't predicted that Ron Paul would, either. I had, however, noticed in the last couple weeks that Huckabee was gaining a lot of support in Iowa. The fact that he has been carried so far by that and a strong debate performance signifies a lot about how dynamic this race is. I think this speaks for the fact that politics are changing as those who are involved with politics are changing, as well as the reasons why. Ron Paul's support speaks for this.
Yes, Huckabee has been more mainstream, but that will work against him as well. He's gaining a lot of attention as everyone is focusing on him, to see if he's viable. The media has been flirting with Ron Paul a little before this, and they were surprised, interested, but a little too skeptical. They are quicker to support Huckabee because he is more mainstream, but Huckabee does not represent the people that the party needs to support the candidate they choose, if they wish to succumb by a take-over by the Democrats. The Republican party is only going to be severely hurt if they don't make it happen with the presidential elections, because it seems evident that the Democrats will take Congress with more grip.
Huckabee couldn't stand up for the Republicans and take down Hillary Clinton. Ron Paul could, because he has thirty years of a tight voting record and precedent for holding the stances he still holds today, and conveys his ideas in a way that resonates in the American people. Ron Paul tends to transcend the aspects of politics that the American people have been apathetic and now even angry about. Not only that, but his stances on the issues are the most reasonable and actually address the strongest concerns of the American people. Hillary Clinton, who loves to talk about her experience, doesn't really have any experience as an elected representative. A lot of people think she is too calculating and that she represents what they do not like about politics, and a lot of people will not vote for her in any circumstance. Her lead in the Democratic race has suffered recently.
Finally, I refer to his financial success both as a sign of support and also his ability to generate name recognition. His efforts in the last month to this end in the early-primary states and a little further ahead have been very effective. The prospects for this month are pretty solid, especially as they aren't looking so great for nearly everyone else he is running against.
The Republican Party has been trying to contain him, because they know the powerful effect he is having by spoiling the support for people like Giuliani, who they felt they could prop up. They've grabbed Huckabee now, but as Ron Paul's support makes its presence known on 12/16, and all of these efforts the official campaign and the grass-roots effort have been putting into the early primary states, they'll have no choice but to support him as their candidate, and they'll be so much better for it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7719846 - 12/05/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you are all forgetting one main point:
who owns the news stations. and who owns the papers and organizations that make the poll numbers.
where do you think these poll numbers come from?
they're not real. they're designed to sway the election and the votes.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7719915 - 12/05/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: you are all forgetting one main point:
who owns the news stations. and who owns the papers and organizations that make the poll numbers.
where do you think these poll numbers come from?
they're not real. they're designed to sway the election and the votes.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7719919 - 12/05/07 02:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: you are all forgetting one main point:
who owns the news stations. and who owns the papers and organizations that make the poll numbers.
where do you think these poll numbers come from?
they're not real. they're designed to sway the election and the votes.
You have no proof for any of this.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Redstorm]
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7720926 - 12/05/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
Your judgement is worth nothing without a line of reasoning for it... which you do not have.
Feeling certain about something that hasn't happened yet when you clearly know little about the primaries only makes yourself look foolish. At least I like to look less foolish by providing some information to consider in forming a viewpoint.
Ok buddy. The fact that you judged my response like that without knowing anything whatsoever about me just displays ignorance on your part. Not only that, but it's clearly evident that you will defend Paul to the death, even against people who blatantly state that they are FOR him. Talk about a closed minded fool. You can spend hours on here writing your ass off about how much you want to suck Paul's cock but that doesn't mean jack shit when it comes down to it. Here's what I know, FIRST HAND- Hardly anyone on my college campus even knows who Paul is, how do I know this? I'm the SGA President and we did a survey on voter awareness. Not only that, but the majority are straight up against the Republican party staying in office. This isn't only on my campus either, this is pretty much the consensus, which you would know if you spent more time outside and not on a message board full of Paul supporters.
I was going to continue on and provide statistics from various sources but I figured it would be useless, your head is obviously way too far up Paul's ass to see clearly. In fact all I'm going to do now is sit back, ignore your half witted attempts at a rebuttal, and after the primarys are all said and done I'll come back to this thread, say I told you so, and enjoy rubbing it in your face. But chances are you'll still be in denial. 
