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Plok
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The difficulty in smoking DMT
#7698651 - 11/30/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a couple of friends that desperately want to try DMT, but they cannot for the life of them hold the smoke in. One of them has never smoked anything in his life, and chokes immediately upon inhaling the smoke. The other has been smoking pot and cigs for a decade but for some reason cannot handle the DMT smoke either. They were using a cheap (but effective) freebase pipe.
1. Does a freebase pipe that has been used many times (only for DMT) produce more harsh smoke than a new/clean one? It is coated with black stuff on the bowl both inside and out.
2. Is there any easier way to do this? It would be great if I could cool the smoke with ice or something. Or at least put more distance between their mouth and the bowl. Last time my friend got burning DMT crystal in his throat and he was in pain for an hour.
Why does DMT smoke have to be so nasty 
Someday we will try Ayahuasca but I would really like to be able to give them the experience of a breakthrough smoked DMT session.
Any tips?
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truffleupagus


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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: Plok]
#7698672 - 11/30/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like your one friend needs to smoke a bunch of pot first and your other friend needs to quit the cigs.
Not sure what you could do to cool the smoke but it seems like a brand new pipe couldn't hurt.
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: truffleupagus]
#7698686 - 11/30/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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use a tall bong with large chamber.
milk taht shit up, take a breath then have em suck it all in their lungs deep. i doubt it will take much holding in if the hit is big enough.
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Plok
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: pong]
#7698722 - 11/30/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are there any freebase pipes that you can cool with ice?
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elcharrosays
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: pong]
#7698728 - 11/30/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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smoking pot before hand should help since its a bronchial dilator (relaxes your throat)
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elcharrosays
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: Plok]
#7698856 - 11/30/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Plok said: Are there any freebase pipes that you can cool with ice?
im pretty sure ive seen some with giant bases but i dont think ive ever seen someone put water and ice in one. anybody remember the kind that chris rock was smoking when he broke down for the crack in new jack city?
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: elcharrosays]
#7698991 - 11/30/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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try putting it in layers with other shit (see diagram below)
** FLAME *** ** * --mint leaves-- ----DMT-------- ----ash-------- |PIPE|
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PyroBurns
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Plug it.
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budsmoke
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: PyroBurns]
#7699368 - 11/30/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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would a waterfall bong work?
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demiu5
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: Plok]
#7699421 - 11/30/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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a) consider cleaning up your product. even the white-off-white burns my lungs, especially if the black gunk is starting to build up
b) consider cleaning out your pipe. vaporize it like normal but keep holding heat to it, then, take a cotton swab or other and scrub it down
i will say that i never realized how much buildup was in my vaporizer until my roommate and i were able to take about 10-15 good hits off the thing without reloading it with residue still left in there
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F1234K
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: demiu5]
#7699461 - 11/30/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have pure white dmt thats all fluffy. I used to smoke cigarette's and cigars and weed now I just smoke weed. Ive never ever found dmt smoke to be harsh. No Idea why.
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Enhance_Shammy
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: F1234K]
#7699466 - 11/30/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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how do u get white fluffy dmt? jsut wash the yellowish crystals with pure HO2?
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F1234K
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You just make it with care. My friend has a small lab. First time we made it we made it very sketchy and got yellow shit.
Then we made a new batch that we did very carefully and then redesolved and rewashed many a time.
He did most of the work the second time around. He is smart in that way. I took about...30mgs in a bong hoot and broke through. (I was also on 4 grams of mush at that time)
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demiu5
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mine have never come out waxy or very yellow on the initial freezes, but even afterwards, i recryst. at least once if not twice
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: demiu5]
#7699492 - 11/30/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well i plan on useing lazy mans tek, so no freezing or crystaling step in the tek. But so far from peoples comments it seems a very good tek, quality, time, effort, quantity. i hear some good white shit comming outa that tek in like 7 hours extraction time!
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Yeah, mix it with some fat (butter will do) and plug it. It's harsh unless you wash the sodium hydroxide out.
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are u sugesting mixing the DMT with butter and then smoking the dough or wtvr hte combination will make? the Buttered DMT paste? smoke that/?
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i dont know why, but the sight of base pipes make giggle like a little bitch lol
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Re: The difficulty in smoking DMT [Re: Plok]
#7700272 - 11/30/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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DMT is harsh on the lungs, but it sounds like your batch might be impure. Try re-crystallizing it to get a cleaner product. What color is it now?
One thing you can do is smoke menthol before and with the DMT. It is a mild anesthetic. But in my experience, I can hold the smoke indefinitely without much pain, and I don't smoke pot nor tobacco. My throat does hurt when I'm coming down though. Feels like I smoked plastic.
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