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Well, it finally happened.
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I'm having a kid. My girlfriend normally has her period before the 23rd. The 24th we went and bought an EPT test (we've been worried about this for three weeks). It was positive, but it's alot less accurate if it's a few days before your expected period... so we thought (hoped) maybe she was just a little late. Well, it's five days later now, and I don't think it's going to happen. She keeps saying she can feel it (her period) coming. Is that normal in the first few weeks of pregnancy? This couldn't have happened at a worse time. Our roommate just moved out, we're really struggling just to make the bills. I've been trying to save up for a car.. She doesn't even want to talk about it. So I'm having to tip-toe around it when it's all I can think about. I asked her if she was the least bit excited, and she gave me a simple "No."
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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From my understanding, if it says positive, it's pretty fucking accurate that there is a pregnancy. However, if it says negative, there is still a marginal chance that it could be wrong.
Look like you're gonna have a baby. Good luck
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: D4NK]
#7695718 - 11/29/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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Its not like you don't have options. It doesn't sound like she's too happy about the idea of being pregnant, but if she says she feels her period coming, I'd believe her. Periods are not like clockwork all the time, sometimes stress or depression or other things can put them off track and sometimes you can even skip a month in rare cases. So just because she's a week off doesn't mean she's pregnant.
Take another test, and if your fears are confirmed, go to a doctor and confirm it again. Make sure you talk to her about what YOU want, as it is not entirely her decision.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7695802 - 11/29/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well you've given me more hope anyway. I might buy another pregnancy test, but going to the doctor about it right now is out of the question. Like I said, we're strapped for cash.
There's something else that makes me think she has to be getting her period soon.... but it's personal and is just a little too gross to mention here.
And if she is, I really don't have options. There's no way I can talk her into having an abortion. Adoption, forget that. As soon as that baby comes, there's no question whether we'll be keeping it or not. And I'll definitely be telling her about how I feel about it. I'm just treading lightly right now because it's, well, stressful.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7695817 - 11/29/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dunno, 5 days late and a positive reading on a home test... Just be certain, go to a doctor and find out for sure
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Exactly. Don't despair until you know for sure.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7696018 - 11/29/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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adrug said: Exactly. Don't despair until you know for sure.
LOL! like that's possible..
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I heard coat hangers in the late night work. But that is only from word of mouth I have not read any reputable scientific research on the topic.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7696032 - 11/29/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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deadendeavor said: Well you've given me more hope anyway. I might buy another pregnancy test, but going to the doctor about it right now is out of the question. Like I said, we're strapped for cash.
If she's pregnant and will want to keep it, then she really should go to a doctor. If she's young and unmarried and poor she can get government assistance and won't have to pay hardly anything. You can't just NOT go to a doctor.
Or better yet, go to a Planned Parenthood or something like that. That type of place usually does free pregnancy tests, just like you'd get at the doctors office.
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dont stress yet man. my last girlfriend was on the pill and her fucking period was all over the place. it wasnt ever the same, or on time.
give it 1-2 more weeks, then go get a real test at the doctor.
and if neither of you want a kid. get it taken care of.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7696038 - 11/29/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well you both don't want the baby, so abort it! simple as that.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7696552 - 11/29/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I asked her if she was the least bit excited, and she gave me a simple "No."
ouch
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7696678 - 11/29/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: MistaUNGA]
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I'm kinda in your situation. My girl missed her period by a little over a week so far. She's scared to get a test because of what it might say though. I say just get one so she stops freaking out. Never had unprotected sex and never had a condom break. The only possibility is if my soldiers went under around and through.
Regardless, I wish you good luck.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7696987 - 11/29/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congratulations?
I hope everything works out for you dude.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7697005 - 11/29/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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were you two using any sort of birth control at all?
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You know, it kind of makes me sick how at the mere mention of a late period, the coat hanger jokes come out. Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: CherryBom]
#7697061 - 11/29/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nobody has any comprehension of seriousness about ANYTHING on this forum.. Quite literally.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: CherryBom]
#7697219 - 11/29/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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CherryBom said: Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
Or the seriousness of a planet overpopulated in miserable people from broken homes...
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CherryBom said: Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
Or the seriousness of a planet overpopulated in miserable people from broken homes...
I hear that conserv. Every serious pro-lifer who is against abortion entirely should be required to adopt as many unwanted children as they can possibly accommodate. Or they should just shit the fuck up and let people do what they want with their own bodies.
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I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. I'm pro-choice.
I'm saying that the coat hanger jokes are getting out of hand.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: CherryBom]
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I have plenty of unused coat hangers though...