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7720947 - 12/05/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: you are all forgetting one main point:
who owns the news stations. and who owns the papers and organizations that make the poll numbers.
where do you think these poll numbers come from?
they're not real. they're designed to sway the election and the votes.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7721128 - 12/05/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7721500 - 12/05/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ythan, how much money would I have to donate to a charity for you to consider reseting my post count to one million posts?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: FecalDildo]
#7721559 - 12/05/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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$10,000, a penny per post. And it would have to be an approved charity. If you're still interested, PM me. 
P.S. I already gave a temp ban to one person for flaming in this thread. I know how easy it is to get riled up over politics but please keep it civil everyone.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7721608 - 12/05/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7722983 - 12/06/07 02:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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OH FUCK THIS IS GREAT, i'm going to donate to ron paul anyway and now that it can count towards this is fucking amazing!!! thanks ythan!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7723293 - 12/06/07 06:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: Ok buddy. The fact that you judged my response like that without knowing anything whatsoever about me just displays ignorance on your part.
Um... who you are isn't what is being discussed in this thread, so I don't think it really matters what I know about you.
What I do know, is what you have posted in this thread, the ideas and the manners in which you have expressed it, and your post existed as unsupported judgment. You haven't provided any sort of information that would provide a basis for this pessimistic outlook, or at least the starting point for comparing viewpoints.
I mean, clearly not everyone is interested in debating everything, but if an opinion is unsupported, anyone is free to come along and point it out for all to see.
So... yes, I guess I am very ignorant of anything about who you are, beyond someone who likes to say "oh, let's be serious, this candidate stands a chance", without actually providing any information that would lead one to conclude that. Since knowing anything about who you are hasn't the slightest relevance to this discussion, I fail to understand what your point is.
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Not only that, but it's clearly evident that you will defend Paul to the death, even against people who blatantly state that they are FOR him.
So... what you are saying... is that I am enthused about the subject at hand and am very active in pursuing discussion regarding said subject?
Okay... still not sure what you are getting at.
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Talk about a closed minded fool.
Hhhm... someone who addresses an unsupported opinion and who seeks lively discussion of actual ideas is close-minded, and a fool? To dare challenge and propose alternate viewpoints and to engage in communication, through which information is exchanged, hardly seems close-minded or foolish to me.
Maybe its just easier for you to pass along your perspective on something as lazy as possible and avoid any real discussion by calling other people names? I'm not going to speculate as to your intentions - after all, I know absolutely nothing about who you are.
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You can spend hours on here writing your ass off about how much you want to suck Paul's cock but that doesn't mean jack shit when it comes down to it.
Yes, I'm sure spending a lot of time talking about sucking Ron Paul's cock wouldn't really mean anything when you really think about it.
I really like where you're going with this post.
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Here's what I know, FIRST HAND- Hardly anyone on my college campus even knows who Paul is, how do I know this? I'm the SGA President and we did a survey on voter awareness. Not only that, but the majority are straight up against the Republican party staying in office.
I'm sure your survey turned this up. Of course, you haven't mentioned how many people were surveyed, when you surveyed, your state...
If anything, I think the fact that barely anyone on your college campus knew who Ron Paul was, and they would make baseless, generalized conclusions like "Bush Republican. Bush bad. Republican bad. No more Republican.", speaks against the involvement of their SGA to encourage the involvement of the campus in extremely important government decisions. As their President, you must be appalled.
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This isn't only on my campus either, this is pretty much the consensus,
The consensus among whom, exactly?
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which you would know if you spent more time outside and not on a message board full of Paul supporters.
I'm glad that, even though I know absolutely nothing about your personal life, you seem to know everything about mine.
I must have missed the headline about your SGA survey. I'm not sure how you would expect anyone beyond an incredibly small minority of individuals to have been aware of it.
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I was going to continue on and provide statistics from various sources but I figured it would be useless, your head is obviously way too far up Paul's ass to see clearly.
