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Ron Paul has my vote
    #7696233 - 11/29/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

In my opinion, he is the only candidate of genuine character and seems to stand by his convictions. I have 100% faith in him to downsize the federal government if he were elected.

Just wanted to say that he is getting my vote.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
    #7696301 - 11/29/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think Dennis Kucinich shows genuine character and integrity as well. I think even Mike Huckabee has the same thing going for him, although I vehemently disagree with his positions.

I've debated whether I'm going to vote for Kucinich or Paul. I agree with Kucinich on more issues, but there's something about Ron Paul that seems like such a breath of fresh air. To me, he embodies the antithesis of the direction this country has been headed under the Bush administration. I'm a little concerned about his position on abortion(as well as things like the environment and various social services), but I don't actually expect him to get elected, so I'm not really worried about that. What's important to me is the overall vision he represents. I still may end up going with Kucinich, but I've already donated money to the Ron Paul campaign, and wish him the best of luck.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
    #7696302 - 11/29/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Cool.:thumbup:

Do you know if you have to be registered Republican in your state to vote in the primary election?

Some states have closed primaries and you have to be registered to vote with the Republican party by a certain date. Some states have already passed their dead line to register with them.

Others are open.

You can switch out of the party right after you vote if you want to.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7696322 - 11/29/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i am registered republican. so i am all set.

i see what you are saying SS. and i agree wholeheartedly with the "breath of fresh air" sentiment. that's exactly how I feel as well. I don't agree with him on every single issue, but when was the last time we ever had a candidate that you or anyone else agreed with them on every issue? the thing about Paul is, what he says is what he means, and there isn't any double talking going on. i respect that and i think it's what america needs.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
    #7696694 - 11/29/07 08:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7696698 - 11/29/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's for the 12/16 Tea Party.... We need all the support we can get for that. :smile:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
    #7696770 - 11/29/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7696897 - 11/29/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: afoaf]
    #7696980 - 11/29/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: afoaf]
    #7697187 - 11/29/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7697637 - 11/30/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ya, awesome. trade drugs for votes, because that's the kind of PR Paul would need in the long run, right?


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7701991 - 12/01/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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At least i'm thinking outside the box. At the current rate I don't believe anyone actually thinks Ron Paul is really going to even register in the final results.




That's because you have virtually no information with which you are making your judgement. Whose lens are you looking through, pray tell? What is your source of information as to what is actually happening with the primaries?

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Ron Paul might have a few more of the younger voters, but still not enough to make a dent.




More baseless conclusions from a state of not knowing. Ron Paul is hovering close to 10% in a lot of primary polls, which brings the MSM to express that he is capable, at the very least, of swaying this election with his support, and the next month will be a watershed for Ron Paul support, especially as he has now raised more money this quarter, with one month to go, than any candidate raised in the last quarter (no one else's campaign keeps a live, running total because it'd be embarassing for them :smirk:). Prominent voices in the MSM are requesting hours of talk-time with Ron Paul, and the Boston Tea Party on the 16th of December is going to be another stellar, record-setting haul of donations. The grass-roots effort is now getting its people and sending its money into New Hampshire at the strategic moments - the grass-roots movement, of course, representing a lot more money spent on his campaign than what he has officially received as donations... Not only this, but Ron Paul's blimp is said to be launched in the first half of this month, and that'll be unprecedented. :yesnod:

Ron Paul's supporters aren't simply "young votes". Ron Paul's typical supporter does not fit within any real demographic, beyond the fact that they are Americans who care about their freedom.

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So instead of responding simply with a cute little animation, why don't offer at least one way to motivate that group of people to vote & to vote for him? 




Hey dude.... let me tell you a secret. :smirk:

There is a very well-organized, active and populated, de-centralized grass-roots organization that is doing just this, as well as an official campaign that uses its nice sum of money very wisely to reach everyone. This is happening, it is there, and it is underestimated. Maybe you should start looking around to see what is going on. :wink:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702082 - 12/01/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Ron Paul is hovering close to 10% in a lot of primary polls...




I call bullshit. Please provide links to just three out of this "lot of" in support of your assertion. And no, internet polls don't count. I want real polls of registered Republican voters likely to vote in the Republican primaries.

Thank you.




