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learningtofly
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Hallucinogens according to freevibe
#7694014 - 11/29/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get the Facts
Hallucinogens affect your brain. Hallucinogens alter how the brain perceives time, reality, and the environment around you. They also affect the way you move, react to situations, think, hear, and see. This may make you think that you're hearing voices, seeing images, and feeling things that don't exist.
Hallucinogens affect your heart. The use of hallucinogens leads to an increase in heart rate and blood pressure. Hallucinogens can put you in a coma. They can also cause heart and lung failure. Hallucinogens affect your well-being. The use of hallucinogens may change the way you feel emotionally. They may cause you to feel confused, suspicious, and disoriented. Use of PCP may interfere with hormones related to normal growth as well as with the learning process.1
Hallucinogens affect your self-control. The impact of hallucinogens varies from time to time, so there is no way to know how much self-control you might maintain. They can cause you to mix up your speech, lose control of your muscles, make meaningless movements, and do aggressive or violent things.
Back to Top Before You Risk It
Know the law. Hallucinogens are illegal to buy, sell, or possess.
Get the facts. Hallucinogenic drugs distort your perception of reality. Hallucinogens cause your sense of space and time to become distorted and cause you to see objects that aren't really there.
Stay informed. It's easy to quickly develop a tolerance to hallucinogens so that it takes more and more of the drug each time to get the same effect. This is dangerous because taking more and more of the same drug may lead to an overdose with severe effects.
Know the risks. Hallucinogens can cause flashbacks. Effects of the drugs, including hallucinations, can occur weeks, months, even years after use.
Look around you. The majority of teens are not using hallucinogens. According to a 2006 study, only 1.5 percent of 8th, 10th and 12th graders had used hallucinogens in the past 30 days. 2 And 92 percent of teens had never tried hallucinogens by the end of 12th grade.3
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How can you tell if a friend is using hallucinogens? Sometimes it's tough to tell. But there are signs you can look for. If your friend has one or more of the following warning signs, he or she may be using hallucinogens:
* Depression * Weakness and lack of muscular coordination * Anxiety or paranoia * Trembling * Nausea * Dizziness * Facial flushing * Dilated pupils
What can you do to help someone who is using hallucinogens? Be a real friend. Encourage your friend to stop or seek professional help. For information and referrals, call the National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information at 800-729-6686.
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Q. Do hallucinogens have long-term effects? A. Yes. In addition to flashbacks, long-term effects may include decreased motivation, prolonged depression, anxiety, increased delusions and panic, and psychosis.
Q. Can I predict if I will have a "bad trip"? A. There is no way to predict a "bad trip." There is no consistency in hallucinogenic drugs, so each "trip" may differ depending on the drug's strength and purity. The psychological effects of the hallucinogen are also dependent on the user's frame of mind.
Q. How can I help someone through a bad trip? A. Don't try to handle this situation on your own; call 911 and a trusted adult immediately. While waiting, address the person by name, remind them who and where they are, talk to them calmly, make sure they're safe, and don't leave them alone.
The bottom line: If you know someone who uses hallucinogens, urge him or her to get help. If you're using them-stop! The longer you ignore the real facts, the more chances you take with your life.
It's never too late. Talk to your parents, a doctor, a counselor, a teacher, or another adult you trust.
Do it today!
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Besides the fact that under tolerance it forgets to mention that it GOES AWAY after a week or so.... probably the worst thing it says on there is if someones having a bad trip don't help them... wtf is that, srsly?
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: learningtofly]
#7694042 - 11/29/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ya, calling 911 for somebody on a bad trip is a baaaaaaad idea.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: circularvortex]
#7694071 - 11/29/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It has some truth but is obviously twisted one way.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: Stizzle]
#7694095 - 11/29/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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"Q. Do hallucinogens have long-term effects? A. Yes. In addition to flashbacks, long-term effects may include decreased motivation, prolonged depression, anxiety, increased delusions and panic, and psychosis."
Funny it doesn't mention the positive long term effects. Regular use of mushrooms (roughly once a month for the past five years) helped me pull myself out of alcoholism & drug addiction, gave me a sense of purpose in my life, I have become more creative and now enjoy life to the full.
People who knew me before have said that I'm a completely different person.
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Did anyone else know if you buy drugs, like acid or shrooms, you are directly funding terrorism? I sure didn't.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: learningtofly]
#7694154 - 11/29/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Get the Facts Stay informed. It's easy to quickly develop a tolerance to hallucinogens so that it takes more and more of the drug each time to get the same effect. This is dangerous because taking more and more of the same drug may lead to an overdose with severe effects.
