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thatamatt
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I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do?
#7693626 - 11/29/07 03:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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(sorry no pics)Birth my one 1 pint cake 13 days ago. Very thick mycelium over 100% of the cake including the 1/2 inch of verm filter at birth. I'm using 2 Liter soda bottle with top cut off and a plastic bag and rubber band for lid, for a terrarium. There is water soaked perlite on bottom for moisture(unknown amount of humidity). I air it out and tip about 4 times a day. It gets shaded natural light all day. Temps, about 70F during day and around 60F at night. Some of The mycelium is about 1/2 inch thick in some areas. I'm working with limited space and have never done a casing. Oh yea, there's not a single pin.
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: thatamatt]
#7693630 - 11/29/07 03:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can't comment on yours, but when my 100% colonized spawn bag wasn't pinning I just cold dunked for an hour, took it out, put verm all over it, and left it free to fresh air from just above the top. Lighting is room lighting, although it's pretty close to the light since it's on top of a cupboard. Try another dunk and roll, no standing water, and just leave the top off for FAE. If you have a verm layer on top and perlite beneath [poke holes in the bottom for the perlite's standing water to drain], you should get enough humidity/moisture for them to grow.
The best thing you can do now is just fix it then leave it. Take advice from more experienced members of the forums, arrange for the most encouraging fruiting conditions, then touch it and worry about it as little as possible. It's like shrooms have a telepathic connection with your emotions, so they can get their own back by slowing down growth whenever you obsess. In the meantime, knock up another jar.
Edited by ozzyozzyozzy (11/29/07 04:02 AM)
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veda_sticks
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
#7693776 - 11/29/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im guessing you didnt dunk then roll?? High rh is needed at the surface to help give a good pinset, dunked then rolled in dry verm, which is then misted to dampen it provides this for the cakes.
Also FAE is very important pinning trigger.
If its not been dunked, do it now, dunk in cold water for 24 hours, roll in dry verm and back into your FC. Let it sit for an hour them mist the dry verm
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thatamatt
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7694956 - 11/29/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dunked for 12 hours but did not roll(long story) Okay, I'll dunk 24 hours and then roll, this time. Thanks
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impeachme2
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: thatamatt]
#7694974 - 11/29/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No need to dunk again. Just dip it in some water and roll it. It has plenty of moisture from a 12 hour dunk and not gone through any flushes yet.
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thatamatt
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: impeachme2]
#7695117 - 11/29/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Got it. Thanks impeachme
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thatamatt
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: thatamatt]
#7711521 - 12/03/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now my cake seems to have stalled, after dunk and roll four days ago.
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veda_sticks
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: thatamatt]
#7711540 - 12/03/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It wont colinise the verm, its just there to provide help provide moisture.
Also make sure you are giving enough FAE
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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thatamatt
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7730354 - 12/07/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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(Darn! No camera) Ah, verda_sticks, its been about a month a half since my cake has been born and 10 days since the dunk n roll thing.
There are now strange features appearing on the verm. Kinda hard to explain, white vertical scale/feather extensions all uniform in dimension's and size dangling from verm. About .25cm in length. I took a small peace off to examine and noticed it felt and look like fine feathers. When squeezed it produced moisture, smelling of mushrooms and disengaged.
I've got enough humidity, doing FAE about 4 times a day and temperature around 70F. ?
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thatamatt
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Re: I think my pf-tek cake has stroma, What do I do? [Re: thatamatt]
#7733171 - 12/08/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking from the bottom up, its kinda like white shroom gills. Bizarre!
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