You mean, you were going to actually contribute some information to this thread?
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In fact all I'm going to do now is sit back, ignore your half witted attempts at a rebuttal, and after the primarys are all said and done I'll come back to this thread, say I told you so, and enjoy rubbing it in your face. But chances are you'll still be in denial. 
Oh darn.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7723327 - 12/06/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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50,000 Facebook members of Ron Paul's group, with 375 chapters, organizing thousands of events acrossed the nation.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7723368 - 12/06/07 07:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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He'll be a forgotten joke this time next year.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: FecalDildo]
#7723408 - 12/06/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Even if he dropped into nothingness tomorrow, he's still had quite the impact on politics. He's accomplished some unprecedented feats and serves to express a transformation in politics, due to the Internet and what will happen when a quality man stands before the American people and talks honestly, from a very solid background. The grass-roots movement for Ron Paul has been amazing.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7724519 - 12/06/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: Hardly anyone on my college campus even knows who Paul is, how do I know this? I'm the SGA President and we did a survey on voter awareness. Not only that, but the majority are straight up against the Republican party staying in office. This isn't only on my campus either, this is pretty much the consensus, which you would know if you spent more time outside and not on a message board full of Paul supporters.
"Ron Paul signs all over the campus"
Maybe your campus doesn't have them but others definitely do. Maybe you should make some signs.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7724617 - 12/06/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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VOTE MIKE HUKABEE! According to him "Gay marriage will end civilization."
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7724627 - 12/06/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: VOTE MIKE HUKABEE! According to him "Gay marriage will end civilization."
Oddly enough, a positive perspective on homosexuality and gay marriage is that it might be a solution to overpopulation. Is Gay a gift from God? 
To post below: So not only would they reduce the population by not having a child, they are also helping children that don't have any parents. Win win.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7724638 - 12/06/07 01:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gay people still like babys.
I say the world needs a mass bio terror attack to reduce the population.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7736915 - 12/09/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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WScottsdale said:
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Innominate said: Hardly anyone on my college campus even knows who Paul is, how do I know this? I'm the SGA President and we did a survey on voter awareness. Not only that, but the majority are straight up against the Republican party staying in office. This isn't only on my campus either, this is pretty much the consensus, which you would know if you spent more time outside and not on a message board full of Paul supporters.
"Ron Paul signs all over the campus"
Maybe your campus doesn't have them but others definitely do. Maybe you should make some signs.
This is what I like to hear!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Xeluc]
#7739544 - 12/10/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ron Paul will never become president
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: spun]
#7739839 - 12/10/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the useless comment.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7740245 - 12/10/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The common areas in my town are littered with signs that say "Single? Visit our dating website..."
I have been taking them and printing out Ron Paul stuff and redeploying them in my neighborhood.
Gets rid of the litter and puts something useful in its place.
I also gave him some money the other day and I have to be honest, a supporter account is really awesome for someone like me who is into mushroom photography. All the pictures now show up full size without having to click on each one. I am going to give $100 on the 16th, get my supporter account for a couple years.
I also donated to NORML, DRCNET, MPP and the Drug Policy Alliance this morning.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7740497 - 12/10/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good man. I got my Grammie to kick down $200 for Ron Paul yesterday when we went out to lunch!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7740989 - 12/10/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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taking advantage of old people
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: spun]
#7741100 - 12/10/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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spun said: Ron Paul will never become president
Probably not, but its worth all the effort needed.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
#7741378 - 12/10/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heh, I wasn't taking advantage of the ol' lady! We were having a political discussion over lunch and I had mentioned that I'd donated a couple hundred dollars myself over the past few weeks. It wasn't until many hours later that my grandma asked me how she could donate for herself.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7745062 - 12/11/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's all good; I was just fuckin around. It is good to see so much support for him though.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: roquet]
#7751896 - 12/12/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are confusing the meaning of conservative- Ron Paul is a liberal in the classical sense. Just like Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, George Washington, et al. They are products of the enlightenment, small government pro-*liberty* humanists. Liberty as in Liberal.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: moho456]
#7755124 - 12/13/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just donated $10. Go Ron Paul!!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: RobMarley420]
#7758125 - 12/14/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Vote for Ron Paul, and maybe you could make a thread like this.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: abesh]
#7759236 - 12/14/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RON PAUL, FTW!!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: ewikk055]
#7765206 - 12/16/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Today is the day!