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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Phred]
    #7702135 - 12/01/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

last I saw he was 8% in new hampshire straw polls


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: BrAiN]
    #7702173 - 12/01/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Straw polls are crap. See other thread about Romney stuffing.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Phred]
    #7702178 - 12/01/07 09:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/19/thompson-skids-while-romney-paul-climb-in-nh-poll/

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson has skidded into sixth place in a new CNN/WMUR poll of likely Republican voters in New Hampshire, edged out by ex-Libertarian and anti-war congressman Ron Paul and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

The CNN/WMUR poll was conducted by the University of New Hampshire between Wednesday and Sunday. Pollsters surveyed 404 Republican voters for the survey, which had a sampling error of 5 percentage points.

Meanwhile, the percentage of support for Paul grew from 4 percent to 8 percent, putting him fourth among the GOP contenders in the Granite State.

The Texas congressman, who once ran for president on the Libertarian Party ticket, has gained notice as the sole advocate of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq among the GOP field — and he raised eyebrows in Washington earlier this month when supporters claimed to have raised $4.3 million in a single day of online fund-raising. The figure can't be independently confirmed until Federal Election Commission reports are filed at the end of the year.




http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/candidates/Ron-Paul.html

This has him with averages of state polls for the month of November... 7% in NH, 7% in SC, 7.3% in NV...

Now, the only real room for discussion is what you would define as "hovering close to 10%", and I think that he's pushing 7.5 to 8% in some of these early primary states, after essentially doubling in two weeks time, coupled with his gains money-wise and coverage-wise towards the end of this month, not to mention the huge prospects for December, and he's pushing closer to 10% than anything.

Let's not forget that the nature of these polls kind of excludes representation of the bulk of Ron Paul's supporters that will actually vote in the primaries for him regardless...


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702191 - 12/01/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Those numbers are just as close to 4 as they are to 10. Which is what his national numbers are. They also curiously exist only after steep one month increases in all the states mentioned. Respectively:
Nevada 1.0 to 7.3
NH 4.8 to 7.0
SC 3.0 to 7.0
NH is the only one I would credit as a sign of genuine.......what? Certainly not strength.
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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702520 - 12/01/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: kotik]
    #7702528 - 12/01/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7702624 - 12/01/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Look, I know you wanna think Ron Paul is gonna make in impact in the main election, but that just isn't going to be the case. Like I said, virtually all the people who voted for Bush or Kerry in the last election are also gonna vote for either Rudy or Hillary (assuming they get their parties nominations) in next year's elections.




So, essentially, you haven't even been paying attention to the Republican primaries, to actually know what has been happening, right?

Giuliani certainly doesn't have any kind of hold on winning these primaries. He's now facing the questioning of how he makes political decisions (his cronies getting in trouble), as well as expenses for trips to the Hamptons being picked up by the taxpayers. He has less delegates in New Hampshire than Ron Paul does. His views on foreign policy are being increasingly questioned after everyone realizes its the same view as George W. Bush has.

The truth is that most Republicans are still trying to figure out who is capable of representing them this year the most. I don't think you actually watch what is happening.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7702644 - 12/01/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Edit: In the 2000 presidential elections, Ralph Nader (running fiercely independent from the mainstream of politics) got under 3% of the vote as the Green Party candidate, & only just under 0.5% in the 2004 presidential elections as an independent candidate. In the 2008 presidential elections, what do you honestly think Ron Paul (also running fiercely independent from the mainstream of politics) is going to get, assuming he runs as an independent after losing in the GOP primary?




I don't know why you would assume that he is running independent?

Ron Paul isn't Ralph Nader, and the situation America is in isn't anywhere near the same.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7702696 - 12/01/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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ya, awesome. trade drugs for votes, because that's the kind of PR Paul would need in the long run, right?




You are aware that, if it came to light, none of the people who would be seriously offended by that would ever consider voting for him in the first because, you know, he's "weak on defense".




The drugs for votes is bad idea. People should vote for a candidate because they believe in them, not in exchange for drugs. If the national media (who are now perusing the internet to get scoops on Paul's campaign, and have been known to post links to posts like this in there Blogs, you could do some damage!

They love digging up sirt on pauls supporters because they can't find any on him.

Please drop it.