Oh noezzz.
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Look around you. The majority of teens are not using hallucinogens. According to a 2006 study, only 1.5 percent of 8th, 10th and 12th graders had used hallucinogens in the past 30 days. 2 And 92 percent of teens had never tried hallucinogens by the end of 12th grade.3
Stathiztikz ftw.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: The_Ghost]
#7694194 - 11/29/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't care about all this shit anymore, wanna know why? Any kid who isn't smart or self motivated enough to just look online a little farther and see that what they're saying is absolute bullshit, OR just goes out and does some LSD or Mushrooms and finds out first hand that they're full of shit, doesn't deserve to do them in first place.
So fuck it, i hope they keep spreading their wrong message, cause you know what? People who know it's wrong, know it, and they find their way with or without drugs. And the dumb people who buy into it, well ok, they're dumb, end of story.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: Hrethic]
#7694239 - 11/29/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive heard about the respiratory failures. Ive wondered if that's real, but haven't looked up on it.
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just by placing pcp in the same cateogory as hallucinogens makes everything said discrediable.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: circularvortex]
#7694535 - 11/29/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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circularvortex said: Ya, calling 911 for somebody on a bad trip is a baaaaaaad idea.
yeah...no shit
if I were having a bad trip and a fucken ambulance showed up and tried to strap my ass down to a bed so that they could take me to detox or something - I would jump out of a fucken 10 story window just to get away from that shit
that's straight up horror movie crap right there to someone who's fucken frying like that
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: Hrethic]
#7694601 - 11/29/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hrethic said: I don't care about all this shit anymore, wanna know why? Any kid who isn't smart or self motivated enough to just look online a little farther and see that what they're saying is absolute bullshit, OR just goes out and does some LSD or Mushrooms and finds out first hand that they're full of shit, doesn't deserve to do them in first place.
So fuck it, i hope they keep spreading their wrong message, cause you know what? People who know it's wrong, know it, and they find their way with or without drugs. And the dumb people who buy into it, well ok, they're dumb, end of story.
i agree
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: THEBats]
#7694656 - 11/29/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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THEBats said: just by placing pcp in the same cateogory as hallucinogens makes everything said discrediable.
Scientifically, PCP is technically a hallucinogen..
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yeah but its not really a psychedelic.
hallucinogen IMO does not = psychedelic
some people mix these up.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: pong]
#7694872 - 11/29/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even if that were true, why would it make a difference. They're talking about hallucinogens as a broad group. Psychedelics may just be a subset of hallucinogens..
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VisionsToReality said: Ive heard about the respiratory failures. Ive wondered if that's real, but haven't looked up on it.
I don't know that there have been any human studies...
However, in some of the literature it does give the LD50 for various hallucinogens for animal studies. LSD for one caused death via respiratory arrest ("anoxia resulting from throat spasm"), check out this link.
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theorganicdomino said: Funny it doesn't mention the positive long term effects. Regular use of mushrooms (roughly once a month for the past five years) helped me pull myself out of alcoholism & drug addiction, gave me a sense of purpose in my life, I have become more creative and now enjoy life to the full.
People who knew me before have said that I'm a completely different person.
QFT.
Psychedelics, shrooms especially, have been of great benefit to me. I did a lot of high dose (10+ hits) solitary self-exploration trips in my late teens with both shrooms and LSD. I still like to do this, just not nearly as often and usually with low doses (.5-1.5g w/cranberry).
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: learningtofly]
#7694946 - 11/29/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate freevibe. A bunch of bias-disinformative assholes run that site. Call the cops on some one is who having a bad trip? brilliant! how about supporting some one else's agenda for once?
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: Drewwyann]
#7695000 - 11/29/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your friend is having a bad trip, you should take him to your sacred church and the priest may exorcise him. if not, then your friend may be possesed by Satan for eternity.
-hail satan-
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THEBats said: just by placing pcp in the same cateogory as hallucinogens makes everything said discrediable.
Scientifically, PCP is technically a hallucinogen..
Apples to oranges. yes pcp is a hallucinogen but I prefer to describe drugs as the subcategories of psychedelics, deliriants and dissociatives. I feel the category of hallucinogens is flawed and should be scraped which is why this is discredited. It automatically groups drugs into simple categories and clumps the effects all together.
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Re: Hallucinogens according to freevibe [Re: THEBats]
#7695257 - 11/29/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, they do specific things to specific systems in your body, and that's how the classification arises... I think that's good enough a way to do it..
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