http://www.teaparty07.com/
Celebrate the Boston Tea Party by making a contribution to a real American Hero! I just dropped $50.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: circularvortex]
#7765577 - 12/16/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, today is the day.
but still, he's not mentioned on any corporate news channels. his name is omitted from all of the polls, his votes go under "other."
they'll do a story on "wow, look at all of the money he raised." and then they'll not speak of him again, just like last time.
I wish there was a news channel not owned by the coroprate interests. when CNBC aske who won the last debate, the voters of the poll overwhelmingly siad Dr. Paul dominated, they didn't like that answer, so they just took the poll down. The news channels are against Ron Paul, and anyone with half a brain can see this.
Whether you want to admit it or not, those news channels decide the outcome of the election. Those poll numbers they fabricate sway the populous to vote based on them.
Wouldn't I love to be proved wrong.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7765588 - 12/16/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the news channels may ignore him... but when you start waving 20 million dollars in airtime in the tv channels in ioaw and NH.. they'll definately take your money and show the ads to those who are voting next month.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: BrAiN]
#7765628 - 12/16/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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BrAiN said: the news channels may ignore him... but when you start waving 20 million dollars in airtime in the tv channels in ioaw and NH.. they'll definately take your money and show the ads to those who are voting next month.
thank god money still talks somewhere. I've donated several times now, so don't get me wrong. But I'm realistic here. Talk to folks around the country like I do, and they'll say "who?" Then the next statement from every one of them after I explain is, "He's not even in the polls, I'm not going to vote for someone that's not in the polls, that would just be wasting my vote on a loser. I'll vote for whoever I think is best out of the poll leaders, somebody that actually has a shot at winning."
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7765633 - 12/16/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea people still don't know who he is... but they WILL if it gets to the point where all these LATE PRIMARY states even matter cuz Paul will have enough money probably for ads.
I bought a Ron Paul bumper sticker for that purpose here in Maryland.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: BrAiN]
#7765670 - 12/16/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I signed up to distribute road signs and to go door to door handing out information...
but they haven't sent me anything. I want to help for sure, and I'm willing to work my ass off to do it.
Do I have to buy the signs and stuff? I was under the impression they would send it to me to hand out.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7765744 - 12/16/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I signed up about three weeks ago checking off the boxes for volunteering.. and haven't heard anything. So after a week of silence, I just went to their store and purchased a couple hundred fliers, stickers, and signs, and aim to take care of it myself. You could probably email them stating that you've already donated and would like some promotional material to help spread the word, but like you I have also donated on multiple ocassions, and didn't mind throwing down some extra dough for the promotional material. So far as I see it, it's for a worthy cause.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7765813 - 12/16/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, I'll probably just buy some stuff.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7767925 - 12/16/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: thank god money still talks somewhere. I've donated several times now, so don't get me wrong. But I'm realistic here. Talk to folks around the country like I do, and they'll say "who?" Then the next statement from every one of them after I explain is, "He's not even in the polls, I'm not going to vote for someone that's not in the polls, that would just be wasting my vote on a loser. I'll vote for whoever I think is best out of the poll leaders, somebody that actually has a shot at winning."
This post and the post of yours is tired old rhetoric. Nothing agansit you personally, but its so scripted that its obvious its just the attitude that the mainstream media presents, and not the nature of reality. These polls measure name recognition first and foremost, amongst a small sample of people. Name recognition can change overnight. Look at Huckabee. There is nothing that is really keeping Ron Paul from being the front-runner.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7768454 - 12/17/07 07:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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oh, so you're telling me the corporate owned media is unbiased?
yeah, you keep on believing that. I can't believe you're serious.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7768595 - 12/17/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: oh, so you're telling me the corporate owned media is unbiased?
yeah, you keep on believing that. I can't believe you're serious.