Please also provide a weak showing that Paul is weak on national Defence.

To the contrary , Paul has been HIGHLY critical of just how weak he thinks our national defence is, from weakened border security, to a sloppy CIA, to a Military running out of money and troops. The problem is so bad, we have had to send national Guard patrolling our borders, over to Iraq to patrol there's we are sitting ducks right now.

Paul wants to quit the Foreign Policing and Nation Building over seas, in exchange for making friends to trade with, and use that money to BEEF UP National Defence here at home!!! He wants to send smaller private groups after Al Queda individuals abroad.

The U.S. Can no afford this foreign Policy of Policing the world. We are running into serious national debt, having to borrow from foreign countries like China and will soon go Bankrupt.

Paul is STRONG on clearly understanding the global and financial mess we are in policing the world and using our Military to enforce U.N. resolutions and to secure Oil for western oil companies.

He wants to beef up defence at home.

If you have proof to anything that says otherwise, please post it. FYI- national defence at home is about as weak as it has ever been under the current administration and policy. troop moral, desertions and suicides are at their worst ever. Our military is falling to weak sauce at a rapid pace. Ron Paul consistantly gets more donations from U.S. military personel then any other war mongering candidate for a reason. They know he is right on all of this and they are backing him with their money.

Oh, and on Political chowder, a NH show, those people are saying that where they use to see Bush lawn signs, they are seeing Ron Paul lawn signs in their yards.

How many times does everyone have to be reminded that the "Scientific polls," poll those who were registered with the republican party that voted in the last primary.

Any idea how many people that leaves out who have since registered republican , if they need to in their state, who will be voting for Paul in this Primary.

Those polls are meaningless when it comes to the candidate, getting people coming out to register and vote for the first time ever in a primary , and pulling from the registered Democrats, Independents, and 3rd parties.

For example, Paul wins our polls here, and most of his supporters here, say they will be voting for him in their states primary. How many of them do you think voted in the last republican primary? probably zero.

When it comes to Paul, those polls are far from painting an accurate picture of voter turn out for him in the primaries.

My mom and sister were registered Dems. they will be voting for Paul in the Illinois primary. I was registered with the Green Party and re-registered Republican to vote for Paul in the Florida Primary.

This is what is happening on a large scale across the country and the 'scientific polls" are not measuring it at all.


Guess what everyone?

Paul raised more money in the first 2 months of this quarter then any other republican candidate did in the whole of the last quarter. He is over $10,000,000 now. The Boston Tea Party money bomb scheduled for the 16th, expects to raise another $10,000,000. Paul is going to be able to dominate the advertising in the early states.

Get a clue to what has been going on.

Someone put up and idea for a Ron Paul Blimp a few weeks ago. The goal was to raise, $400,000. They raised and passed it already. This is one example of how utterly crazed, dedicated, motivated, and organized paul supporters are to get him national media attention, more supporters and the nomination.


Rudy Giuliani said to Paul after the last debate " You have a lot of supporters" Paul responded by saying, " And it's only the beginning"

You all ain't seen nothing yet.

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7702698 - 12/01/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Those numbers are just as close to 4 as they are to 10.




Yes, but he is on an upward trend, and there is no sign that his momentum will not continue through the month of December. The media has been covering him more and other candidates are starting to spar with him - a sign that they feel threatened by the standard that he sets for the primary campaigns. I think John McCain, by the way, hurt himself more by trying to jab at Ron Paul with the statement that having a non-intervention policy in the '30's was the reason why Adolph Hitler came to take over most of Europe. :what:

The climate that Ron Paul's presence in creating doesn't translate into high MSM poll numbers and debate minute time yet, but there is clearly other convincing signs of this as just the beginning for his movement. :yesnod:

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  Which is what his national numbers are.  They also curiously exist only after steep one month increases in all the states mentioned. 




Which is likely an observable consequence of Ron Paul's usage of money in these states in the last month, when he began to start doing so, especially after 11/5, which also brought to him a lot of MSM attention. As I've already stated, the month of December will change everything even more, and, as I said, Ron Paul is on an upward trend, with no real sign that he is getting weaker.

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He is going nowhere.




