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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701100 - 11/30/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Like it's cousin Mescaline for instance.
MDMA is whatever you make it. MDMA is good for the soul.
It's not a fake happiness drug.

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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
    #7701118 - 11/30/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i've been to erowid, thanks. how much of a history does this have compared to, ohh i dunno, ayahuasca? or even mushrooms?


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701124 - 11/30/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what does history have to do with it.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7701132 - 11/30/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

a hell of a lot. you know, there's a lot more stuff on erowid than just the mdma page.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701145 - 11/30/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh no I know you isn't hating on pretty much my favorite PEA besides maybe trimethoxy.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701147 - 11/30/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If it has "a hell of a lot" to do with it, it will be easy to explain to me at least one point. I just don't understand what you were getting at, it would be nice if you informed me to support your argument.:shrug:


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7701169 - 11/30/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it's not very easy to sum it up... it's from a lot of experience, but i'll try:

just think about how people have been doing plants like ayahuasca or mushrooms, peyote, and much more for thousands and thousands of years, compared to how long X has been around. Not only is it much much safer, but the experience and reality of it is much more genuine.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701220 - 11/30/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of synthetic hallucinogens are just as safe as natural ones. Like adagio said it depends on what the user expects. Being psychoactive chemicals that work on the subconscious, if you expect it to be less "genuine" it will be less genuine. I have been just as far and have had equal amounts of life changing experiences on synthetic and natural chemicals because I am open minded on what to expect.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7701240 - 11/30/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The only time I've ever done mdma I was expecting nothing. So you can't blame it on that. A lot are just as safe, yes, but mdma is certainly not one of them.

Have you ever gotten that feeling from someone else like they 'know' about the same things you do, or they've been to that 'other' side....?


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701258 - 11/30/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Try most of the people on this board :smirk:


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
    #7701267 - 11/30/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, you've met that many people on here in person?
So any of the people I've met like that, it isn't from X.
Also, most of the people I've met that like to do it, I don't have that same connection with. I'm a very open minded person, but X didn't open much up for me.
Isn't one of the great things from that kind of experience connecting to the universe? To mother nature and the stars? I don't see how mdma connects in the same network of life with all of that..


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701308 - 11/30/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That zone isn't for everyone. I've been there, lots of people have been there. Of course MDMA doesn't compare to a full blown DMT breakthrough. This is known fact. It does not however, mean that it is not genuine or illegitimate just because it does not have the same effects as a completely different subsance. Sure, you make a chemical a what it is to some extent, but there's also a fine line between substances such as MDMA and full-blown "psychedelic" substances that bring about spiritual experiences that one must recognize. I can accept that.

Maybe some people don't want to have a spritual experience, maybe they are just there for the party (referring to MDMA). Big deal, everyone's different. I for one like a little of both.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Robo]
    #7701339 - 11/30/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

alright, we've come to an agreement finally. so it IS for the fucking party.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701347 - 11/30/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ive done much much much mdma during my life and well its a good drug persay but I feel it is becoming the coke of the 2000's.

More and more kids are hooked on it and Ive known many a person who does not got a day without pills up there nose.

I hope people can wake up and see that this drug is dangerous if used like coke and because it is cheap and everywhere it could become scary soon.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: F1234K]
    #7701355 - 11/30/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

see.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701370 - 11/30/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I Play shows and am good friends with dealers who run the scene in a smaller town near mine. Its amazing to see how many pills they sell at one event / how every weekend lots of the kids are doing lots of the pills.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701392 - 11/30/07 11:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Okay, you've met that many people on here in person?
So any of the people I've met like that, it isn't from X.
Also, most of the people I've met that like to do it, I don't have that same connection with. I'm a very open minded person, but X didn't open much up for me.




Thats probably because they just take some random pill cut with who knows what and do it just to party. Pure MDMA can be quite the spiritual awakening.

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Isn't one of the great things from that kind of experience connecting to the universe? To mother nature and the stars? I don't see how mdma connects in the same network of life with all of that..




Did you look at the link i posted about the mystical experience vault with mdma. Last time my friend took some ecstasy with me(not a hippy, more of a metal head), he spent the whole time with his head planted on the ground because he said he heard "gaia" crying and they were telling him how to better his life and the world around him. Most definitely has the potential. And let us not forget about MDA(also a common active chemical in ecstasy ), which is much more psychedelic, visually and in terms of obscure thought patterns.


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7701418 - 11/30/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

did she tell him to stop doing X?


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: Love Cap]
    #7701426 - 11/30/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

she told him people in this world need to be more open minded, only then will they truly be happy.:smirk:


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Re: ecstasy question [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7701437 - 11/30/07 11:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so is it open minded of me if i enjoy myself with heroin?


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