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Best way to case these?
    #7700873 - 11/30/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have six fully colonized pint BRF cakes, 4 golden teacher and 2 PF albino. I have a little experience fruiting cakes so far and to try and up my yeild I would like to try casing these. My question is, should I case all 6 of the pint cakes in a large baking tray? Or 3 trays of two each maybe? Also, what is the most productive casing blend to use for these? Preferably substrate ingrediants I can buy at Lowes...I already have some vermiculite, I'm just not sure what else to mix with it.


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: vm711]
    #7701019 - 11/30/07 10:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would not mix them. I would buy two different size baking pans. One like the size to cook a small turkey, and one the size to bake a loaf of bread. Go to Lowes and by thishttp://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=156716-446-75278300&lpage=none
Use 50/50 with the vermiculite you have. Make sure you follow the recomended casing procedures. Here is a good place to start.http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0
Make sure your fruiting chamber is adequate or casing will be for shit! Good Luck!


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7702812 - 12/01/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

HMM...maybe il just fruit the cakes alone, I've never done casings and I'm afraid to oversaturate/under water, as these are my last cakes left. I'll have to think about it.

Were you suggesting to individually case each cake? Or b not mixing them you mean dont mix the GT and albino? Like maybe make 3 pans with two each, without mixing strains...?


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: vm711]
    #7702817 - 12/01/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do NOT mix the strains in a single casing... either put 2 in each.
2 gt, 2 gt, and 2 PF Albino... Or do them all individually.
Use the casing teks and you'll be fine, I was scared at first, but how will you ever learn if you do not progress...
P.S. We learn more from our failures than our victories...
Go for it and don't be scerd.
Golden rule of thumb... If you squeeze the casing mix in your hand and you see more than a couple of drops, it's probably too wet..


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: vm711]
    #7702822 - 12/01/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Without spawning to bulk your not going to really increase your yeilds, straight casing crumbled cakes will produce similar yeilds as to straight dunk n rolled cakes.

The only advantage i can think of with casing is that you can get a more even pinset (due to the casing layer providing the mositure neded for good pinset formation)

But this can easily be produced from a cake that has been rolled in verm and nicely mositened, along with good FAE and high humidity in the fruiting chamber.

Crumbling and casing the cakes also damages the mycelium, so it has to recover.


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7702829 - 12/01/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah mang, I don't do cakes, so I'm not in your boat. When I did do cakes, I saw a difference in fruit size and that was about it, but then again, I never dunked and rolled my cakes so I wouldn't know what kind of fruits you can get... I went straight from cakes only, to casing crumbled cakes, to rye and horse dung... So I would go with the advice of someone who deals with cakes...
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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7702836 - 12/01/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ahh, I see. I think im just going to dunk and roll these cakes like the other ones. It sucks because of the 5 brf pint cakes of B+ ive done so far, only two fruited, and they fruited wonderfully, giving me 1/2oz dried between the two for one flush so far. But two of them contamed, and the other one has jsut been sitting there without pinning. The ones that alread flushed barely have any pins for the second, one of them has two little shrooms growing off it. And there have been 8 half pint cakes in there for a week now, none of them have pinned yet. My fruiting chamber is a rubbermaid 18 gallon clear with a small 2-3" bed of soaked perlite that does not feel damp anymore (I dont know if it should?) with about 100 holes on all six sides. It gets fanned and heavily misted once per day, and the temp is only between 60-70 degrees F. There is also an airpump powering two bubble wands. Maybe I should replace the perlite with new because the waters evaporationg to quickly or something?


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Re: Best way to case these? [Re: Nwerd]
    #7702840 - 12/01/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dunking cakes make a huge difference, i have had some good sized fruits, not huge but decent, like 10 gram fruits.

I have never tried crumbling cakes and casing, i have just read lots of posts on it. I wills till give it a gow and have my own comparisons.

If you want to do it, you can and it will work.

But from my time here, i would think it be better to go with grains, spawned to a bulk then cased.

If you dont want to spawn to bulk, it is possible to just straight case grains with good results, some grains to better than others.


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Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek


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