Then you aren't paying attention. :sorry:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702756 - 12/01/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7702773 - 12/01/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7702787 - 12/01/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Considering how much you've pretty much misunderstood about the subject, I think you must be living in a different solar system. :smirk:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702804 - 12/01/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7702846 - 12/01/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

He's not really a snowball in hell. Most of his ideas and stances aren't extreme for the Republican party traditionally. A lot of his ideas are similar to the ones that Ronald Reagan had, and Republicans seem to adore Ronald Reagan. He's reaching a lot of people that would otherwise not vote Republican - a very active, progressive, younger blood. He's demonstrated a way of campaigning and utilization of the internet that could benefit the party if they followed him. Not only that, but he can also keep the Christian conservatives who have not really been happy with their choices and have speculated about going to a third party.

Sometimes the most effective means of achieving success is not through the status quo, and I think that it only makes sense that party leaders and others involved do not take an encompassing view and develop a sense of what is happening in their party.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7702892 - 12/01/07 01:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

he has my vote too! Rockefeller is scared of him.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7703124 - 12/01/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> Are you gonna tell me with a straight face that you think Ron Paul has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination?

I think he has a lot better chance than most non-supporters give him credit for, yet I think he has a lot worse chance than most of his supporters would like to believe. I certainly wouldn't write him off, if for no other reason than the tenacity of his supporters. We will know soon enough, but he has the potential to stun a lot of people. Of course, he could flop just as easily. Time will tell.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Seuss]
    #7703155 - 12/01/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7703160 - 12/01/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ron Paul is from a red state, and has continued to be re-elected by his district over and over, despite the efforts of the more fascist wing of the party.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Silversoul]
    #7703194 - 12/01/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7703458 - 12/01/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I just know that in a lot of 'red' states that are very, how should I say politely... proto-fascist... Ron Paul isn't even gonna show up on the radar in the state's GOP primaries.




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When's the first GOP primary? It will be interesting to see how he does.




You know.... It is strange.

For some reason, I feel no need to consider that your perspective on his registering on the radar screen in the GOP primaries resemble the nature of reality, quite possibly, because you don't even know which state has the first primary, or when it takes place. :strokebeard:

I'm willing to chance that Ron Paul will win the New Hampshire primary. There is a lot of positive reasons to be optimistic about that state for him. The simple fact that the primary is open will really help him receive votes. He has more delegates than Giluliani in that state. I've heard commentary from local politicians on round-table all affirm the very real presence of Ron Paul and his support there. Apparently the state is a sea of Ron Paul signs. :cool:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Seuss]
    #7703508 - 12/01/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I certainly wouldn't write him off, if for no other reason than the tenacity of his supporters.




There has to be a reason he receives so much support, in the ways in which he does. :sherlock:

His record and experience are rock-solid. He is willing to stand for ideals over any special-interests. He doesn't compromise what he stands for, and what he stands for is the ideals this country was founded upon. That resonates with people because it expresses and defends the basic human rights that all human beings have. He is increasingly more effective in communicating with the media and in debates. He raises the most money in the GOP now. He has clearly stood for removing our troops from Iraq in mere months, something which most Americans want to happen - especially the troops, it seems, who have donated more money to Ron Paul than all other GOP candidates combined... troops in which more Iraqi war veterans have committed suicide than have died in combat...

He's charismatic and full of energy. He's endearing. He actually acts as someone who is aware of what this country really needs and is bold enough to stand for it in the face of a status quo majority. He respects the sovereignity of individuals and trusts that we can take care of ourselves if we are given incentives, if our money is not taken away for unnecessary federal spending, if we are given more opportunity to actively participate in our government by shifting the center of government back towards the states, closer to the will of the people.

The people are noticing it, the media is noticing it, and I'm quite sure that senior politicans and everyone who is watching are noticing it as well. :thumbup:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7703646 - 12/01/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7704865 - 12/02/07 12:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, since all the hics in the state you live in are informed solely by the television or radio news networks, who ignore or downplay Ron Paul consistently, since they are behind their pet candidate Clinton2, you are probably right. In the end, the nightly news picks the president.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7705393 - 12/02/07 03:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Nice cheapshot. Because I don't know the specific date of an event, I must have no clue whatsoever on how Ron Paul is going to do in the state in which I live.




