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ecstasy question
#7700376 - 11/30/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i just got four e pills and me and my friend who i havent seen in a year were gonna roll tomorrow night i was wondering if i took one tonight if i would still roll just as hard tomorrow?
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It depends on how much you were planning on taking tomorrow night.
But you will most likely experience some tolerance regardless if you take one tonight.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7700416 - 11/30/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not real experienced with MDMA but from what I've read, you're supposed to dose once every 2-3 months. If you must roll tonight, then tomorrow you might need to take 2 pills to feel the same effects, but I'm not sure if that's how it really works... The last time I had MDMA was last christmas so I think it's about time for me as well.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: c0_hush]
#7700430 - 11/30/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was actually planing on 1 tonight and 1 and half tomorrow but idk if it would be a waste to do it tonight
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It wouldn't be a waste tonight, it would be a waste if you did it again tomorrow :P
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1 tonight and 1.5 tomorrow? You won't feel much tomorrow. I would just wait until tomorrow night.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7700474 - 11/30/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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since it will just be you two then wait till tomorrow and then both yall eat two.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: emilbus]
#7700506 - 11/30/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what are your guys thougths on "stacks" like double triples and quads this guy says there quads but ive had doubles stronger than any triples iv had
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stacks dont mean shit
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: emilbus]
#7700689 - 11/30/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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emilbus said: stacks dont mean shit
That's just dealer talk/BS. Doesn't neccesarily mean much. There's no real universal standard for what a single,double,triple etc. stack is.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7700848 - 11/30/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive had singles that were much better then trippels. to be honest with you, Ive never had a quad stack.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: emilbus]
#7700880 - 11/30/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hear blue xtc pills are wayyyyyyy stronger than any other color. The blue mdma is pure product
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oh no, the white double stacks are better.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: emilbus]
#7700895 - 11/30/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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pshh white xtc molecules aren't even close to the same thing as blue
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X is stupid! and one of those fake happiness drugs, that lead to no kind of substance or real experience. Why don't you just go get some METH?!
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7700975 - 11/30/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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IMHO actual mdma does not in the least feel fake as it creates happiness the same way the mind does sober(for the most part), and the experience can most definitely be life changing in a spiritual sense (especially combined with other psychedelics). All it takes is a little self control on usage and done in a proper location(if a spiritual experience is what your looking for)
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When you could use what mother earth has already given you..
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701036 - 11/30/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or i could use what my dealer has given me
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if you're doing for the spiritual experience, then you'll probably end up needing something else, something that will get you to that furthur step, unlike what mdma can give you.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701095 - 11/30/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701100 - 11/30/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like it's cousin Mescaline for instance. MDMA is whatever you make it. MDMA is good for the soul. It's not a fake happiness drug.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7701118 - 11/30/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, i've been to erowid, thanks. how much of a history does this have compared to, ohh i dunno, ayahuasca? or even mushrooms?
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701124 - 11/30/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what does history have to do with it.
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a hell of a lot. you know, there's a lot more stuff on erowid than just the mdma page.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701145 - 11/30/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh no I know you isn't hating on pretty much my favorite PEA besides maybe trimethoxy.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701147 - 11/30/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it has "a hell of a lot" to do with it, it will be easy to explain to me at least one point. I just don't understand what you were getting at, it would be nice if you informed me to support your argument.
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it's not very easy to sum it up... it's from a lot of experience, but i'll try:
just think about how people have been doing plants like ayahuasca or mushrooms, peyote, and much more for thousands and thousands of years, compared to how long X has been around. Not only is it much much safer, but the experience and reality of it is much more genuine.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701220 - 11/30/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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A lot of synthetic hallucinogens are just as safe as natural ones. Like adagio said it depends on what the user expects. Being psychoactive chemicals that work on the subconscious, if you expect it to be less "genuine" it will be less genuine. I have been just as far and have had equal amounts of life changing experiences on synthetic and natural chemicals because I am open minded on what to expect.
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The only time I've ever done mdma I was expecting nothing. So you can't blame it on that. A lot are just as safe, yes, but mdma is certainly not one of them.
Have you ever gotten that feeling from someone else like they 'know' about the same things you do, or they've been to that 'other' side....?
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701258 - 11/30/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try most of the people on this board
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7701267 - 11/30/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, you've met that many people on here in person? So any of the people I've met like that, it isn't from X. Also, most of the people I've met that like to do it, I don't have that same connection with. I'm a very open minded person, but X didn't open much up for me. Isn't one of the great things from that kind of experience connecting to the universe? To mother nature and the stars? I don't see how mdma connects in the same network of life with all of that..
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701308 - 11/30/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That zone isn't for everyone. I've been there, lots of people have been there. Of course MDMA doesn't compare to a full blown DMT breakthrough. This is known fact. It does not however, mean that it is not genuine or illegitimate just because it does not have the same effects as a completely different subsance. Sure, you make a chemical a what it is to some extent, but there's also a fine line between substances such as MDMA and full-blown "psychedelic" substances that bring about spiritual experiences that one must recognize. I can accept that.
