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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7704238 - 12/01/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So any moron can get a PhD in physics?


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: downforpot]
    #7704492 - 12/01/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yes, however you dont see your average joe even interested in that sort of thing. Who else but those people who have a great curiosity about their world would put that much effort obtaining such a degree? Just your average joe is interested in faster means of "gratification" by which i mean money. fields like medicine or business dont really take a special person and tend to pay more than a physics degree (depending completely, of course, on your particular job)

use some common sense. things arent completely black and white. there are exceptions to almost any situation. dont think in infinite shades of gray, either...


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And if you are going to waste peoples time with your stupid questions, at least try to have grammar skills higher then that of a 7th grader.

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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7705509 - 12/02/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yes there are exceptions but the point is that the Russia Mafia is full of extremely intelligent people with college degrees.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: downforpot]
    #7706139 - 12/02/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i thought the point was that america wasnt set up to deal with and utilize intelligent people...


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7707287 - 12/02/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That's the topics point, wps started talking about something completely different.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: downforpot]
    #7708365 - 12/02/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is getting off topic. make your point clear without sarcasm, please.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7708389 - 12/02/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

how long shall they kill our prophets, while we stand aside and look?

some say its just a part of it, we got to fulfill the book.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Phred]
    #7708409 - 12/02/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Phred said:
I'm still not understanding how this is a political issue. Would someone like to take a stab at explaining that to me?



Phred




the right wing is pretty anti-intellectual all of the sudden. especially the jesus tards who believe shit that is really impossible non-sense.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7708467 - 12/02/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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nobhdy said:
You better hope people know what that word means...


In any case, im the same way. Growing up, i was put into a "gifted" program, but it never really went any further than that. call it vain, but i know i think on a higher level than my peers. All my life, i have had poor grades and have been very lazy. looking back, i dont think that society provides for people of higher higher intelligence than others. granted, i could have made the most of it by not being lazy and applying myself, but i was always bored. boredom by the mundane stuff that everyone else finds challenging, and i think thats why smarter people tend to be neglected. they are seen more as merely "that lazy kid"

i think that if you are determined to have a higher iq (which by no means says you're intelligent) you should be given special opportunities throughout youth. if it turns out that you arent that smart, they can drop you. We need more imagination in our learning, more creativity. and writing a creative essay doesnt cut it.

im rambling, so im gonna close.




Alright, this is only partially in response to you, but it (kind of) encompasses my whole point. At the age of 2 I taught myself how to read. 5, I was reading real books. 7, reading novels (the Black Pearl, Islands of the Blue Dolphins, etc.) and doing pre-algebra (square roots, fractions and the like) By the end of that year, I tested post-hightschool and my elementary school principal chose to keep me at my current grade to keep my testing scores at my AGE, not my true level. At 8 years old, I would cry every night because I was smarter than my peers, not the opposite. My mother was so concerned about me she took me out of school for homeschooling (another story).
By the age of 14, I was testing sophomore for college, and I dropped all my studies.
(I'm not tooting my own horn; keep reading)
At 15, I began trying to commit suicide, which continued unsuccessfully for several years, and then progressed into trying to destroy myself through alcohol abuse. All I wanted was to understand teens my age, and vice versa. A few years later I took my GED and passed in the highest percentile - then I applied for J.C.
I am currently qualified for MENSA and am a member of the national honor roll with a G.P.A. of 3.8 for years. However, the only place I use my intelligence is school. I hide it at home, work, and life, and would give anything to trade the life I used to have.
Society IS nicer to people closer to the norm.
What makes me happy now is my puppies.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Conservationist]
    #7708471 - 12/02/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it's so true man. i just laugh at them all.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: gbeatle]
    #7709001 - 12/02/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can completely understand that. i was reading the encyclopedia set my parents got as a wedding gift by the 1st grade, and by the 9th, i had already read everything the next 4 years of english had to offer. i wasnt impressed with school...

the difference between us is that you had the drive to work hard at what you were supposed to do, while i read for the hell of it. also, you let society get to you. i have found that talking with normal people boring. my roomates for example (i live in the barracks. im in the navy) all talk about what girl they are doing or how much weed they're going to smoke when they get out. when i try to bring up politics or try to explain something, they crash down on me, telling me that my priorities are all wrong. I simply let society move on without me and i lived in my books. when i found the internet, it was a whole different story, but the same feeling. i was being taken to a world all my own and didnt have to deal with people.

all im saying is i agree with you, i guess...


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Pandora]
    #7709046 - 12/02/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think the whole suicide thing was probably because you're a nutty and unstable person.

