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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: FrenziedTortoise]
#7697525 - 11/30/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never done DMT, but I did successfully extract 2.6 grams of it, clear crystals. I had just begun a lengthy sober period after bringing my inner self to the tip of chaos, so I threw it all in the garbage before I did any of it. That was several years ago now, and it's a shame. I've thrown out so much in desperate times - sheets\a vial of acid, coke, cut down plants, the precious DMT, pills, molly...
The only ones that I feel are worth kicking myself over are the vial of acid and the DMT. I actually poured the LSD into a flower pot. No, it didn't grow all trippy.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Disco Cat]
#7697543 - 11/30/07 02:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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NO
I haven't tried everything (yet)
but I have been around enough to know that acid is weak (compared to other psychedelics anyway)
- I KNOW that mushrooms are 'middle ground' - I KNOW that acid will fuck with yer mind...but...very little of anything else - and I KNOW that slavia will fuck with yer vision (and perception, in general) whist simultaneously keeping everything intact
but I also 'know' (from hear-say anyway) that DMT will put ALL this shit to shame
and so: I *have to* believe that's the case
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Muppet]
#7697567 - 11/30/07 03:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what about datura? nobody mentioned the days of serious delirium and altered reality from belladonna's
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7697778 - 11/30/07 07:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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of the ones i've tried.. 2ct7.. not only do you visually hallucinate.. you hear, touch and taste your hallucinations... all while forgetting that you took something. I'd close my eyes and open them forgetting that i was tripping for a minute.. just be like, "what the fuck is going on!" and then see the note i wrote for myself: "you took 2ct7 @ 10:30" "ohhhh yeahhh!"
i'm sure that the belladonna/datura trips are some of the most intense... but, i don't plan on finding out.
ayahuasca and iboga would have to be up there too... for pure spiritual wow-factor.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7697816 - 11/30/07 07:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Salvia. The intensity of it is far beyond anything else I have tried. It's in a whole other category from anything else I have tried. My first breakthrough left me shell-shocked.
I haven't tried DMT yet, but I gather it is rather similar to Salvia.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: trendal]
#7697848 - 11/30/07 07:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's tough. Of the stuff I've tried:
E is definatelly pretty hardcore sometimes. I mean you go from 0 to lalaland real quick
Crank/Meth is pretty rough too. Intensity no.. but as far as the potential to damange your life it's pretty fuckin bad.
I combo of LSD and K is pretty fuckin wack combo as well.
As far as shit I HAVEN'T TRIED:
I'd guess crack is probably #1 as far as physical intensity.
I'd imagine DMT is probably most intense of anything.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: BrAiN]
#7697861 - 11/30/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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4th plateau DXM trip is worth mentioning, even though I gave that shit up years ago. It was like I didn't know who I was for like 3 days. The intense part was trying to function like a normal human being when you keep having this nagging feeling that you don't even exist anymore. Not a good experience.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: D4NK]
#7698216 - 11/30/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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How about a combo? IMO LSD and K are the most intense so far. A high dose of K while under the influence of LSD blasted me further than I ever thought possible. It felt like how most people explain DMT.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: danlennon3]
#7698263 - 11/30/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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danlennon3 said: How about a combo? IMO LSD and K are the most intense so far. A high dose of K while under the influence of LSD blasted me further than I ever thought possible. It felt like how most people explain DMT.
That's what I'm saying. I did that combo once and wooOOooo
Never again
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: BrAiN]
#7698524 - 11/30/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you think LSD and K is intense, try taking a very large dose of lsd ( or mushrooms ) on a decent dose of dxm ( it can even be the day after ). You trip beyond befief, I've tried everything, and a lot of it, and nothing compares to that...not dmt not salvia, not any other drug combo.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Conservationist]
#7698576 - 11/30/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Conservationist said: If it begins with a J and smells bad, can I mention it?
Fag!!!!
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: PeterGriffin467]
#7698616 - 11/30/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm surprised more people on here haven't tried DMT. Just order mimosa on the internet and you can have very nice DMT crystals within a week.
In my experience DMT and Salvia are the strongest. It's hard to pick one but if I had to it would be Salvia, just because under the Salvia spell there was nothing in my experience that even remotely resembled what I know to be reality. At least in DMT certain aspects of it were recognizable.
Salvia was like putting my brain in a blender and setting it to "ice crush". It was completely disconcerting and as confusing as possible, while making me sweat profusely. As soon as I remembered that I had done Salvia, I was counting down the seconds until I was sober again. I've only done it once.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Plok]
#7698631 - 11/30/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have tried that mimosa thing a few times. Never worked for me. I guess I just suck at it.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7698646 - 11/30/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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DMT and very potent salvia extract are about equal as far as my experience goes. Salvia can be alittle more on the scary side though, while DMT is usually more delightful.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Muppet]
#7698744 - 11/30/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Muppet said: but I have been around enough to know that acid is weak (compared to other psychedelics anyway)
Maybe the shit you're getting, but I assure you acid has taken me places that no other drug has been able to.
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- I KNOW that acid will fuck with yer mind...but...very little of anything else
I always get the best visuals off of acid.
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- and I KNOW that slavia will fuck with yer vision (and perception, in general) whist simultaneously keeping everything intact
That's the exact opposite of my experience with it. I never get any visuals with salvia. Just a complete mind-fuck.
You might want to double-check on what you KNOW to be true.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Silversoul]
#7698758 - 11/30/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You might want to double-check on what you KNOW to be true.
I know it to be true.
Anyone who does enough Salvia to break through is going to have some visuals - be they simple distortions of reality or entire "realities" made up seemingly from nowhere. If you haven't experienced this with Lady S...then I'm sorry but you haven't done enough (or properly).
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: trendal]
#7698779 - 11/30/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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trendal said: You might want to double-check on what you KNOW to be true.
I know it to be true.
Anyone who does enough Salvia to break through is going to have some visuals - be they simple distortions of reality or entire "realities" made up seemingly from nowhere. If you haven't experienced this with Lady S...then I'm sorry but you haven't done enough (or properly).
Oh I've tripped pretty fucking hard on salvia. The first time I broke through, I thought that I was the paint on the wall, and that the universe had just begun, and consisted entirely of what was contained in the room. But my visual field did not change. Just my mind's interpretation of it.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Silversoul]
#7698811 - 11/30/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first time I smoked salvia (which was the first drug I had ever used. I had never even been drunk before this) "I" was instantly transported into a world made of multi-colored playdough, and I was being sucked down into a multi-colored playdough vortex, reaching out for trees and mailboxes that were swirling around me, trying to catch hold of ANYTHING that would keep me from being sucked down into non-existance. Eventually I would reach the bottom of the vortex and would cease to exist for a brief second, but then would be spit back out to the top of the vortex. This whole deal repeated several times, and I was scared shitless. Then the face of my friend started swirling around in the vortex too and everything became funny and I was back in the garage I smoked it in.
I would say thats probably THE most intense experience I've ever had.
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: Silversoul]
#7698831 - 11/30/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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But my visual field did not change. Just my mind's interpretation of it.
What do you think other "hallucinations" are!
That wall isn't really covered in a fine fuzz, when you're on mushrooms...
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Re: What do you think is the most heavy/intense drug and why? [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7699114 - 11/30/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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