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Piece Coir, is it too big?
    #7697127 - 11/29/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

So I bought some coir from a Hydroponics Supply store the other day and it turns out I bought piece coir. Which seems to be just bigger chunks than normal coir. Specifically I bought the 2.5 cu ft block on the bottom of this page. I meant to buy just the normal coir brick up above. Do you think this is going to be a problem for using it as a bulk substrate?

http://www.midwesthydroponics.com/products/pdf/hydroponics/FIB3b.pdf


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: Nem]
    #7698043 - 11/30/07 09:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Bump for morning crew.

If I need to I can return this stuff and buy the finer stuff. It's just the store is a half hour away.


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: Nem]
    #7698067 - 11/30/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Nem said:
I bought piece coir.




For a second I thought you said Peace Core.....

Your fine. Actually you are better off then some since coir can be hard to break up....


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: Nem]
    #7698077 - 11/30/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm, i couldn't find a lot of information about piece coir. I've never heard of it. It looks like something that would work. I found a post in an article from a guy who stated that he used it before. I would use it.


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7698221 - 11/30/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you're talking about the stuff that's about half the size of a sugar cube, it works fine as a substrate.
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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7698293 - 11/30/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Beautiful thank guys.

I don't know what you mean about being the size of a sugar cube. But it has the small coir fibers then it has some chunks in there too that are more mulch sized.

And holy shit this is a lot of coir. I bought the big 2.5 cubic foot brick because it was cheaper per volume, much cheaper. But my god I didn't realize how much that was. It turns out 5 gallons is only .55 cubic ft. I am definitely gonna have to break this up and hydrate it in smaller portions.


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: Nem]
    #7698341 - 11/30/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LOl, a good problem to have right there.  :laugh:  Good Luck!


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7698816 - 11/30/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Do what I use to do. Weigh a chunk call it z and then dunk it in x amount of water.

After it has full expanded and rung out measure out how much water is left and call it y.

Now subtract y from x and get how much water it took to hydrate that chunk. Now divide that into your chunk weight to find out how much water you need for how much weight....

You can also formulate similar equations to figure out how much space you have and measure exactly :smile:


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Re: Piece Coir, is it too big? [Re: BreakfastClub]
    #7699167 - 11/30/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Do what I use to do. Weigh a chunk call it z and then dunk it in x amount of water.

After it has full expanded and rung out measure out how much water is left and call it y.

Now subtract y from x and get how much water it took to hydrate that chunk. Now divide that into your chunk weight to find out how much water you need for how much weight....

You can also formulate similar equations to figure out how much space you have and measure exactly :smile:




If you are going to mix instead of layer when spawning be sure and leave some extra coir to cover the top layer once it is in the tub.  This will cover all the exposed grain, cake or whatever.  Leaving it exposed is a bad idea as your jar substrate is usually much more likely to contam than coir is.

I mixed three grabage bags, and forgot to keep any to the side for this reason.  I spent about a hour pulling little bits of coir out, and covering my grain.  Save yourself the trouble.


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