If you really meant to reply to the last post, you completely misunderstood what he was trying to say.
He's wrong anyway, but what you said had nothing to do with the reason.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Madtowntripper]
#7768778 - 12/17/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I said what I meant to say. I understand his point, he states that the corporate (mainstream) media is unbiased. That they report poll numbers on people who's name is recognizable, and that if Ron Paul's name becomes recognizable, he'd show up in the polls too. They don't have bias between candidates, they just poll a few folks, who give honest answers, and they honestly report those answers. Saying basically the media is unbiased and honest.
Which is so far from the truth it's not even funny.
if you're so smart though, why don't you tell us why you're right, I have no idea what I'm talking about, and he's wrong?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7768925 - 12/17/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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From Ronpaul2008.com:
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Ron Paul Raises $6 Million in One Day (12/17/07)
Candidate has most successful fundraising day in American political history
ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA -- Congressman Ron Paul’s presidential campaign had a record fundraising day yesterday.
In a 24-hour period on December 16, the campaign raised $6.026 million dollars, surpassing the one-day record of $5.7 million held by John Kerry.
During the day, over 58,000 people contributed to Dr. Paul’s campaign, including 24,940 first-time donors. Over 118,000 Americans have donated to the campaign in the fourth quarter. The $6 million one-day total means the campaign has raised over $18 million this quarter, far exceeding its goal of $12 million.
"We have the right message: freedom, peace and prosperity," said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "We also have the right candidate: Dr. Ron Paul."
Congressman Paul will be campaigning in Iowa today and will be holding a press conference at 12:45 pm at the Des Moines Marriott in the Des Moines Room.
Thanks for all that contributed, especially yesterday! Largest single day political contribution in US history should certainly get some attention.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7772772 - 12/18/07 03:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: oh, so you're telling me the corporate owned media is unbiased?
yeah, you keep on believing that. I can't believe you're serious.
No, I'm not telling you that, because every source of information, yourself included, is biased. The question is to what extent they are biased, and the nature of the bias that they hold. Some media is less biased than other media, and some media is slanted to one extreme, whereas another is slanted towards another.
My point is that none of the mainstream media is biased to the extent that they orchestrate the race. There still has to be a story, and there is always going to be facts to the story. My secondary point was that the media cannot contain Ron Paul, and that they have to cover him, and that the nature of the context in which they place him will change as the race changes. It already has changed, and it is still changing. They cannot keep saying he doesn't have a chance when he places well in early primaries and as his standings in the polls increase. I recall one newspaper that printed that Eisenhower lost before the results were in, and Eisenhower had actually won. The mainstream media cannot dictate reality, and there is only a limited margin in which they can distort reality.
My main point was that your whole post was completely unoriginal thought. Anyone can parrot tired old rhetoric. It isn't your fault, I wasn't holding it agansit you personally, I was simply calling a spade a spade. The fact that this perspective you propagated was reflective of the race two-three months ago suggests how much has happened that you have missed.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: circularvortex]
#7772776 - 12/18/07 03:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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circularvortex said: Thanks for all that contributed, especially yesterday! Largest single day political contribution in US history should certainly get some attention.
It didn't get too much attention. Michael Bloomberg and John McCain receiving an endorsement from Joe Lieberman received much more coverage. The largest single-day political contribution in US history will receive a lot more effective use, as money, than attention it will generate. Vying for media attention like this is folly, but the money has a greater purpose.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7772797 - 12/18/07 04:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: I understand his point, he states that the corporate (mainstream) media is unbiased.
I didn't state that; no, you do not understand my point. See previous post.
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That they report poll numbers on people who's name is recognizable, and that if Ron Paul's name becomes recognizable, he'd show up in the polls too.
These polls are slanted agansit Ron Paul, but it has nothing to do with specific bias agansit Ron Paul. The nature of these polls have always been this way. These polls offer a limited view of a candidate's support, and exaggerates others, as they are based on name-recognition, but the simple fact is that, regardless, that is the candidate that they would vote for at that time. It might be a very limited viewpoint, but it still shows a representation.