You didn't express that, at that point, you were talking about your specific state. You referred to Red-leaning states, and did not clarify that you were speaking for only one state.

My point is in regards to the perspective on Ron Paul's chances in general, anyways... I'm making it clear that you haven't been paying attention, so your vauge, unsubstantiated ideas of what is actually happening in the primaries and with candidates' chances are pretty uninformed.

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Whenever the Republican Party in my state has their primary, I'm gonna PM you the results of how Ron Paul does.




No need; I am going to follow the results on my own, since I'm actually interested in what is happening in them. :sherlock:

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It would be wonderful if I am refuted




You've already been refuted, the only question is if you, by luck, made an accurate prediction.

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, but I'm not gonna hold my breath (both because I'm 99% sure he'll do poorly, & because I don't know when the primary is).




Define precisely what you mean by "poorly", and which state in particular we are referring to, and we can objectively determine if you have any basis on reality.

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Viveka]
    #7706293 - 12/02/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7706305 - 12/02/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What state? I thought you were a 'nuck.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7706319 - 12/02/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7706393 - 12/02/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Your frame of reference has been refuted. As I said, we won't know if you just happened to get lucky or not until it happens. :lol:

Which state primary?


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7706416 - 12/02/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: BrAiN]
    #7706428 - 12/02/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

He's all like "Don't go there sista!" :smirk:


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7707236 - 12/02/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7707310 - 12/02/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If anyone cares about straw polls, Paul just won one in Northern VA.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7707323 - 12/02/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, since all the hics in the state you live in... are behind their pet candidate Clinton2.





Here's what I said:

Well, since all the hics in the state you live in are informed solely by the television or radio news networks, who ignore or downplay Ron Paul consistently, since they are behind their pet candidate Clinton2, you are probably right. In the end, the nightly news picks the president.

The way you edited my quote completely changes the meaning. You should be wary of such careless, creative editing. Accurate reading comprehension is a critical part of forum discussion.

What I meant is those hics decide who to vote for based on what the mainstream news presents.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: BrAiN]
    #7707373 - 12/02/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i love your new avater, FG




Me too!  Someone sent it to me to use, but without a supporter account, I can't upload a file that size.

Glad to see someone found it and is using it.:)  I love that smirk on his face.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Viveka]
    #7708118 - 12/02/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: BrAiN]
    #7708190 - 12/02/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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If anyone cares about straw polls, Paul just won one in Northern VA.




No doubt, the crowed was there to support the 38% results.

Quick reading of the results and crowed reaction there-I love it!!-



The crowed was also there in Alabama to support the 81% win results. I love listening to a Paul crowed go apeshit. Scoot up to minute 6:22 in this video for the results reading and crowed reaction.








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    #7708238 - 12/02/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hilarious is the word describing pauls run for gove


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: machination]
    #7708341 - 12/02/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is my first year to be able to vote in the president election.. was barely too young in '04.. I just found out that here in Oklahoma we don't even get a say so in primaries! pisses me off a lot :thumbdown: I really don't think my vote here will matter when it comes down too it. This democracy is very fucked up.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7710016 - 12/03/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Man I love watching vids like that! It is just becoming so clear to those of us who bother to pay attention to this race just how corrupt and make believe our national media actually is. I drive around my state and I have yet to see one single sign for any candidate except Ron Paul. Yet they keep telling us he has 1-2% of the vote. Who the fuck are they calling to get their numbers? Who is saying they would vote for romney or ghouliani and won't even bother to put up a sign in their yard? It's quite obvious that national polls are worthless and Ron Paul is the CLEAR front runner of this race. Their attempts to ignore and marginalize him are failing miserably!

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
    #7721564 - 12/05/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't want to start another Ron Paul post for this. I thought it was funny. Look at the language the sign to the left of this is in.

Perfect placement for that Billboard in IOWA!!! :rofl2:



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    #7721917 - 12/05/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:  Nice and poignant!


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    #7725069 - 12/06/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7725131 - 12/06/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

exactly. nafta has trapped latin america in 3rd and 2nd world poverty for good :frown: lets not forget that we recieve hundreds of thousands if not millions of illegal immigrants from all of latin america not just mexico.


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Re: Ron Paul has my vote [Re: Syle]
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awesome candidate:)


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Gary Johnson is better by far.


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