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Tangerines]
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I wish you both well....get counseling. There are LOADS of couples who will pay all expenses for a chance to adopt a healthy newborn. SO many unwanted pregnancies end with broken hearted couples crying over the loss either b/c the girl backed out and kept the child or b/c she got an abortion b/c she couldn't live with the 9 month results of her 1/2 of pleasure. It's more than 9months...it effects the REST of your life to know you gave up a child or terminated the pregnancy.
A woman can be up to 15 days late and more...btw. It's a sign that the pregnancy started but ended itself...body rejects sometimes for a good reason we're not privy to.
She needs to accept the reality regardless of which option she chooses. Getting another apt. mate is the least of your struggles now but put out ads and get that off your head during this time if you can. Money worries can stress one out to the point where the pregnancy is at risk...
If you choose termination, you don't want it via stress! She needs her space. Tell her you love her and will cooperate with any choice she makes...she'll feel your support and acceptance and will more likely involve you in the process....but be true to your word and support any choice.
I recommend adopting out at birth but it's not my bod or babe.
Good luck!!
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7697586 - 11/30/07 03:40 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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adrug said:
If she's pregnant and will want to keep it, then she really should go to a doctor. If she's young and unmarried and poor she can get government assistance and won't have to pay hardly anything. You can't just NOT go to a doctor.
Or better yet, go to a Planned Parenthood or something like that. That type of place usually does free pregnancy tests, just like you'd get at the doctors office.
right - Planned Parenthood was MADE for situations like this - they will see her for free (or for almost free), give her a pelvic exam, and tell you 100% if its a kid or not.
While there you could discuss options - If you are white, you may want to put it up for adoption - theres always a call for white infants. Abortion is always another option - unless thats not your thing. OoD
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7697724 - 11/30/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't throw away the next 20 years of your life, sparky.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: CherryBom]
#7697775 - 11/30/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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CherryBom said: You know, it kind of makes me sick how at the mere mention of a late period, the coat hanger jokes come out. Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
For someone like me it's lack of sympathy, if you don't wanna kid that bad don't have sex, if you get an abortion because of it well fuck you, get over it shut the fuck up, people don't deserve the right to have an abortion, they got pregnant by choice having sex is no accident, so to all you out there that get pregnant or get someone pregnant and don't want the kid, suck it up pussy it's your own damn fault. Ever seen how they pull the baby out and crush it's skull? I could post some pictures of aborted babies.......
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CherryBom said: You know, it kind of makes me sick how at the mere mention of a late period, the coat hanger jokes come out. Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
For someone like me it's lack of sympathy, if you don't wanna kid that bad don't have sex, if you get an abortion because of it well fuck you, get over it shut the fuck up, people don't deserve the right to have an abortion, they got pregnant by choice having sex is no accident, so to all you out there that get pregnant or get someone pregnant and don't want the kid, suck it up pussy it's your own damn fault. Ever seen how they pull the baby out and crush it's skull? I could post some pictures of aborted babies.......
congratulations on being a completely narrow-minded fuckwit. accidents happen, even on birth control or with the use of condoms.
it is absolutely 100% NOT your fucking choice in how a couple handles an early term pregnancy. and your trying to enforce your beliefs on other people is fucking ignorant, annoying, and unacceptable.
you don't agree with it? don't fucking have one. but shut the fuck up. you have no fucking idea what these two are going through right now and how much this could potentially fuck up the rest of their lives.
not to mention the poor kid that would have to be raised unwanted in a broken home by severely ill-prepared parents (assuming she wouldn't have the heart to put it up for adoption after she carries it around for 9 months and then endures the most intense experience of her life to birth it). call me crazy, but between the psychological suffering of a child for several years or an early term abortion when it's reminiscent of a peanut, I'd choose the latter.
and those baby skull crushing picture you have are of late-term abortions. early term abortions can be done simply with a pill that sheds the uterine lining. no baby. just an aborted congregation of cells that had the potential to form a baby.
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Thank you T_R_B. I was just about to succumb and lose the no masturbation contest and then I read your post. Blam! Boner gone.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: RandalFlagg]
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was it the phrase "sheds the uterine lining"? because that's a messy visual.
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CherryBom said: You know, it kind of makes me sick how at the mere mention of a late period, the coat hanger jokes come out. Apparently you guys have zero comprehension of the seriousness of abortion.
For someone like me it's lack of sympathy, if you don't wanna kid that bad don't have sex, if you get an abortion because of it well fuck you, get over it shut the fuck up, people don't deserve the right to have an abortion, they got pregnant by choice having sex is no accident, so to all you out there that get pregnant or get someone pregnant and don't want the kid, suck it up pussy it's your own damn fault. Ever seen how they pull the baby out and crush it's skull? I could post some pictures of aborted babies.......
