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bmy
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crazy idea
#7700241 - 11/30/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was reading this thread about AP, DMT and dreams. And I got this crazy idea. What if our wakened mind (those we are when we are awake) just is a state of dream for the mind-state that we call dreams. What I is suggesting is that when we dream, we are in a higher ego-state, then we we wake up this higher ego falls asleep. A bit like two minds in the same brain, just that they are "never" awake at the same time, so they would both refer to dreams. When we get OBE we wake the sleeping mind (the higher ego-state) and both minds are awake at the same time, making you able to experience how it is to be the higher state mind. And the higher state mind gets to experience how the lower state is.
edit. should be noted that I'm not suggesting that this "higher state mind" has any other body or real space to go (like in other dimensions), its awake state would be where your body is - most likely in a dark room. So it would only get the sense input that your body has at the moment.
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Edited by bmy (11/30/07 06:16 PM)
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kody260z
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Re: crazy idea [Re: bmy]
#7700676 - 11/30/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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interesting...
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DeathCompany
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Re: crazy idea [Re: kody260z]
#7700845 - 11/30/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The feeling of duality(sensing the physical body while in astral body) is experienced by many astral projectors but some believe in 3 different types of bodies existing all at once.
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1.Physical/dream mind (master copy) 2.Physical/Etheric mind (expanded etheric body) 3. real time projected double (first true mind split)
All three copies are energetically interconnected and dependently-although in the case of the dream mind, on a more internalized level of consciousness within the dream environment. The natural purpose of this multiple mind-split effect is, I believe, to allow the essential animating spirit to strip away the layers of gross matter that hold it fixed within the physical body and physical universe. This process progressively exposes the more refined spiritual aspects of the central animating core of spirit consciousness. This enables it to temporarily exist in higher dimensions, to reflect a part of itself there, during sleep or OBE. A solid base inside the physical/etheric body remains behind throughout this process, however safely holding the original, or master copy of its earthly consciousness and memories for its current incarnation
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Edited by DeathCompany (11/30/07 09:18 PM)
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Love Cap
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Crazy idea, yet old idea... good one, but what about the in between, like lucidity, for instance?
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bmy
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Re: crazy idea [Re: Love Cap]
#7701855 - 12/01/07 05:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love Cap said: Crazy idea, yet old idea... good one, but what about the in between, like lucidity, for instance?
When in between both minds would be awake, more or less.
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