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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
    #7887630 - 01/16/08 09:20 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Well it definitely helps to vote for him. The way I look at it is, vote Ron Paul or don't vote at all.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7887631 - 01/16/08 09:20 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

you wouldn't hit a man with glasses on, now woul you? :boot:


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7887632 - 01/16/08 09:20 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Ya, he looked like he had a chance in the beginning but now it looks like it will be Huckabee, McCain, or Romney as the next President. Did you see the numbers from the NH primary. There was about 15,000 democrat votes spread amongst their candidates and 125,000 republican voters or independents that voted republican. I think you will find that since Obamma and Hillary are so against each other that many of their supporters will not vote for the other should they get the nomination where as conservatives will vote for whoever gets the nomination. So it looks like the democrats have already lost, now it is just betweeen the republican primary to decide who the next president will be. Ron Paul is a liberal who calls himself a republican and Americans aren't stupid. Plus the ad he ran that said as an ER Dr he treated everyone regardless of income, um every er dr has no idea whether the person will pay or not but they are obligated so it was not like he did anything great, that was the best he could come up with for contributions to society...shows how pathetic/stupid he really is... The moment he said we will just take all the troops and send em home he proved he isn't capable of running the world's strongest military. GWB is doing a better job than Ron Paul could and that isn't saying much since GWB is special in the lil bus with a helmet kinda way!


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7887647 - 01/16/08 09:27 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

>Ron Paul is a liberal who calls himself a republican and Americans aren't stupid.

That statement shows a great amount of political ignorance. I have not heard the numbers you have posted but its hard to believe that Republicans outvoted Democrats in the NH primary by over 8:1


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7887650 - 01/16/08 09:28 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Aol posted the exact numbers and I copied them to another forum, I will go get em


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7887656 - 01/16/08 09:32 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

I was wrong it was Iowa but here is the numbers

Obama- 940 votes
Edwards- 744
Clinton-737
Richardson- 53
Bidden- 23
Dodd-1

Huckabee 40,841votes
Romney 29,949
Thompson 15,904
McCain 15,559
Paul 11,817
Rudy 4097
Hunter 524

So it was dems 3k Reps 100+k


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7887663 - 01/16/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

That's fucking scary.


I feel a little better that it was Iowa and not New Hampshire, but still that's fucking scary. This is a critical election. I am expecting the next president to be a democrat if it isn't Paul...which will totally suck.

The very fact that the Democrats are trying to push healthcare reform as a platoform shows how absolutely ignorant they are to the condition of our economy.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7887682 - 01/16/08 09:47 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

The turnout was about the same number for both parties in most of the counties in NH, The democrats had about 1,000 more votes in 2 counties than the GOP but then were 14,000 people short of the GOP in Livingston area. So you are right. Only 12,000 more republicans voted than Democrats in the NH primary. Only about 21% showed up to vote. The numbers will probably be a lot higher once we see who the opposition has nominated, then the activist groups will be out lighting a fire under people to get em to vote. Paul got like 8% of the vote, not a winner.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7887716 - 01/16/08 10:01 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

I agree with the healthcare stuff but I think socialist healthcare brings down the quality of medical service. Like when I had mass health and they wouldn't put me out to take my wisdom teeth out but had I had insurance other than what was provided by the govt I would have gotten real care as I am supposed to. Socialism is rediculous. I understand the economy and I also see that no democrat will fix it. It is ironic how the dems bitch about the rich republicans but blue states spend twice of their red counterparts. It is all lies with the liberals. The solution for healthcare should be privatised like Romney said. The govt foots the bill but you pick the plan, like harvard pilgrim, Blue Cross, etc. Give the country Mass Health and all you have done is assure that no one is getting adequit care, def not the answer. Notice the libbies didn't keep a single promise that they made to take the house and senate? They say bush keeps stopping them yet they have the power to override him if it is for something legit, just shows they can't. It was ironic that Bush's aproval rating was like 30% and withing a few months of the election the dems approval rating was at 12-15%. Plus you are forgetting that the census said 76.1% of the country claims they are Christian. It will be just like Bush/Kerry, whoever the Jerry Falwell and Rod Parsley crowd endorse will be the winner and no one that supports abortion or gay marriage will get it. It is silly to think they even have a shot IMO. So I would suggest the lesser of 3 evils, pick one otherwise it is a wasted vote, like the millions already spent by those who supposedly care about the poor. Both Hilary and Obamma know they have no chance but they are paving the way for several elections down the line. It is ironic that the money they spent every homeless person in the US could have been given a place to stay and aid. So when I hear them talk about how much they care, they don't care about anything but their cause, otherwise they would compromise and listen to the people. 300,000 voters in MA signed a petition saying they want to vote on gay marriage, a law that was passed illegally. See it isn't about doing things the right way or upholding the constitution since it was blatantly violated when the judical branch decided they should have the power of the legislature as well. It isn't about the voice of the people, it is about the voice of the party. That is why America as a whole hates the left. I always thought the Dems wer 1/3 of the population but from a conversation I overheard it seems they are more like 1/8 of the country with a lot of independents that swing conservatively. I want a leader who will listen to the people, family oriented, progress oriented, moral oriented, and most of all, reality oriented. I figured Rudy would be a good liberal compromise cuz he is pro choice....but I guess America doesn't agree


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #7887721 - 01/16/08 10:05 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Ron Paul is doing better than both Guilliani and Mccain so how is it that people are saying he has no chance? Are they watching Fox News?


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7887744 - 01/16/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

The sad part about this thread is that the first 75 percent of the posts are from November.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7888267 - 01/16/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

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Ron Paul is doing better than both Guilliani and Mccain so how is it that people are saying he has no chance? Are they watching Fox News?




Ron Paul is NOT doing better than Mccain, whom along with Romney is the front runner for the Republican nomination.

He has consistently beat out Guliani and Dead Fred Thompson, both of whom were at one time serious candidates.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7891828 - 01/17/08 05:25 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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Ron Paul is doing better than both Guilliani and Mccain so how is it that people are saying he has no chance? Are they watching Fox News?




He may be doing better than Rudy , as for MCCain he could go either way but it looks like it will be Romney, Huckabee, or MCCain. I don't know where the info is coming from, none of the news stations around here are praising Paul. They aren't even talking about him so they must have written him off. He has 0 chance of getting the GOP nomination. The fact that he isn't capable of commanding a game of Risk, never mind control the worlds most powerful army. People see him for what he is. He may have some good solutions to things but as far as the total package goes I would rather see obama win and I hate democrats with a passion, since they stand for everything that is bad about America. If this was a democracy there would be no issues and no liberal control of anything.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: rizingfire]
    #7892481 - 01/17/08 11:01 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

I don't know anyone who thinks Huckabee has a chance in hell of the nomination.

Him and Paul are both whackjobs.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7892513 - 01/17/08 11:08 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Ron Paul supporters got to face the facts: Ron Paul simply has a too large nose to be the next president.


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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: SheerTerror]
    #7892519 - 01/17/08 11:09 AM (16 years, 15 days ago)

Unfortunately, candidates like Paul have no chance of being elected unless there is a major crisis.

Fortunately(?) the perfect storm is headed this way.

But not in time to "save" Paul.

And only in modern America could returning to the Constitution be considered nutty. That shows you how far we have fallen away from our founding principles that sanity is seen as insanity.


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