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Plok
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Alcohol "or" drugs
#7698537 - 11/30/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why is alcohol often not considered a drug when referred to?
No alcohol OR drugs on the premises, for instance. 
Is it because it is in liquid form and comes in a bottle? But then so is GHB, the "DATE RAPE" drug 
Is it because it is socially acceptable, and "drugs" aren't? Even though almost everyone uses some kind of drug regularly (pot, tobacco, alcohol and perscription meds being the most plentiful)?
Why, as a species, do we continue to harbor such an infantile attitude toward the chemicals that we surround ourselves with? Is there any real hope of maturing in this area?
Maybe we will never have the maturity to handle the power that these chemicals have on us. And with time, more and more will be created.
Discuss.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698551 - 11/30/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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many people dont consider booze a drug, thats why.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: pong]
#7698599 - 11/30/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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many people are dumb.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Tangerines]
#7698603 - 11/30/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tangerines said: many people are dumb.
hence the state of the world we live in today.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698618 - 11/30/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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alchohol fucks me up more that alot of other drugs, health and mental wise. >
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698637 - 11/30/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plok said: Why is alcohol often not considered a drug when referred to?
It's because alcohol is the main ingredient in adult beverages, which most people do not drink as medication.
When people refer to "drugs", they are talking about either pharmaceutical preparations for medical use, or illegal substances used for intoxication.
Alcohol is neither illegal (for adults), nor is it used as a medicine.
I do agree however, that alcohol should in fact be regarded as a drug, as it does fit the physiological definition of a drug.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698663 - 11/30/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone I've confronted about this topic has told me it's because of the legality of alcohol. The usual response is "I know its a drug too, but its legal."
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RipVanWinkle said: Everyone I've confronted about this topic has told me it's because of the legality of alcohol. The usual response is "I know its a drug too, but its legal."
Aspirin is a drug, and that's legal! I doubt anyone would use it recreationally, however.
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RipVanWinkle said: Everyone I've confronted about this topic has told me it's because of the legality of alcohol. The usual response is "I know its a drug too, but its legal."
GOD! there is no logic in that! i detest people like that.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Syle]
#7698707 - 11/30/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yep. Those are the types of people I just shake my head at and walk away. No hope for those types.
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Plok
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My theory is that most of us are in denial.
DRUGS are either used to heal people (medically) 
or they are used to get HIGH which is wrong and horrible. 
There is no middle ground people!
So alcohol isn't a DRUG, it's a drink!
No one wants to be thought of as a DRUG user. This situation is as hypocritical as it gets, and it's built right into our vernacular.
We are all chemical beings. We ingest chemicals all the time. We are made of chemicals.
We need to stop pretending that we're not, and rather focus on the relationships that we have with these chemicals.
Of course, I'm mostly preaching to the choir, since I posted this on the Shroomery.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698786 - 11/30/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't mind being thought of as a drug user
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698791 - 11/30/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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very true ...but some of us would rather be labeled an addict then a drunk
then again this isn't the time for me to get balls deep into an interesting topic I'd have to think about it really hard its like either I can choose from smoking some good pot over having all the beer I wanted I'd choose the pot ...but don't get me wrong I'm abusing the use of alcohol I guess you could say..
I drink so many beers in a day I hardly find myself drunk when I really mean to get that way ... to be truthful I could use more drugs
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andyistic said:
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RipVanWinkle said: Everyone I've confronted about this topic has told me it's because of the legality of alcohol. The usual response is "I know its a drug too, but its legal."
Aspirin is a drug, and that's legal! I doubt anyone would use it recreationally, however.
Dude, dump a bottle of aspirin into your jenkem and tell me you don't get fucked up. It adds a nice bitter taste, too.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Plok]
#7698947 - 11/30/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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drugs
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Syle]
#7698970 - 11/30/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Syle said:
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Tangerines said: many people are dumb.
hence the state of the world we live in today.
That and every dumbass tends to think that they know who's to blame for fucking everything up.
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Cowgold]
#7699117 - 11/30/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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alcohol is not a drug, its a drink.
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RipVanWinkle
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: druqs]
#7699141 - 11/30/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycelismymind said: alcohol is not a drug, its a drink.
So is poppy pod tea
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SO liquid acid is a drink???
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Re: Alcohol "or" drugs [Re: Tangerines]
#7699251 - 11/30/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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no, thats a genius quaff.
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