All of the really smart people I know are lawyers and shit like that and they are super-successful.  :shrug:


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7709158 - 12/02/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it's all in the mind. you can become anything you want but its the inside that matters not the outside. a good example of this is music. ill use examples like elvis, the beatles, kurt cobain hell even mozart, these amazing artist would have never gotten by on there looks or any of that jazz they went through alot of pain in there lifes and learned how to use it to there advantage and just did what they wanted to do even if people hated them at first. then they became huge. lol sorry if this doesnt make much since either its cause im high or your an ignorant bastard dissagreeing lol.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: nobhdy]
    #7709264 - 12/03/07 12:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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this is getting off topic. make your point clear without sarcasm, please.




what the fuck are you talking about? Sarcasm? Where the fuck did I show any sarcasm?


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Pandora]
    #7709330 - 12/03/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Pandora said:
Alright, this is only partially in response to you, but it (kind of) encompasses my whole point. At the age of 2 I taught myself how to read. 5, I was reading real books. 7, reading novels (the Black Pearl, Islands of the Blue Dolphins, etc.) and doing pre-algebra (square roots, fractions and the like) By the end of that year, I tested post-hightschool and my elementary school principal chose to keep me at my current grade to keep my testing scores at my AGE, not my true level. At 8 years old, I would cry every night because I was smarter than my peers, not the opposite. My mother was so concerned about me she took me out of school for homeschooling (another story).
By the age of 14, I was testing sophomore for college, and I dropped all my studies.
(I'm not tooting my own horn; keep reading)
At 15, I began trying to commit suicide, which continued unsuccessfully for several years, and then progressed into trying to destroy myself through alcohol abuse. All I wanted was to understand teens my age, and vice versa. A few years later I took my GED and passed in the highest percentile - then I applied for J.C.
I am currently qualified for MENSA and am a member of the national honor roll with a G.P.A. of 3.8 for years. However, the only place I use my intelligence is school. I hide it at home, work, and life, and would give anything to trade the life I used to have.
Society IS nicer to people closer to the norm.
What makes me happy now is my puppies.




Bold: I call mother fucking shenanigans on that shit.

I was a gifted kid. I had shit loads of fun in elementary school and we were never looked down upon by our peers and this was Miami public schools. And even though I was in gifted classes, the shit was way too easy and a joke. Hell, even later APs and college courses are way too easy. I loathe school. I dropped out of university over the summer to take care of my grandmother in the caribbean after my grandfather died but I think I'll go back next fall because I want to work in my ideal profession so badly. I'm not looking forward to grad school though. At least no matter what happens I could always move to the caribbean and become an organic vegetable farmer or open a restaurant.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: d33p]
    #7709483 - 12/03/07 01:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
Quote:

Pandora said:
Alright, this is only partially in response to you, but it (kind of) encompasses my whole point. At the age of 2 I taught myself how to read. 5, I was reading real books. 7, reading novels (the Black Pearl, Islands of the Blue Dolphins, etc.) and doing pre-algebra (square roots, fractions and the like) By the end of that year, I tested post-hightschool and my elementary school principal chose to keep me at my current grade to keep my testing scores at my AGE, not my true level. At 8 years old, I would cry every night because I was smarter than my peers, not the opposite. My mother was so concerned about me she took me out of school for homeschooling (another story).
By the age of 14, I was testing sophomore for college, and I dropped all my studies.
(I'm not tooting my own horn; keep reading)
At 15, I began trying to commit suicide, which continued unsuccessfully for several years, and then progressed into trying to destroy myself through alcohol abuse. All I wanted was to understand teens my age, and vice versa. A few years later I took my GED and passed in the highest percentile - then I applied for J.C.
I am currently qualified for MENSA and am a member of the national honor roll with a G.P.A. of 3.8 for years. However, the only place I use my intelligence is school. I hide it at home, work, and life, and would give anything to trade the life I used to have.
Society IS nicer to people closer to the norm.
What makes me happy now is my puppies.




Bold: I call mother fucking shenanigans on that shit.

I was a gifted kid. I had shit loads of fun in elementary school and we were never looked down upon by our peers and this was Miami public schools. And even though I was in gifted classes, the shit was way too easy and a joke. Hell, even later APs and college courses are way too easy. I loathe school. I dropped out of university over the summer to take care of my grandmother in the caribbean after my grandfather died but I think I'll go back next fall because I want to work in my ideal profession so badly. I'm not looking forward to grad school though. At least no matter what happens I could always move to the caribbean and become an organic vegetable farmer or open a restaurant.




FUCK YOU AND SHENANIGANS! Bring it BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have anything to prove to any of you princess-ann pussy bitches! DID YOU LIVE IN SD????? I WAS TRYING TO HELP NOT START A WAR YO IGNORANT FOOL!
ANYway,
talk to me if you want proof. SDCC I can prove it. OR for you "piece-o-shit's" out there, we can talk too. Trust me, I hope you try to slice your wrists and barely make it like me. 'Cuz you know, assholes like me try to make their life like they've ever wanted to die all the time!