The fact that Ron Paul has doubled his standings in these polls in the last month suggests that, as he has become more recognizable, he has increased in the polls. I think that, alone, disproves the unoriginal rhetoric you are propagating.
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if you're so smart though, why don't you tell us why you're right, I have no idea what I'm talking about, and he's wrong?
I've already demonstrated that the media isn't standing agansit Ron Paul. Ron Paul does receive favorable coverage in the media. The simple fact is that the media has limited measures of support, and these measures naturally slant agansit Ron Paul's support, by their nature (not intent), and this is why he doesn't receive as much coverage.
The fact is, it isn't about coverage right now. It is about campaigning, and Ron Paul's movement transcends these misconceptions of the mainstream media's influence. The fact remains that the race hasn't really even begun yet. Ron Paul has a very strategic standing right now that will play out to his favor, and not a lot of other candidates can say that. Apparently you fell asleep six months ago.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7774964 - 12/18/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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not to get off topic here, but is the fund raiser just for donations or does purchasing yard sings through his web site count as well?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: iateshaggy]
#7775002 - 12/18/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Monstermitch, you're pretty much right about the corporate polls and standings. I've looked at multiple ones and ron paul's name is nowhere to even be found. He'd make a great president but as of now he doesn't stand a chance in hell. Which doesn't make sense because he raised so much money via the internet and it seems like he has a pretty big following 
These things definitely sway public opinion and votes.
I think I got my hopes up too fast about this guy, it was too good to be true. I was naive enough to think the US would allow such a cool president to get in office.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7775029 - 12/18/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ron Paul on Glenn beck right now!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Chemy]
#7775046 - 12/18/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chemy said: Ron Paul on Glenn beck right now!
Thanks
Do I have great timing or what 
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
#7775396 - 12/18/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Omni said: I think I got my hopes up too fast about this guy, it was too good to be true. I was naive enough to think the US would allow such a cool president to get in office.
You do realize that the race for the nomination has really just begun, don't you?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7775436 - 12/18/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I watched about 3 hours of news coverage today on 3 different channels. Most all of the talk was about the Republican race. I did see some stuff on Hillary, Bill, Magic and good ole G. Bush. But most of the talk was about the Republicans.
Never heard the words "Ron Paul." Not a single time.
I sure hope his grassroots campaign is having an effect, but if you were to ask the media, they'd tell you he's not even considered a contender....
I'm still hitting the streets again tomorrow though. I'm passing out a bunch of stuff and trying to get people to educate themselves. I'll be damned to just watch this chance go by, however pessimistic I am.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Chemy]
#7775895 - 12/18/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chemy said: Did you see Ron Paul on Glenn Beck tonight? Great show, a whole hour dedicated to Ron!
One thing infuriated me, supposed RP supporters threatening Glenn Beck?
Ya WTF was that about. I tried to find that video, but no luck. Glenn said it was on the internet.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: abesh]
#7776406 - 12/19/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does voting really have an effect on the outcome? Look at the extent of corruption in our gov. I cannot believe that the voting process isn't just as fucked. It might be to the extent that they have people under the influence of the mind control technology IN PLACE to vote for who they want in office but either way 'Don't believe in the system to legalize or give you your freedom. You want rights, ask them to read 'em.'-Spearhead
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7778195 - 12/19/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I heard something about him yesterday. Not sure what channel he was on, but they mentioned him and the tea party thing for a fair amount of time.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: bukujutsu]
#7781112 - 12/20/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FUCK THE FEDS IN THEIR TIGHT ASSHOLES! www.educate-yourself.org Ron Paul is not your friend, none of them are, an if he is there is no way in this hell he will make it into office. Wake the fuck up.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: symbiotic]
#7781145 - 12/20/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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symbiotic said: FUCK THE FEDS IN THEIR TIGHT ASSHOLES! www.educate-yourself.org Ron Paul is not your friend, none of them are, an if he is there is no way in this hell he will make it into office. Wake the fuck up.
