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Offlineverminute
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NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link)
    #7690026 - 11/28/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/03/29/maps-drugs-research-ru-sirius/

Header: Are psychedelic drugs medicinal? Can you picture yourself walking into the neighborhood pharmacy with prescriptions for ecstasy (MDMA) and psilocybin?


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: verminute]
    #7690156 - 11/28/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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verminute said:
Header: Are psychedelic drugs medicinal? Can you picture yourself walking into the neighborhood pharmacy with prescriptions for ecstasy (MDMA)



That's a dream of mine, actually.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Robo]
    #7690308 - 11/28/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

People make me sad. Of course psychedelic drugs are medicinal, that has been known for THOUSANDS of years. People are always so shocked to learn that LSD and psilocybin are non toxic and have lethal doses that are nigh impossible to reach.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Ness1]
    #7690807 - 11/28/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like 10 Zen Monkeys. RU Sirius was an editor for the tech/psychedelic magazine Mondo 2000.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Quake3]
    #7690833 - 11/28/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i'm glad they are illigal. they are not so hard to come by.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Artnotwar]
    #7690955 - 11/28/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Great comments you guys.

I can't stand the up tight laws on controlled substances, I understand the laws towards chemical and artificial substances like meth, crack, etc. But drugs like Valium, something I really need I cannot get. As stated above, it's been proven MDMA can and IS medicinal. Therefore candidates that meet the criteria should have access toward whatever advances and treatment we have available.

I've never heard of MAPS. Sounds like they are making some strides.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: verminute]
    #7690962 - 11/28/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Wait, what? Meth is artificial even though it can be found in nature, but Valium and MDMA aren't artificial?


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Ness1]
    #7690994 - 11/28/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

those are all synthetic. some of the stuff inside those drugs may be found in nature, but otherwise no.


as for prescription ecstasy and psilocybin i just dont see it happening. possibly for use with therapists under their supervision. i think that would be a good thing. but even that would be far fetched with the people running our governments.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Locus]
    #7691027 - 11/28/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Anything that cannot be found in nature anywhere and wouldn't exist without the hand of man is synthetic. It might have natural precursors, though.

I don't see full blown hallucinogenics/psychedelics getting appoved for medical use any time soon. If they were going to do that with any substance it would probably be MDMA, Psilocybin not so much.


Edited by Adagio (11/28/07 03:19 PM)


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Ness1]
    #7691031 - 11/28/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Wait, what? Meth is artificial even though it can be found in nature, but Valium and MDMA aren't artificial?



If meth isn't synthetic then I don't know what is.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7691113 - 11/28/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The Meth-containing plant is hard to find. It hides behind other plants, sending out shoots to see if anyone is watching. Has been spotted picking at itself, and can be ID'd by the open sores on it's stalk. Found among other plants that have been taken apart, but can't put back together.
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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #7691142 - 11/28/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You might be talking about Ma Huang. If so, it's not 'meth-containing' (lol wouldn't that be convenient), but ephedrine can be extracted from it.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Robo]
    #7691217 - 11/28/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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"For example, we found that water pipes are worse for your lungs than smoking a joint."




OH RRY?

Seemed like it was the other way around to me.

I don't really care, I roll blunts.

But, still... just seems strange.

I wonder why?


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Artnotwar]
    #7691266 - 11/28/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think if it was made legal for medical purposes only, it would be just as hard, if not harder to come by for those of us which don't need them medically.

Great article, by the way.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7691311 - 11/28/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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"For example, we found that water pipes are worse for your lungs than smoking a joint."




OH RRY?

Seemed like it was the other way around to me.

I don't really care, I roll blunts.

But, still... just seems strange.

I wonder why?




That's a complete myth from a bogus study like 10 years ago that they use in rehab.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: Ness1]
    #7691744 - 11/28/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Ness1 said:
Wait, what? Meth is artificial even though it can be found in nature, but Valium and MDMA aren't artificial?




Excuse me, you're right. I meant meth, crack, etc. are not created using a specific guidline, they have a mix match of crap in them... Sorry.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: verminute]
    #7692491 - 11/28/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There's a species of Acacia that contains methamphetamine so it's NOT synthetic. Or more accurately, it was synthesized and thought to be discovered by a human but was later found in nature.


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Re: NEWS: Prescription Ecstasy and Psilocybin (with link) [Re: verminute]
    #7692577 - 11/28/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Nice read. I :heart: MAPS.

What surprised me most about this article is in the section about KETAMINE, they never mentioned that there is actually a clinic in the Tampa Florida area which is currently doing psychedelic psychotherapy along with the use of Ketamine.. I don't have their website address handy at the moment, but it is out there. The treatments are like $8,000-9,000 for a long session, which is through the roof. But it is going on somewhere in the tampa area which is only an hours drive from MAPS headquarters in sarasota.


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