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Pandora]
    #7709506 - 12/03/07 02:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Pandora said:
Quote:

d33p said:
Quote:

Pandora said:
Alright, this is only partially in response to you, but it (kind of) encompasses my whole point. At the age of 2 I taught myself how to read. 5, I was reading real books. 7, reading novels (the Black Pearl, Islands of the Blue Dolphins, etc.) and doing pre-algebra (square roots, fractions and the like) By the end of that year, I tested post-hightschool and my elementary school principal chose to keep me at my current grade to keep my testing scores at my AGE, not my true level. At 8 years old, I would cry every night because I was smarter than my peers, not the opposite. My mother was so concerned about me she took me out of school for homeschooling (another story).
By the age of 14, I was testing sophomore for college, and I dropped all my studies.
(I'm not tooting my own horn; keep reading)
At 15, I began trying to commit suicide, which continued unsuccessfully for several years, and then progressed into trying to destroy myself through alcohol abuse. All I wanted was to understand teens my age, and vice versa. A few years later I took my GED and passed in the highest percentile - then I applied for J.C.
I am currently qualified for MENSA and am a member of the national honor roll with a G.P.A. of 3.8 for years. However, the only place I use my intelligence is school. I hide it at home, work, and life, and would give anything to trade the life I used to have.
Society IS nicer to people closer to the norm.
What makes me happy now is my puppies.




Bold: I call mother fucking shenanigans on that shit.

I was a gifted kid. I had shit loads of fun in elementary school and we were never looked down upon by our peers and this was Miami public schools. And even though I was in gifted classes, the shit was way too easy and a joke. Hell, even later APs and college courses are way too easy. I loathe school. I dropped out of university over the summer to take care of my grandmother in the caribbean after my grandfather died but I think I'll go back next fall because I want to work in my ideal profession so badly. I'm not looking forward to grad school though. At least no matter what happens I could always move to the caribbean and become an organic vegetable farmer or open a restaurant.




FUCK YOU AND SHENANIGANS! Bring it BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have anything to prove to any of you princess-ann pussy bitches! DID YOU LIVE IN SD????? I WAS TRYING TO HELP NOT START A WAR YO IGNORANT FOOL!
ANYway,
talk to me if you want proof. SDCC I can prove it. OR for you "piece-o-shit's" out there, we can talk too. Trust me, I hope you try to slice your wrists and barely make it like me. 'Cuz you know, assholes like me try to make their life like they've ever wanted to die all the time!




Damn girl, put the meth pipe down and slowly back away from the keyboard.

I was genuinely interested when i called shenanigans. Also, I don't suppose you believe that you can recall memories from that age, do you? It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine when people claim to have memories prior to age three. Personally, I don't believe its possible. I'm not closed off to the possibility of being wrong, though.

Oh, and if an admin sees that. I take no offense to it. Don't do anything to her.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: d33p]
    #7709531 - 12/03/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't do meth, although I have seen plenty of friends and friends' family go down. I'm plenty hyper to accommodate it though - I just jumped to conclusions. I am in a bit of a bad mood due to my own issues tonight so I apologize if I came off wrong. My honey is 3000 miles away and it got to me today.

Anyway, call shenanigans. I speak truth. I have and can show pictures of my scars. I have been bulimic for over 10 years and cannot prove that since my friends would kill me to know my disorder is still active. I now love being alive, and love my dogs. they truly give me hope. If you want to talk further, or see pictures further, PM me. If you think I am liar, I really mourn for you and society. Would you like to hear my ups and downs as a person with an eating disorder? Have you ever watched yourself bleed hoping you wouldn't wake up? How about taking so many laxatives you were ashamed to use the restroom? Oh- what about wanting to donate an egg or sperm, but afraid to take the psych tests? how about being accused of being a meth user (sounds familiar to your accusation) simply because you are trying to fit in and be healthy? I hope you are happy.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: Pandora]
    #7709552 - 12/03/07 02:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Pandora said:
I don't do meth, although I have seen plenty of friends and friends' family go down. I'm plenty hyper to accommodate it though - I just jumped to conclusions. I am in a bit of a bad mood due to my own issues tonight so I apologize if I came off wrong. My honey is 3000 miles away and it got to me today.

Anyway, call shenanigans. I speak truth. I have and can show pictures of my scars. I have been bulimic for over 10 years and cannot prove that since my friends would kill me to know my disorder is still active. I now love being alive, and love my dogs. they truly give me hope. If you want to talk further, or see pictures further, PM me. If you think I am liar, I really mourn for you and society. Would you like to hear my ups and downs as a person with an eating disorder? Have you ever watched yourself bleed hoping you wouldn't wake up? How about taking so many laxatives you were ashamed to use the restroom? Oh- what about wanting to donate an egg or sperm, but afraid to take the psych tests? how about being accused of being a meth user (sounds familiar to your accusation) simply because you are trying to fit in and be healthy? I hope you are happy.




Umm, when i said "Bold:" I meant in regrad to what I had bolded in your post. The only thing I was calling shenanigans on was that you taught yourself to read at age 2.


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Re: Society hates smart people [Re: d33p]
    #7709560 - 12/03/07 02:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I also was swimming at 2. Why is it so hard to believe smart people are smart?


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