Lucky for you, you don't have a uterus. So you won't ever have to make this decision!
Who the hell are you to decide what people do and don't have the right to do, anyway?
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: adrug]
#7701194 - 11/30/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks you guys for all the support/advice/general feedback. To clear up any misconceptions: Despite my fears that this is really happening, I'm not saying that I flat out DON'T want a kid. What I'm saying is it's bad timing. I realize it happens this way more often than not, but you just have to understand. Before you jump to the conclusion that the kid will be growing up unloved, in a broken home, et cetera, understand that that isn't the plan. I'm going to love that kid if it comes, which is looking more and more like the reality of it all. Yes I'm scared; I'm fucking terrified actually. But don't confuse that with hatred or regret or anything of the sort. If it happens, I'm going to do the right thing. When I said "Once the baby comes, there's no question whether or not we'll be keeping it"... that's me talking. I'm not giving my blood, my responsibility, my future down to anyone else. My fears are of losing my self, if you know what I mean. Am I a family man? Is that the thing I'm cut out for? Is this what I had in mind all along? It isn't an easy thing to deal with. It's still early, and I'm going to drive myself insane thinking about this. I'll update soon enough to let everyone know how things are. At this point, it's pretty much the same. She doesn't seem optimistic about it. I don't even know what I feel, other than anxiety. Hopefully when it all sinks in and we can accept it as not just a good possibility but inevitability, it won't be so stressful, mainly for her. Anyway, thanks guys. I mean it. You're the only people I can really talk to this about right now, and it helps having someone to listen, and give there input.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#7701262 - 11/30/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everything you're feeling right now is completely natural dude. Same for your girlfriend however you seem to be doing a lot better than her with the situation. It's going to take some time to really come to terms with it. I felt some of the same things when I found out I was going to be a father. I was 17 at the time and scared as fuck. It took a long time to accept it. You should definitely sit down with your girlfriend and go over your options and let her know how you feel about it and try to figure out whats going through her head. Let her know that you're there for her no matter what, that should sooth some of her worries.
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I've had a girl be as late as 2 1/2 weeks, all kinds of things can mess with a chicks period. I fucked her in the ass and bang she started right on the spot....it'd be a good excuse to fuck your chick in the ass even if it doesn't work right?
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: 2FiNiTe]
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2FiNiTe said: I fucked her in the ass and bang she started right on the spot....it'd be a good excuse to fuck your chick in the ass even if it doesn't work right?
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said: I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. I'm pro-choice.
I'm saying that the coat hanger jokes are getting out of hand.
time to ban the coat hanger jokes.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: RandalFlagg]
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It's a natural thing to have sex with out breeding. Plenty of species have sex for pleasure. The only thing fucked up about humans is that we now have a society that makes it harder and harder to support your off-spring. So if you can't afford, abort. It's better than making another miserable life for a child and spending my god damn taxes on the government help you need!
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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honest to god man consider abortion. it doesnt sound like you are nearly ready for this major decision in your life. wait until you are older, have more experience on your shoulders and at least have a place for that child, and are in a sure long term relationship.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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deadendeavor said: Thanks you guys for all the support/advice/general feedback. To clear up any misconceptions: Despite my fears that this is really happening, I'm not saying that I flat out DON'T want a kid. What I'm saying is it's bad timing. I realize it happens this way more often than not, but you just have to understand. Before you jump to the conclusion that the kid will be growing up unloved, in a broken home, et cetera, understand that that isn't the plan. I'm going to love that kid if it comes, which is looking more and more like the reality of it all. Yes I'm scared; I'm fucking terrified actually. But don't confuse that with hatred or regret or anything of the sort. If it happens, I'm going to do the right thing. When I said "Once the baby comes, there's no question whether or not we'll be keeping it"... that's me talking. I'm not giving my blood, my responsibility, my future down to anyone else. My fears are of losing my self, if you know what I mean. Am I a family man? Is that the thing I'm cut out for? Is this what I had in mind all along? It isn't an easy thing to deal with. It's still early, and I'm going to drive myself insane thinking about this. I'll update soon enough to let everyone know how things are. At this point, it's pretty much the same. She doesn't seem optimistic about it. I don't even know what I feel, other than anxiety. Hopefully when it all sinks in and we can accept it as not just a good possibility but inevitability, it won't be so stressful, mainly for her. Anyway, thanks guys. I mean it. You're the only people I can really talk to this about right now, and it helps having someone to listen, and give there input.
i didn't mean to insinuate that you wouldn't love your kid. but honestly, do you think you're going to be with your girlfriend for the long haul? are you seriously that certain that something won't come up down the road and you two will break up? if there happens to be a kid involved, then it will be an unfortunate victim of a broken home.
and i'm sure you're entirely capable of being a good, loving father. but you said it yourself. you are nowhere near financially secure. if you're having trouble making ends meet now... well... you have no fucking idea how expensive kids are. seriously. it's incredible. and i don't know about you, but i personally would not want anything short of the best i could possibly offer for my kid.
i personally would think of abortion as just putting things off until i was better prepared to raise a child.
