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A Mini Vent about these Black Kids.....
#7693181 - 11/28/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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For some reason all of these young black kids in my area think that violence is the only answer. Since I've been back home (It's been about 4 months now) there have been 3 deaths from people I know (All shot) and my mom missed out on being caught in the middle of a shoot out by seconds (At a Wal Mart parking lot of all places!) I just don't know what happened.
First of all I'm from a town of maybe 3000 people and we only had one grocery store. This 16 and 18 yr old boys go and shoot the owner and a worker point blank in the head. A few weeks ago this guy I know went to a club looking to shoot another guy and ends up shooting his friend through the eye.
They're always talking about 'fighting the white man' but the 'white man' doesn't have to do anything since we're killing each other off anyway. They're not scared of anything. They don't mind jail, they don't mind getting killed....it's just about money. Making that paper by any means necessary.
Growing up people always gave me a hard time because I wasn't 'black enough' because I listened to more than rap, knew how to speak correct English, and I wore a belt with my pants. It's just sad when I'm seeing more and more that we're becoming the stereotypes. It's just sad that for 2 years I hung around mostly white people and there was never any violence. All my black friends think all white people are crazy and do alot of cocaine apparently but I've never had a bad time hanging out with them. I come back to Mississippi and a fight breaks out, there's pepper spray, and someone pulls out a gun.
I just think as a whole we have to do better because this is getting out of hand. There's more to life than 'ice'...there's more to life than material things but everybody wants to be a rapper (If I hear one more lame freestyle battle I'm gonna snap lol)
Sorry I just had to vent because it has been crazy around here and I'm glad I'm about to leave in a few days. It's just sad...so so sad.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Mocha Bear] 1
#7693230 - 11/28/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I was growing up and adults were screaming that the kids were going to get messed up because we listened to Rap, movies, TV, whatever, I thought it was a joke.
However, looking at the fact that I worked with at risk youth for a few years and almost all of them were some kind of bad rip off of 50 Cent (even the girls) I have to admit that I must be getting old and there was some truth to their argument.
Of course, the idiot in the neighborhood back then would be one of the Einsteins now, and considering the overall ignorance of the youth these days (it's NOT just black kids, these white kids are loco too) it's not surprising that we have so many issues.
I loved NWA, and we didn't like th police, but I can't remember any of us trying to BE Ice Cube or Eazy E 
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Mocha Bear] 1
#7693233 - 11/28/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not just black kids, It was alot like that when I was growing up and it all began at a early age, 12, I was a big kid and could take down grown adults so I got alot of attention from the wrong crowds and to tell you right now, ethnics has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a asshole, A human being determines his rights from his wrongs, they could be pink, purple, white or black but if their a fuck up, their a fuck up.
Long story short I ended up getting stabbed not by a black guy, not by a Chinese or Pakistanis guy but by a white guy who set me up, someone I called my friend. Recently I had a friend killed because of a drug debt he accumulated with the wrong people, who those people represent is what is wrong in the world today, greedy people who care for nothing but their own personal gain and reputation.
We as individual's choose the life's we lead and there are alot that focus soley on themselves rather then the ones around them which leads to hurt feelings, that leads to anger, to hate for another.
I'm not a psychologist but that's just my perception of things.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: whattheheck]
#7693248 - 11/28/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah that's a good point. It just seems these kids want so bad to be something they're not and if you're walking, talking, and acting like the rappers then you're lame. They do alot of these things to impress other people. I understand the people that were raised in the hood but imo if you're a real thug you don't have to flaunt it around. Real thugs don't go looking for trouble whereas these kids look for trouble to prove that they're tough.
I swear almost every young guy in my town wants to be rapper and when they freestyle they only say 'Yeah Yeah Yeah' alot from what I can tell. Also one of those kids (A fried of my sister) left his notebook of rhymes over here and poor kid can't even spell half the words he wants to say
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Pr0_X]
#7693264 - 11/28/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pr0_X said: It's not just black kids, It was alot like that when I was growing up and it all began at a early age, 12, I was a big kid and could take down grown adults so I got alot of attention from the wrong crowds and to tell you right now, ethnics has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a asshole, A human being determines his rights from his wrongs, they could be pink, purple, white or black but if their a fuck up, their a fuck up.
Long story short I ended up getting stabbed not by a black guy, not by a Chinese or Pakistanis guy but by a white guy who set me up, someone I called my friend. Recently I had a friend killed because of a drug debt he accumulated with the wrong people, who those people represent is what is wrong in the world today, greedy people who care for nothing but their own personal gain and reputation.
We as individual's choose the life's we lead and there are alot that focus soley on themselves rather then the ones around them which leads to hurt feelings, that leads to anger, to hate for another.
I'm not a psychologist but that's just my perception of things.