Maybe some people don't want to have a spritual experience, maybe they are just there for the party (referring to MDMA). Big deal, everyone's different. I for one like a little of both.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7701339 - 11/30/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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alright, we've come to an agreement finally. so it IS for the fucking party.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701347 - 11/30/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive done much much much mdma during my life and well its a good drug persay but I feel it is becoming the coke of the 2000's.
More and more kids are hooked on it and Ive known many a person who does not got a day without pills up there nose.
I hope people can wake up and see that this drug is dangerous if used like coke and because it is cheap and everywhere it could become scary soon.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
#7701355 - 11/30/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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see.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701370 - 11/30/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I Play shows and am good friends with dealers who run the scene in a smaller town near mine. Its amazing to see how many pills they sell at one event / how every weekend lots of the kids are doing lots of the pills.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701392 - 11/30/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love Cap said: Okay, you've met that many people on here in person? So any of the people I've met like that, it isn't from X. Also, most of the people I've met that like to do it, I don't have that same connection with. I'm a very open minded person, but X didn't open much up for me.
Thats probably because they just take some random pill cut with who knows what and do it just to party. Pure MDMA can be quite the spiritual awakening.
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Isn't one of the great things from that kind of experience connecting to the universe? To mother nature and the stars? I don't see how mdma connects in the same network of life with all of that..
Did you look at the link i posted about the mystical experience vault with mdma. Last time my friend took some ecstasy with me(not a hippy, more of a metal head), he spent the whole time with his head planted on the ground because he said he heard "gaia" crying and they were telling him how to better his life and the world around him. Most definitely has the potential. And let us not forget about MDA(also a common active chemical in ecstasy ), which is much more psychedelic, visually and in terms of obscure thought patterns.
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did she tell him to stop doing X?
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701426 - 11/30/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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she told him people in this world need to be more open minded, only then will they truly be happy.
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so is it open minded of me if i enjoy myself with heroin?
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701445 - 12/01/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It would be open minded if you realized that its not the drug itself that should be blamed for hurting people. Its the self destructive user, any drug can be used safely even heroin.
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maybe you're not open minded to the fact of how dangerous some drugs are. and this was started about a question of X, not mdma. Under the 'psychedelic experience' forum, X isn't even in the sub catagories... this whole thread belongs in the other drugs discussion.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7701485 - 12/01/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I completely realize how dangerous these drugs are(MDMA not that dangerous in my opinion) which helps me use them safely. MDMA is the desired psychoactive chemical in ecstasy pills so I feel it does relate. Yes it does belong in the other drug discussion according to forum rules(don't think that really matters)but if your implying that its not considered psychedelic i think you should look up the definition.
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DeathCompany said: I hear blue xtc pills are wayyyyyyy stronger than any other color. The blue mdma is pure product
that could be true the blue pills i had once kicked my ass way stronger than anything ive ever had
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
#7702092 - 12/01/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mdma is not quite to the level of heroin
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
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Love Cap said: maybe you're not open minded to the fact of how dangerous some drugs are. and this was started about a question of X, not mdma. Under the 'psychedelic experience' forum, X isn't even in the sub catagories... this whole thread belongs in the other drugs discussion.
Fuck 'X'. There's no such thing as 'X' as far as I'm concerned. And the heroin bit, what does that have to do with anything? We're talking PEA's and Tryptamines here, stay focused.
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DeathCompany said: I hear blue xtc pills are wayyyyyyy stronger than any other color. The blue mdma is pure product
that could be true the blue pills i had once kicked my ass way stronger than anything ive ever had
False. Most any pill that is pressed is not pure in anyway. Why would they press mdma powder when they can just put it in capsules. If your looking for real pures look for Mdma powder in capsules.
You cant tell whats in a pill by its color. Thats not how it works.
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DeathCompany said: It would be open minded if you realized that its not the drug itself that should be blamed for hurting people. Its the self destructive user, any drug can be used safely even heroin.
Exactly.
And I think they were just messing around F1234K
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
#7703212 - 12/01/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah i was most definitely being sarcastic. I thought i layed it on pretty thick.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
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DeathCompany said: I hear blue xtc pills are wayyyyyyy stronger than any other color. The blue mdma is pure product
False. Most any pill that is pressed is not pure in anyway. Why would they press mdma powder when they can just put it in capsules. If your looking for real pures look for Mdma powder in capsules. You cant tell whats in a pill by its color. Thats not how it works.
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yea lol i got ya but those greem molecules are pretty hardcore
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Sorry, I am over worked and tired. I no shroomery users are smarter then that Just thought I would give my input seeing I have much research and time into this drug.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
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Iv'd heroin cannot be used safely...period..sure you can use it once but its not safe in any way.
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^ True.
MDMA can dangerous if you abuse it but 95% of the time its safe because people know what there doing / dont get addicted.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
#7703528 - 12/01/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moderation is key.
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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
#7705084 - 12/02/07 01:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could say that about meth too 
Although I know what you mean. hehe.
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