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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7706898 - 12/02/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sarcasm? or your actually for internet censorship?


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
    #7706932 - 12/02/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's not internet censorship.

Ever heard of net neutrality?

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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
    #7706933 - 12/02/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

+1


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7706945 - 12/02/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A non-neutral net is exactly what we don't need. Do you keep up with tech news at all?

If you use comcast, like I do, have you noticed your bittorrent traffic is fucked? Well under Ron Paul, ISP's can shape your traffic however they want. That includes completely blocking all BT traffic (or any service for that matter,) or using a tiered system.

Fuck that.

Ron Paul thinks that corporations will play nice if they unregulated, but he is living in a dream world.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7706951 - 12/02/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am against any forms of internet censorship.

No need to get all mad about shit.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: F1234K]
    #7706959 - 12/02/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, sorry I'm pretty emo.

But I'm against all forms of internet censorship as well, which is why I will be voting for Obama.

He put out a technology proposal, if you're interested in your freedoms online, look into it.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7706973 - 12/02/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmmm looks like I'm going to have to do some more research so I'll know who to vote for when the time comes....

It's between Paul and Obama for me, but I just don't know which one would make a better president. We'll see who makes it as final Dem. and Rep. candidates, then I'll get into it more....


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
    #7706984 - 12/02/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This will be my first presidential election. I am just so excited.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
    #7706987 - 12/02/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well im not even American so yea. :laugh:

Anyways...this world is so fucked up as is any change is good. No matter who it is.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Robo]
    #7706992 - 12/02/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm about 75% libertarian but another 25% is liberal.

I think that some things do need to be regulated, like the internet, and television/radio.

I sure as hell don't want one corporation to be able to own 90 to 100% of the airwaves. I think 35% is too much as is, but the FCC is sooo fucked right now, and they're fighting to loosen the restrictions on ownership as we speak.

Ron Paul would make that situation worse.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7706994 - 12/02/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There are certainly things he believes in that I do not agree with and while normally that might matter in this case I can't help but overlook those in favor of seeing what this man is capable of.

He is willing to attempt some pretty dramatic changes to how the US is governed and because a few issues aren't to my liking its the big picture that matters most.

If he's elected and gets to enact his big issues it will be a dramatic change and benefit to the USA's future and not to mention even have a trickle down effect to other western nations.

The more I read about him, the more I listen to what he has to say the more excited I am at the possibility he can actually win this thing.

Don't get caught up in one issue, its rare to find a candidate that supports all your beliefs, but rather look at all his stances and then weigh the pros/cons and I'm sure you'll come to the conclusion so many of his supporters have.

This guy has the potential to shake up and do some great things that will make your life a whole lot better, not to mention how it will affect your children.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Thor]
    #7707001 - 12/02/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

All I can say is that...anyone who is the #1 for lots of the drug aware peope and #1 with lots of white nationalists must be doing something right hahah.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Thor]
    #7707004 - 12/02/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Thor said:
This guy has the potential to shake up and do some great things that will make your life a whole lot better, not to mention how it will affect your children.



Let us hope.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7707009 - 12/02/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Paul would also remove all or most regulation on internet providers. You could choose another provider besides comcast, which, why haven't you done? If your in a contract which allows traffic shaping that's your own damn fault. If your in a contract that doesn't and want the government to enforce your private contract for you, your a whinner- enforce it yourself. UCC, read it, find the law in your state/ locality.

You want the government to regulate local commerce, something you have no right to demand, and it has no right to impose.

Go to the state, get your state to pass net neutrality.

Paul will not prevent the idea, he will just stop the fed's from implementing it.

Either you're uninformed, a communist, or inconsistent.

There is no fundamental difference between personal liberty and commercial liberty.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
    #7707012 - 12/02/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Uh oh don't throw around the C-word....people will start getting scared.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
    #7707015 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

NOT COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!

Fuck there is nothing worse then...what is called "communism"


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
    #7707016 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can tell you're a jackass, so I won't even argue with you.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: johnm214]
    #7707018 - 12/02/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

McCarthyists !


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: Tangerines]
    #7707026 - 12/02/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if your suggesting I'm reverting to some gut-reaction to that word, you're wrong. There is no difference between the government telling you what you can do with your buisness, and the government telling you what buisness you can open, or what you can buy personally. This is communism.

Show me the bright-line between traffic-shaping legislation and any other communist stance. The person is to be free, when the government interferes with your liberty whether via consumer transactions or through your buisness, you are not free. That's why a simple pragmatic and moral stance on legislation is appropriate. Only prohibit people from engaging in activities which wrongfully (without consent) invade others' rights


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P.S. Take some personal responsibility. You are responsible for your own buisness relationships. Unless you've persued the matter w/ comcast you have no right to complain.


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Re: Fund-raiser for Freedom! Supporter Accounts, Name Changes, Classifieds [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #7707028 - 12/02/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

HELLA_TIGHT said:
I can tell you're a jackass, so I won't even argue with you.





Wont argue cos he has some points? Fail. Dont expect me to argue for or against this shit but come on.


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