Oh yeah I know it's not just black kids lol, I was just venting about what I see around me and I totally agree with you. I've noticed that in my town that a majority of the people here are greedy and out for their own personal gain and reputation. Your friends will turn their back on you in a second and not care.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Pr0_X]
#7693304 - 11/29/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Recently I had a friend killed because of a drug debt he accumulated with the wrong people, who those people represent is what is wrong in the world today, greedy people who care for nothing but their own personal gain and reputation.
I'm not saying your friend deserved to get killed, it is terrible that he did, but what would you have a dealer do when somebody runs up a debt that doesn't get paid? Dealer's fault for the front in the first place I guess but couldn't your now dead friend also be considered somebody who "cared for noting but their own personal gain" by smoking/snorting/shooting shit he had no business smoking?
I don't know either I'm just throwing it out there
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Mocha Bear]
#7693651 - 11/29/07 04:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hear ya, I think it seems more personal because it is members of your 'race' that are committing these offenses. As a hispanic woman, it galls me to see the hordes of unwed, not financially secure young young women with 2, 3 and 4 children. But i know its not just hispanics, I know the problem is more class than race. In each of the situations you've read about in this post the common demoninator is poverty.
Rich kids emulate rap culture in dress and speech, but they rarely shoot people up. Why? It is my OPINION that it has to do with how they grew up.
Most poor kids grow up in the street. they don't learn empathy or consideration. They don't have a parental figure helping them out as a child, patiently answering their silly endless childhood inquiries. How can they, ost of the moms are working 2 jobs, or worse, not working. Everyday I see a myriad of ways NOT to raise a child. My mom was poor, and disabled, but she still had help from her dad and raised us the best she could. That is not the rality in a lot of the cases I see on a daily basis working in a place with youth and adults at risk. In almost every case, their childhood was shattered first by poverty, then by a tradegy.
It is my belief, if we can get the poverty in America wiped out, we will heal as a nation; But i don't think this will ever happen, because the rich always need an endless supply of nannies and home care workers and floor cleaners, and who's going to elect to do a shit job, no one. But when you are fresh out of the pen, and/or a recovering addict, no education, and a twisted view of what's important (image vs means) you take what you can get. And the cycle continues. Now, good day Sirs, I am off to work.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
#7693741 - 11/29/07 06:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oracle Of Delphi said:
In each of the situations you've read about in this post the common demoninator is poverty.
and another variable associated with these situations is TERRIBLE PARENTING.
no offense to the OP, but its people like those dumbasses in your town that i have NO PROBLEM with them killing each other off.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: memes]
#7693744 - 11/29/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah meams, let em kill eachother off, that will surely fix the problem!.....
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: VisionsToReality]
#7693755 - 11/29/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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VisionsToReality said: yeah meams, let em kill eachother off, that will surely fix the problem!.....
it won't fix the problem, but neither will current governmental policies in effect, and you know the population in poverty will SURE AS HELL not fix their on problems.
so at least in my instance (killing each other off) there are less people on the street who are in a position/likely to kill other individuals.
it is by that analysis that I made my previous statement.
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
#7693845 - 11/29/07 07:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see what you're saying and the teenage pregnancy this is something I've seen so much it's crazy. Almost every girl under 15 in my town has a baby. I know a few girls in my graduating class that had about 3 come graduating high school and for some reason they keep running back to the dead beat 'thug' guys who leave them in an instant. I mean is it honestly so hard to protect themselves.
And I agree it is determined by the environment most were raised. Parents let the television raise their kids now because they'd much rather be out clubbing than raising this kid they never wanted in the first place. What kills me though that no matter their financial situation they will have a decked out car and the freshest gear. Most people put more money on their rims than their own houses and I just never understood that
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Re: A Mini Vent about these Black Kids..... [Re: Mocha Bear]
#7694279 - 11/29/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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tclsc03 said: And I agree it is determined by the environment most were raised. Parents let the television raise their kids now because they'd much rather be out clubbing than raising this kid they never wanted in the first place. What kills me though that no matter their financial situation they will have a decked out car and the freshest gear. Most people put more money on their rims than their own houses and I just never understood that
there's so much wrong with these situations I don't even know where to begin. Essentially the problem is that these "parents" aren't grown up, at all.
The fact that they're out clubbing at all just shows the complete lack of maturity that is (unfortunately) a requirement for raising a human life. I live in a big city with big ghettos so i've observed these behavior patterns first hand.
And you're right about having the "freshest gear". Essentially (and this isn't just for poverty-stricken families) people always try to show their value with material goods. The rims and clothing can be taken with them, out into the world where people will assess their status as an individual based on the variables they can view (clothes/car). This (as i just stated) isn't subject only to ghetto people, middle-inc0me-families and rich people do it too, flaunt their wealth with material posessions, the only difference here is they have the expendable income to do so without taking away from earmarked funding for housing/food/necessities.
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