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Consider alternatives to keeping the child. Sounds like your economic situation is at an unfavorable point for you to bring another lifeform forth.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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deadendeavor said: I'm having a kid. My girlfriend normally has her period before the 23rd. The 24th we went and bought an EPT test (we've been worried about this for three weeks). It was positive, but it's alot less accurate if it's a few days before your expected period... so we thought (hoped) maybe she was just a little late. Well, it's five days later now, and I don't think it's going to happen. She keeps saying she can feel it (her period) coming. Is that normal in the first few weeks of pregnancy? This couldn't have happened at a worse time. Our roommate just moved out, we're really struggling just to make the bills. I've been trying to save up for a car.. She doesn't even want to talk about it. So I'm having to tip-toe around it when it's all I can think about. I asked her if she was the least bit excited, and she gave me a simple "No."
If you don't have the financial means or desire to raise a child, I'd seriously consider other options.
Waiting until you're older to have a child makes that child much more likely to have a good life.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
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If you don't have the financial means or desire to raise a child, I'd seriously consider other options.
Waiting until you're older to have a child makes that child much more likely to have a good life.
I agree with the second part of your first statement but not the 1st which, according to my understanding meant that you were recommending which criterion should be used (financial considerations is the example I'll use since it's the one you used)...in other words, you may have said more accurately, that it's YOUR opinion that financial considerations should colour a potential parents decision...
I DO agree that there are other options/choices.
With that said I'll now ask you to please define "older"? Personally, imo, the age means less than the maturity level. There are 18 year olds perfectly capable of being good providers and I believe culture has much to do with that as N. Americans are generally spoiled and coddled and "protected" longer than young adults of other cultures...and Europe is a fast second if not exactly the same, England and west Europe for sure, same deal but eastern is still "behind" our "progress". Unfortunately, and that's only My opinion, Eastern Europe is catching up too and the Middle east...dang! It's good to the degree that it stops men from having multiple wives...(MIC gnashes teeth at the idea! lol) and from trading wives like cattle or keeping them likes slaves. EW!!!! I know, some of you guys think that sounds cool and convenient... ha
Nuff said...excuse the rant. MIC
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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Well, someone once told me that if you wait until you can afford kids you will never have them. 
If you and your partner decide to keep the baby, 9 months is a bit of time to plan for it, you could see about finding a better job and do what you need to do to get there (take a class, get an entry level position somewhere decent so you can ask for a raise in a year, some places that give benefits require you to work a certain length of time before you get coverage, etc).
I guess even though it's an emotional situation that doesn't mean you can't behave rationally.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: champ]
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champ said: Well, someone once told me that if you wait until you can afford kids you will never have them. 
If you and your partner decide to keep the baby, 9 months is a bit of time to plan for it, you could see about finding a better job and do what you need to do to get there (take a class, get an entry level position somewhere decent so you can ask for a raise in a year, some places that give benefits require you to work a certain length of time before you get coverage, etc).
I guess even though it's an emotional situation that doesn't mean you can't behave rationally.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: champ]
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I don't know about the rest of you but were I live it's like the state makes it so much easier for single moms now than ever before. I know plenty that only pay not even $100 for rent on a house and they just keep shitting out the babies left and right usually a different guy each time, I'm not saying that to be a dick it's true. They are so many places to get help, health care, food everything this is something that should be looked into for anyone who feels that can't afford it. Because if they give it to moms who don't even deserve to have kids why wouldn't they give it to someone who does and when I say someone who doesn't deserve it I mean the moms who drag their kids form guy to guy to guy to guy to guy, drive intoxicated with them in the car, you know irresponsible stuff like that.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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raise your kid in the way and the way will be good,
you are fortunate
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UnholyChild666 said: I don't know about the rest of you but were I live it's like the state makes it so much easier for single moms now than ever before. I know plenty that only pay not even $100 for rent on a house and they just keep shitting out the babies left and right usually a different guy each time, I'm not saying that to be a dick it's true. They are so many places to get help, health care, food everything this is something that should be looked into for anyone who feels that can't afford it. Because if they give it to moms who don't even deserve to have kids why wouldn't they give it to someone who does and when I say someone who doesn't deserve it I mean the moms who drag their kids form guy to guy to guy to guy to guy, drive intoxicated with them in the car, you know irresponsible stuff like that.
