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wille

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As small as the chance of him winning is, i really really hope he does.
If not no way in hell i'm going to America to study for university
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Gastronomicus
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The difference between Nader and Paul though is that Paul can potentially lock down the republican nomination and get a whole lot of votes, something Nader could never do
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7695195 - 11/29/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've actually been struggling for a while as to whether I want to vote for Kucinich or Paul. I think I probably agree with Kucinich on more issues, but there's something about Ron Paul that's such a breath of fresh air. They're both speaking truth to power, but for me, Ron Paul more fully embodies the antithesis of the direction this country has been headed these past 8 years. In any case, I've already donated $50 to the Ron Paul campaign, so at least has my monetary support.
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Silversoul]
#7695210 - 11/29/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's too bad that ron paul is anti abortion..
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VisionsToReality said: It's too bad that ron paul is anti abortion..
I agree. Me and Ron Paul disagree on alot of things, but really none of them are deal-breakers except for abortion. I know he says he's only advocating letting individual states decide for themselves, and not actual federal criminalization of abortion, but they're tantamount to the same thing. If you reverse Roe v. Wade, as Ron Paul has said should be done, there will undoubtedly be states in the South and West that would ban abortions immediately. To me, this is unacceptable.
The right of the states to pass whatever laws they want is not inviolate. If Mississippi were to pass a law tomorrow banning black people from walking the streets, the Federal Government would come down on them like a thunderstorm. Certain rights of people are and should be protected by the government from populist calls for their relinquishing.
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said: The right of the states to pass whatever laws they want is not inviolate. If Mississippi were to pass a law tomorrow banning black people from walking the streets, the Federal Government would come down on them like a thunderstorm. Certain rights of people are and should be protected by the government from populist calls for their relinquishing.
I am pretty sure there have been amendments to the constitution (14th) that would protect people in that situation. Therefore, it would be the Federal government's job to free the blacks of Mississippi.
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7695421 - 11/29/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm certainly not voting for him. He's way too conservative for my tastes.
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vitadura
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7695439 - 11/29/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anything's possible...
(Especially in America)
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Shroomnibbler
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Nader and Paul are complete opposites. Nader is a socialist, Paul is classical liberal - a Libertarian. It doesn´t get much more opposite than that.
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JonnyOnTheSpot
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7706218 - 12/02/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you completely missed the point of the comparison.
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Shroomnibbler
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I guess it´s over
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fireworks_god
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7887451 - 01/16/08 07:22 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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He still has some chance in the Republican primary, but it is an up-hill war.
For consideration:
McCain is almost completely broke (some more ads in South Carolina and that's it from what I heard - Ron Paul is running an eight-state media blitz in Super Tuesday states). Huckabee is pretty much out of money. Giuliani is asking aides to work for free. Ron Paul has millions, and he did not spend much in the first primary states (strategy ). Out of the three states that have had votes cast so far (Wyoming doesn't count), a different candidate has won each time. Nevada and South Carolina is next, and from what I understand, the official campaign has been focusing squarely on Nevada, which seems to be very favorable to Ron Paul compared to other states (similar hype about NH was false - they aren't libertarians, they are Massachusetts-style liberals).
The country is heading into a recession, and there is only one Republican that actually has an understanding of the economy and monetary policy - Ron Paul. This is a card that hopefully he will play very well.
Ron Paul is in a secure 4th place. He finished 2 to 1 over Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani in Michigan, a state in which he didn't campaign. 55,000 votes simply due to the grass-roots and general knowledge about the man.
Anyone calling the Republican race already is a damned fool. Ron Paul cleary doesn't have great odds at this point, but the race is still wide-open and the war hasn't even begun.
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have u noticed on fox new channel all they plaster is the faces of hillary and obama, its because they have ties with the illuminati.. if ron paul did somehow win and takes down the IRS and Fed i think he would be assasinated by then.. the presidents are no more than puppeters of the bilderberg group. its more like a choice of, who would u like to see as a new reporter telling u horrible news, like how were going to war in iran
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: wocka]
#7887491 - 01/16/08 07:46 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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well, he did win the republican vote on the myspace primary
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: StonedShroom]
#7887501 - 01/16/08 07:54 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Ron Paul won't win. Diebold have made sure his votes go to Hilliary and Ghouliani.
Why?
He's not a fucking cocaine dealing, child molesting criminal, that's why.
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Visionary Tools said: Ron Paul won't win. Diebold have made sure his votes go to Hilliary and Ghouliani.
Why?
He's not a fucking cocaine dealing, child molesting criminal, that's why.
This doesn't make any sense. Where are all of Giuliani's votes, if this were the case?
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Shroomnibbler]
#7887521 - 01/16/08 08:05 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I don't see Ron Paul winning at all.
Ron Paul is smart, unorthodox and willing to break the status quo and start something new. The average American voter, how can I say this politely, isn't ready for that kind of change.
The thought that a woman or black man could become the next president is already all the controversy the general public can handle
The average Dutch voters are asses too. Theres just a huge gap between shroomerites or even internet people and their social circles, and your average Joe Blow who will do most of the voting.
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Colbadol]
#7887609 - 01/16/08 09:09 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Colbadol said: makes me so mad that Guiliani is more popular than Ron Paul.
soo mad.
actually Rudy's done worse in the primaries so far than Ron
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Re: Does Ron Paul stand a chance? [Re: Asante]
#7887621 - 01/16/08 09:17 AM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I don't see Ron Paul winning at all. thank god
The average Dutch voters are asses too. Theres just a huge gap between shroomerites or even internet people and their social circles, and your average Joe Blow who will do most of the voting.
lol - too bad you are right
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No offense but that kind of vocal pessimism is extremely detrimental to our country I want to punch you in the nose
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