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johnm214



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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Middleman]
#7711334 - 12/03/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Middleman said: From your previous posts it is obvious to me that it is your perception that is limited.
I'm not here to convince you of anything, I was just sharing my opinion.
Keep digging...
So you don't want to add anything except an insult and an opinion. Of course you won't back up that opinion.
Great, what a contribution
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7712203 - 12/03/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm aware of the theories that presidential elections are decided as much as 25 years in advance (and I am not disagreeing with them), but based on things like the mass media's reaction to Ron Paul and the massive uprise in political involvement/awareness that the Ron Paul campaign is creating I am still behind him 100%.
There is another aspect I am been thinking about. I wasn't around for it, but I have watched documentaries. John Lennon was also a man that many people backed with hopeful aspirations. He led a very large peace movement, especially among young people. When the CIA took John out using a brainwashed assassin, they kind of nipped it in the bud so to speak. The movement, while not being totally erased, was pushed underground - for they had no representative like John to speak for them. The people backing Ron Paul are a little different than the ones backing John Lennon. They are probably for peace, but I imagine (if they are like myself), that they are also pissed off at what is going on with the country and the world. If something does happen to Ron Paul, I don't think the movement will fizzle. As I have said in another post, it just may be a catalyst for the next revolution. The only thing that must occur is a larger distribution of on the truth of what is really going on to the masses of people that might be in the dark about it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7712232 - 12/03/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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WScottsdale said: When the CIA took John out using a brainwashed assassin
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7712254 - 12/03/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do some research. You'll see just how much the White House was opposed to John Lennon (right up the President).
John Lennon was also quoted as saying "If anything happens to me, it is not a mistake" not too long before he was assassinated. The CIA was bugging his apartments, following him in cars, etc If you've looked into it, I apologize. If not, well, you are what you are.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: WScott]
#7712273 - 12/03/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive seen the US vs lennon (movie) but the CIA did not assassinate him in any way. You my friend are to high 
Give peace a chance was a nice idea but did nothing haha.
The hippy movement was a nice Idea but never worked.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: fireworks_god]
#7712340 - 12/03/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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A-ha fireworks_god, you're all fired up!.. and I love it! 
It's a terrible shame the lack of interest some people show for our political process. In fact, it's not even the lack of interest that bothers me so much, but the delusional complacency exhibited when someone resigns all of their potential influence to others because they're too damned lazy to stand up for what they believe in!

And another reminder to the rest of you eligible voters, primaries are fast approaching! As contrary to the popular youth opinion as affiliating yourself with the Republican party may be, if you believe in Ron Paul, that's exactly what you need to do -- and quickly!
[Click Here to Register or Re-Register to Vote today!] [Primary and Caucus Deadlines by State]
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7712570 - 12/03/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How can you be for internet regulation?
edit: from the first page, oops, lol, reading
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: xFrockx]
#7712592 - 12/03/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Internet should be free abortion should be the womens choice.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7713090 - 12/03/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ron Paul 2008!!!!!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7713312 - 12/03/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: Internet should be free abortion should be the womens choice.
Big picture.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Jadian]
#7715948 - 12/04/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715958 - 12/04/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Innominate said: I like Ron Paul, and I would like him to win, but let's be serious for a moment here- he doesn't stand a chance. That's the reality of it. Anyone who thinks other wise is just fooling themselves and setting themselves up for a big let down come primary time.
So what?
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715963 - 12/04/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7715970 - 12/04/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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wtf do you mean so what? Exactly what I just said, that's what.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7715979 - 12/04/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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F1234K said: I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
Wow...
Amazing. But unless you make up a slickly edited video w/ a spooky soundtrack, well... I'm afraid I don't buy it.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Innominate]
#7715985 - 12/04/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only about 10% of registered voters turn out for the primary.cite If all the Ron Paul supporters actually vote, he will win the nomination.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
#7716008 - 12/04/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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johnm214 said:
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F1234K said: I think he stands more of a chance then people think. Look how much money he raised on guy faux day....
But what do I no. There will be a strike against the usa that will be blamed on iran before the 2008 elections. Bush will attack Iran officially making him a dictator and voiding all elections until the war is over which like the viet nam war will not be won but sustained for money and for invasion of US citizens privacys.
Wow...
Amazing. But unless you make up a slickly edited video w/ a spooky soundtrack, well... I'm afraid I don't buy it.
Why would bush make a law that makes him a dictator in war times if he was not going to use it pre 2008 elections.
Its just 9/11 all over again. Tell someone to tell someone else to bomb the usa and blame it on who ever you feel like.
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Ythan]
#7716014 - 12/04/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My state (California) had 31% of the Voting-Eligible-Population turning up in '04, and 40% in '00! 
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: geokills]
#7716060 - 12/04/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Geokills, I think a good point to make is that in 04 there was a large speculation that there would be record-breaking voting numbers. This was due to unhappiness w/ Bush, the war, the patriot act, et cet, and likely encouraged a backlash response amongst republicans.
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The Committee for the Study of the American Electorate reported yesterday that more than 122 million people voted in the November election, a number that translates into the highest turnout -- 60.7 percent -- since 1968.
See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10492-2005Jan14.html
I think Paul will be more of a sleeper, especially in a primary. How much public awareness is there of Paul? Nowhere near the levels, even per likely voter, that spurred the turnout in 04.
While I make no prediction he'll win, the level of support coupled w/ a less-likely backlash than seen in recent elections, might allow his numbers to be inflated beyond what might have been thought possible.
It will be interesting!
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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
#7716069 - 12/04/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't rehash that coninuity of government plan crap. Have you actually read it? It doesn't make him a dictator, and it is self limiting. Read the damn thing as appropriate and look at news reports on it. You'll find its not what you believe.
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