Let me be the first to point out how much bullshit is on this website.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: symbiotic]
#7781197 - 12/20/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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symbiotic said: FUCK THE FEDS IN THEIR TIGHT ASSHOLES! www.educate-yourself.org Ron Paul is not your friend, none of them are, an if he is there is no way in this hell he will make it into office. Wake the fuck up.
why don't you explain your position? People coming in and giving an unsuported opinion (no a top-level URL doesn't count, I'm not going to read an entire site) isn't helpful to anyone. Maybe it makes you feel better, but explain why Paul isn't friendly to my beliefs. Explain why he's not helpful if he doesn't make it to office?
A candidate such as him allready catching 10% in traditional polls in some areas at this stage is certainly an effect, and not because of the chances that candidate will make it to the presidency, but for the indication of how many "traditional republican voters" one can reach without much money or media time.
People agreeing w/ the mans position clearly exist. THis is good news
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: symbiotic]
#7781219 - 12/20/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: symbiotic]
#7781234 - 12/20/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7781339 - 12/20/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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monstermitch said: I watched about 3 hours of news coverage today on 3 different channels. Most all of the talk was about the Republican race. I did see some stuff on Hillary, Bill, Magic and good ole G. Bush. But most of the talk was about the Republicans.
Never heard the words "Ron Paul." Not a single time.
I sure hope his grassroots campaign is having an effect, but if you were to ask the media, they'd tell you he's not even considered a contender....
I'm still hitting the streets again tomorrow though. I'm passing out a bunch of stuff and trying to get people to educate themselves. I'll be damned to just watch this chance go by, however pessimistic I am.
i agree i have been watching the news every night for months and the only place i have seen his name was here and once a few days ago on the yahoo (if you clicked on a link for poll standings)
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7782021 - 12/20/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love how the media just lost it when Don Black donated...
It does not matter what sorta free speech you are trying to protect...its still free speech.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7786199 - 12/21/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ron Paul just got about 3 minutes on the CBS evening news!
this is great, I hope it continues.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7786745 - 12/21/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RP is the man! He is a TRUE republican. Not some fake-ass neocon.
Real republicans should have shit their pants at how much money is being spent on war.
Real republicans should have shit their pants when the Income Tax was invented and should have ended it when it was proven to be an ILLEGAL SYSTEM that was never legally ratified as an amendment.
Real republicans would never have voted for anyone like George Bush simply based on his business track record and spending habbits.
Modern Republicans are not true republicans. Republicans are not suppose to believe in POLICING THE WORLD but they do while the Dems want to POLICE THE STATES. Hilary was the Lap Dog of of WALMART and helped cover up illegal anti-union actions on Wal-Mart's behalf. . . she now represents the Party of Unions. Bill and Hilary are the "Good Cop" Globilization Poster Children.
Anyone that believes Ron Paul is the choice of his fellow republican party members already elected needs to fucking learn to read. Seriously.
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One of his first letters was to the American people apologizing for voting for the Patriot Act and explained a bit about the way that laws are written and passed which opened my eyes to the fact that the people in Government are BLINDLY LEADING and DO NOT READ ANYTHING THEY VOTE ON BUT MERELY VOTE WITH THEIR PARTY. Either that or the vote the way they're paid to vote by their "constituants".
Ron Paul is also the representative of the area in Texas I'm from. He was my cousin's natal doctor and delivered her more than 30 years ago.
Ron Paul IS NOT A SELL OUT and HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.
If Our elections weren't rigged I'm sure he would win. Since they are rigged however Clinton is going to win and the world will end a little sooner than if Ron Paul won. Or maybe perhaps Obama will win.
I'm really pessemistic about America because quite frankly the 'dream' is over people the damage has been done and even if Ron Paul wins the world is still fucked.
Fingers crossed that I'm wrong. (jaded and burned out in tx)
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: drwatson]
#7792553 - 12/23/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't want to come across as a debbie downer.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7795171 - 12/24/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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johnm214 writes:
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A candidate such as him allready catching 10% in traditional polls in some areas at this stage...