I don't know your point exactly but isn't this more reason to keep abortion legal?
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Love Cap]
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UnholyChild666 said: I don't know about the rest of you but were I live it's like the state makes it so much easier for single moms now than ever before. I know plenty that only pay not even $100 for rent on a house and they just keep shitting out the babies left and right usually a different guy each time, I'm not saying that to be a dick it's true. They are so many places to get help, health care, food everything this is something that should be looked into for anyone who feels that can't afford it. Because if they give it to moms who don't even deserve to have kids why wouldn't they give it to someone who does and when I say someone who doesn't deserve it I mean the moms who drag their kids form guy to guy to guy to guy to guy, drive intoxicated with them in the car, you know irresponsible stuff like that.
I don't know your point exactly but isn't this more reason to keep abortion legal?
My point is that it could be easier to keep the child with all the help that is available, if not that than adoption. Abortion can be VERY damaging emotionally, physically, I don't know why people don't understand that. Everyone throws it out there like it's some "simple solution" I don't agree with abortion because I don't believe there is such a thing as an accidental pregnancy there is no accident about having sex even with birth control. Abortion to me has nothing to with peoples rights I think it's just about not wanting to take responsibility for ones own actions. That statement right there pissed a lot of people off but thats only because it's true, if it wasn't they wouldn't get mad, threes only one thing that makes people more mad than a lie and that is the truth. The only exception I feel would be in the case of rape, but that should be taken care of immediate as hard as it may be. Even though lots of girls who have been raped go through with giving birth.
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I would definitely argue that if it is known that a possible child would be living in very bad conditions, and would grow up in a very unfavorable envirenment, that it would be merciful to wait until one is better prepared to do so.
I also believe people need to take responsibility for they're actions, however.
Don't mistake me for thinking abortion is an easy way out. I just think it would be worse to have a child that didn't even have a CHANCE for success.
I for one, feel that I am COMPLETELY financially unable to take care of a child. It just wouldn't be fair to them.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Xeluc]
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I think she should get an abortion, but that's just me. I wouldn't want to let a baby ruin my life. You can do something about the situation that would be better for everyone.. especially since you know about it so early.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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not only yours, possibly 3 in all. Possibly anyway.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Xeluc]
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More than likely.. most kids I know that were accidents didn't have a very good childhood
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
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also, the first time a child realizes that they were never meant to be, is traumatizing to say the least.
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I don't know your point exactly but isn't this more reason to keep abortion legal?
My point is that it could be easier to keep the child with all the help that is available, if not that than adoption. Abortion can be VERY damaging emotionally, physically, I don't know why people don't understand that. Everyone throws it out there like it's some "simple solution" I don't agree with abortion because I don't believe there is such a thing as an accidental pregnancy there is no accident about having sex even with birth control. Abortion to me has nothing to with peoples rights I think it's just about not wanting to take responsibility for ones own actions. That statement right there pissed a lot of people off but thats only because it's true, if it wasn't they wouldn't get mad, threes only one thing that makes people more mad than a lie and that is the truth. The only exception I feel would be in the case of rape, but that should be taken care of immediate as hard as it may be. Even though lots of girls who have been raped go through with giving birth.
look dude, I get how emotionally and physically damaging abortion could be. But it's not as nearly as damaging adoption could be. I don't know if you can imagine this (since you're a DUDE) but carrying a baby in your body for 9 months, then giving it away could be WAY more emotionally and physically damaging than aborting. Just wait until you're in the situation. We're over populated enough in this world, and if you choose not to have a baby, however you prevent it, the better off this world is, especially if you don't see yourself as a fit parent. There are too many orphans and starving children already. And giving your kid up for adoption isn't so easy anymore, Human services is running out of parents wanting to adopt, so now they let almost anyone adopt, and this includes abusive foster parents. If you think abortion is wrong, then what about the morning after pill? What about condoms? where do you draw that line of what is 'morally wrong'?
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For someone like me it's lack of sympathy, if you don't wanna kid that bad don't have sex, if you get an abortion because of it well fuck you, get over it shut the fuck up, people don't deserve the right to have an abortion, they got pregnant by choice having sex is no accident, so to all you out there that get pregnant or get someone pregnant and don't want the kid, suck it up pussy it's your own damn fault. Ever seen how they pull the baby out and crush it's skull? I could post some pictures of aborted babies.......