This is the most comprehensive aggregate database of reputable polling organizations to be found anywhere on teh intratubes, with links to the original of every single poll they list, so you can peruse the internals of each and every one to your heart's content.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/republican_primaries.html
I don't see too many instances where Paul is over even 5%, let alone 10%.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Phred]
#7795627 - 12/24/07 01:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, you seem to be wright
oh well, I don't think its a stretch to think he'll get 10% of the vote in some states, but who knows. Depends on how big that group of folks who haven't voted rep. before, and who don't have phones, turn out to be
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7795893 - 12/24/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How much is a name change?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#7795898 - 12/24/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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QuantumMeltdown said: How much is a name change?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: monstermitch]
#7796156 - 12/24/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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will my old one still be reserved if I decide to change back?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
#7801546 - 12/26/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just to assuage everyone's fears: I love Ron Paul. I would happily jack him off at a fundraiser if he so desired.
PS--THX 4 teh ban.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: GnuBobo]
#7802027 - 12/26/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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GnuBobo said: Just to assuage everyone's fears: I love Ron Paul. I would happily jack him off at a fundraiser if he so desired.
PS--THX 4 teh ban.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
#7807963 - 12/28/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i donated 10 dollars online back in october. i don't expect to be compensated for it, just showing my ron paul support and hope others follow
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: moon_glue]
#7808598 - 12/28/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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got a big check coming in around the 1st, gonna send a lil bit of it his way
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: ChromeCrow]
#7809168 - 12/28/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Iowa needs to get off their asses for the time is coming and we need to get Ron Paul thrust head first into this thing, I'm ready to see a headline simular to "Truman defeats Dewey!" come this next year! Everyone should sign up for a volunteer account @ ronpaul2008.com spread the word(and the love)..later! Let's go IOWA!
JCLE
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FunkBuddha
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: JewelessCaesar]
#7811216 - 12/29/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FYI, the folks over at www.ronpaulforums.com are organizing a massive boycott of Fox affiliates advertisers. Fox News has decided to exclude Dr. Paul from their forum on January 6th even though he is out-fund-raising and out-polling some of the attendeees.
If you can help out, we'd appreciate it. Just get a list of advertisers for your local affiliate and call them up and let them know what's going on. We've had good success so far.
Thanks, FunkBuddha
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JewelessCaesar
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Registered: 05/26/06
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: FunkBuddha]
#7826467 - 01/03/08 05:18 AM (16 years, 29 days ago) |
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December 29, 2007
The Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary are only a few days away. Wyoming, Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida and Maine will soon follow. But on February 5th, nearly 20 other states will hold their contests on the same day! That's right. In just six short weeks, the Republican nominee for president will likely be determined.
As Wikipedia explains: "In the Spring of 2007, upwards of 20 states with over half the delegates to the national conventions moved to change their primary dates to 5 February 2008, creating the largest 'Super Tuesday' to date. Newswriters and political pundits have noted that this will dwarf the Super Tuesday primaries in previous cycles, creating a 'Giga Tuesday' or 'Super Duper Tuesday.'"
A year's worth of work is coming down to the next several weeks. Victory can be ours. But we must triple our efforts and triple the amount of money raised right away.
To run radio and television ads in 20 states simultaneously will cost a fortune. Not to mention the cost of voter contact mailings to those 20 states. And then there is the cost of contacting hundreds of thousands of people by phone. All of this, plus other projects, will cost $23 million more than we presently have in the bank.
The progress we've made in 11 months is phenomenal. The dedication, creativity, generosity, and just plain hard work by you and tens of thousands of other Americans have already made history.
But we are not finished making history! First, Ron Paul becomes the Republican nominee. Second, Dr. Paul becomes President Paul. Third, our country becomes America again.
The time is now. Please make your most generous donation today. https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
Sincerely,
Kent Snyder Chairman, Ron Paul 2008
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Xeluc
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: JewelessCaesar]
#7831616 - 01/04/08 11:18 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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monstermitch
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Xeluc]
#7831700 - 01/04/08 11:49 AM (16 years, 28 days ago) |
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well 10% is better than nothing. but it's just about exactly what I expected.
I'm hoping for a 3rd place finish maybe in NH.
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