And I could show you pictures of me heathly prior to pregnancy, and ridiculously anorexic post pregnancy. If you aren't a woman, and haven't been pregnant STFU! I chose to have an abortion for 2 main reasons. 1: I lost almost 20 lbs on a 140 lb 5'6 frame in less than a month, and in almost 3 months I ate no more than 400 calories a day. You want to give up that much food?? That's less than a whopper a day! 2: I had done probably 7 or 8 drugs BEFORE I missed a period. Do YOU want to risk having a f'ed up kid???? I'm not saying it's the answer. I'm not saying it's not. I HATED being alive while I was pregnant. I honestly would have tried to commit suicide had I gone through with it. Don't judge. Whatever you (Unholy) and your girl decide, try to do it together. She will remember your support the rest of her life.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Pandora]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
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just toke up and ease your mind, it will all play out, just hang in there.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: gbeatle]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: gbeatle]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Pandora]
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For someone like me it's lack of sympathy, if you don't wanna kid that bad don't have sex, if you get an abortion because of it well fuck you, get over it shut the fuck up, people don't deserve the right to have an abortion, they got pregnant by choice having sex is no accident, so to all you out there that get pregnant or get someone pregnant and don't want the kid, suck it up pussy it's your own damn fault. Ever seen how they pull the baby out and crush it's skull? I could post some pictures of aborted babies.......
And I could show you pictures of me heathly prior to pregnancy, and ridiculously anorexic post pregnancy. If you aren't a woman, and haven't been pregnant STFU! I chose to have an abortion for 2 main reasons. 1: I lost almost 20 lbs on a 140 lb 5'6 frame in less than a month, and in almost 3 months I ate no more than 400 calories a day. You want to give up that much food?? That's less than a whopper a day! 2: I had done probably 7 or 8 drugs BEFORE I missed a period. Do YOU want to risk having a f'ed up kid???? I'm not saying it's the answer. I'm not saying it's not. I HATED being alive while I was pregnant. I honestly would have tried to commit suicide had I gone through with it. Don't judge. Whatever you (Unholy) and your girl decide, try to do it together. She will remember your support the rest of her life.
I'm not talking about people getting abortions because of health issues thats different. I'm talking about people having sex and not owning up to it just because they don't want a kid, can't afford one? better learn how, there are plenty of programs out there that will help the child people act like there sometimes no way to afford one, well there is always away you just can't give up thats weak and shameful thing to do. I don't believe in having sex with someone you aren't willing to have a child with. We could both go back and forth on this issue, but we shouldn't and I won't.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Love Cap]
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UnholyChild666 said: I don't know about the rest of you but were I live it's like the state makes it so much easier for single moms now than ever before. I know plenty that only pay not even $100 for rent on a house and they just keep shitting out the babies left and right usually a different guy each time, I'm not saying that to be a dick it's true. They are so many places to get help, health care, food everything this is something that should be looked into for anyone who feels that can't afford it. Because if they give it to moms who don't even deserve to have kids why wouldn't they give it to someone who does and when I say someone who doesn't deserve it I mean the moms who drag their kids form guy to guy to guy to guy to guy, drive intoxicated with them in the car, you know irresponsible stuff like that.
I don't know your point exactly but isn't this more reason to keep abortion legal?
My point is that it could be easier to keep the child with all the help that is available, if not that than adoption. Abortion can be VERY damaging emotionally, physically, I don't know why people don't understand that. Everyone throws it out there like it's some "simple solution" I don't agree with abortion because I don't believe there is such a thing as an accidental pregnancy there is no accident about having sex even with birth control. Abortion to me has nothing to with peoples rights I think it's just about not wanting to take responsibility for ones own actions. That statement right there pissed a lot of people off but thats only because it's true, if it wasn't they wouldn't get mad, threes only one thing that makes people more mad than a lie and that is the truth. The only exception I feel would be in the case of rape, but that should be taken care of immediate as hard as it may be. Even though lots of girls who have been raped go through with giving birth.
look dude, I get how emotionally and physically damaging abortion could be. But it's not as nearly as damaging adoption could be. I don't know if you can imagine this (since you're a DUDE) but carrying a baby in your body for 9 months, then giving it away could be WAY more emotionally and physically damaging than aborting. Just wait until you're in the situation. We're over populated enough in this world, and if you choose not to have a baby, however you prevent it, the better off this world is, especially if you don't see yourself as a fit parent. There are too many orphans and starving children already. And giving your kid up for adoption isn't so easy anymore, Human services is running out of parents wanting to adopt, so now they let almost anyone adopt, and this includes abusive foster parents. If you think abortion is wrong, then what about the morning after pill? What about condoms? where do you draw that line of what is 'morally wrong'?
Over popualtion is just apart of evolution, you can't stop even if wipe out a whole country the same thing would happen again. Getting an abortion to save the life of the mother would be an exception or if the child would have no function at all shit like that. I don't know enough about the morning after pill to comment on that. Truth is I don't have sex for this reason. Is that not more responsible than someone who made the choice to have sex and not wanting to deal with a child? Having a kid is a part of having sex even if it's just for pleasure. We could all go back and forth on this issue, but I'm done, this could go on forever and we both know it
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: MistaUNGA]
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I was taking a drink of orange juice when I saw this. I couldn't stop the laughter and OJ came out of my nose. Ouch!
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: allreadyused]
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: WScott]
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WScottsdale said: An abortion will remain with you for the rest of your life. So will a child.
That's the chance any couple takes when she's at her most fertile time of the month w/o the pill or the other very reliable forms of B.C.
I still wish the poster the best outcome possible under the circumstances...
How's she feeling?
BTW...all my pregnancies were wanted cuz as soon as I knew, I wated it b/c the other choice is to make yourself miserable over a gift. It may be a gift for one to keep or for one to give away but either way, the child has a soul from conception...imo
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: MyInnerChild]
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looks like you're screwed. she doesn't give a shit about the kid and seems too apathetic to even think about raising it or doing an abortion. looks like your life will be filled with xanax-flavored sunshine.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#7711711 - 12/03/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are newborns edible?
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Tangerines]
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sometimes i wish my parents would have aborted me.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: wrestler_az]
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I'm not impressing my beliefs, but I believe that someone's "soul" is nothing more than a collection of memories and teachings. I guess you could say I don't believe in a soul. If someone scrambles my brain, there IS no "me" left. The "me" is what people would call a soul. If the previous statements are considered, it seems to me unlikely that a spiritual soul exists, since there isn't a real medium to contain what the brain contains, and there is no "you" without the brain.
Applying that to abortion or no, I feel that a human being cannot have a "soul", or what I would call a collection of memories and teachings, until it is born. Until someone is self-aware, I can't consider them having what would be called a "soul". But this is the result of my firm atheism. It's just something to think about.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: wrestler_az]
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me too. this sucks.
ABORT!
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Re: Well, it finally happened. *DELETED* [Re: CherryBom]
#7713518 - 12/03/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: pB0t]
#7713545 - 12/03/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could just punch right about dead center here:
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: MyInnerChild]
#7714100 - 12/04/07 06:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
MyInnerChild said: I agree with the second part of your first statement but not the 1st which, according to my understanding meant that you were recommending which criterion should be used (financial considerations is the example I'll use since it's the one you used)...in other words, you may have said more accurately, that it's YOUR opinion that financial considerations should colour a potential parents decision...
I DO agree that there are other options/choices.
With that said I'll now ask you to please define "older"? Personally, imo, the age means less than the maturity level. There are 18 year olds perfectly capable of being good providers
... (EDITED BY K_O FOR SPACE)
Nuff said...excuse the rant. MIC
Whatever I say is my opinion, that's given. I think it's safe to assume that outside of an unknowable God, there is no objective perspective.
I did not mean "maturity." I meant age. The number of years you've been alive. The mother's age is the leading factor in the outcome of that child's life. If you have kids at 20, your kids are statistically much worse off than someone who waited until age 30 to breed. The citations I have for this are at home, it was mentioned in Freakonomics.
While there may be 18 year olds capable of being good providers, the odds are overwhelmingly against both their emotional and financial states being up to snuff.
EDIT: Format.
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Edited by Kid_Orgo (12/04/07 06:48 AM)
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#7714754 - 12/04/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anyone ver imagined a pregnant woman falling face first?
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breeding age is much earlier than 30, even 20.... it's because of this day in age that we're not capable of raising a child at 20. we can't 'afford' to.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Love Cap]
#7718511 - 12/05/07 05:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the time I was 30 I had 3 children.... 3rd had his circumcison on my 30th b-day in fact! 
We live frugally to allow for the needs of the kids....it's a measure we accept gladly...
Does anyone know couples who CAN'T conceive? The emotional pain and longing is unreal and that's from an outsiders observation. I'm grateful for what I have mostly b/c I look at children as a gift and partly b/c I'm not left bereft. Not a simple deal to deal with.
May we all have what and whom we need.... when we need it/them.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: MyInnerChild]
#8052482 - 02/21/08 04:02 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess it's time to blow the dust off this thread.
It's been three short months, and we're into the second trimester and in much better spirits. She's pretty much thrilled about it lately, which was my main concern before.
Me, I'm as happy as I can be. I'm naturally a worrier, but I'm two steps over the optimistic line. It's just crazy to realize that now I have something to worry about, really worry about, besides myself. It's a scary understanding, but it's one I have to accept.
That said, I really can't wait. It's such a rush, greater than any drug I've ever taken, to know that I'm going to be a father by the end of the year. I didn't know I had the capacity for such excitement. We're a little more financially stable. A very little more. But bills are being paid, and there's some money in the bank. A little some.
We don't know the gender yet, but we have heard the heartbeat ( ). We should know the sex in a couple of weeks. We both hope it's a boy.. but if not that's cool too. We don't have any boy names thought up though, and half a dozen girl names. She likes Augusten. Yeah. Like Asparagus. I hate it. Good boy names are tough.
We'll be playing music for him/her soon. That's going to be neat, being my unborn child's dj. I'm trying to think of the perfect album to play more than all the others. Later on when he's (I've been calling it 'he' rather than 'it') able to appreciate music, I'll play it and see if he's you know, unusually drawn to it.
So there's my little update. There will likely be more, up until he's born. Then he gets his own thread
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052501 - 02/21/08 04:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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you have turned into a fag.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8052550 - 02/21/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah dude, I'm gonna be a gay dad. I guess you didn't hear. Pretty soon I'll have pictures of my kid all over the pub. You might as well go ahead and ignore me, because it's totally coming. 
Safe sex, man. Or you'll have a big faggoty "Shit I'm Having A Kid" thread too.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8052552 - 02/21/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Augusten? You should suggest if it's a boy that you call him Augustus.
Also, it's never too early to sign him up with a shroomery account.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052616 - 02/21/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Convince her to abort the lill wanker, your life will be much happier in the long/short run. Shouldn't be to hard if shes not even looking forward to it. She must be a little screwed up in the head.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: DeathCompany]
#8052654 - 02/21/08 04:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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 Maybe this wasn't such a good idea.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052665 - 02/21/08 04:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm just not buying into your optimism. you sound like you're trying hard to convince yourself that the kid is a good thing.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052690 - 02/21/08 04:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
deadendeavor said: Yeah dude, I'm gonna be a gay dad
congrats on coming out! and the kid, the best years of your life are starting enjoy them while you can
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052728 - 02/21/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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abortion
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8052770 - 02/21/08 05:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh alright. Cause for a second I thought you were calling me a fag. 
It's a kid. Pardon me for being a little beside myself. I can't think of anything more fretful. Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, I wonder if it's a good thing. Shit, you watched the news lately? It isn't as if I'm without worry, as I've stated in EVERY SINGLE POST IN THIS THREAD. When did I say I was ecstatic? 'Happy as I can be' can mean two different things ya know. Put the emphasis on can, and read my post again. It's hard to know how to feel until it's you. Trust me, I've been where you are. When my best friend found out his girlfriend was pregnant, I was practically advertising abortion. I know you think a kid would be the end of your life, and you might be right. But it could be the beginning. And since we're this far in, and we've decided on keeping it, what choice do I have but to try to be optimistic? What am I gonna beat myself up over it? That's like never smiling because you lost a tooth. There's no point in regret. There's only today and tomorrow. The past is past.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052783 - 02/21/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............
abortion
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: aDoS]
#8052847 - 02/21/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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is against abortion!!!
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: aDoS]
#8052886 - 02/21/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Abortion, yeah.. I got you. I'm actually kind of committed to my decision though. I'm one of those types of people who doesn't say "Oops, I fucked up" the instant there's a change in my life. A real oddball, I guess. Thanks for the thought though, all of you.
I guess I should have learned by now not to expect anything positive out of posting personal shit on the internet. I should have realized that while I've put 3 months of thought into this, you people have put 2 minutes max. My fault. Won't happen again.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Blend]
#8052970 - 02/21/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn, even i thought people would have something better to say than the bullshit that was spoutted out in this thread.
Deadedeavor, i am very happy for you. I have 3 kids, not one of them were planned. I got my girlfriend pregnant right out of highschool, i thought my life was screwed at first. It took me about 5 minutes to get excited about it, then i was happy as hell. My son is 6 years old now, i love the little guy. I don't know what i would do without him and I am more proud of him than anything. Kids rock. My girlfriend married me, now we are expecting our 2nd kid! She is due in 6 weeks. Kids do NOT mean the end of anything. It means the beggingin of everything. People that dont have kids have no fucking clue what thier mouths are spouting. Im happy for you, so keep us informed. I for one would like to know how things are going.
*oh yeah. IMO, Abortion in any form is murder. The moment of conception a human is made. Life is precious and should be treated as such.
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Re: Well, it finally happened. [Re: Kada]
#8052999 - 02/21/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Deadendeavor, I hope you and your girlfriend will be happy with your decision. I wish you all the best luck and happiness.
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