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aray485
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Newbs and The Lemon Method
#7688477 - 11/27/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello. First I want to say what a great find this board is to me. I feel like I have learned alot while browsing it and have also been really entertained by alot of it. It seems like a great community and the perfect place for information. That being said, Ill introduce myself a bit. I am a big guy, I have always therefore thought that I needed more substance to achieve the same results as that of my average sized friends. The only reason I bring it up is because I am still pretty new to mushrooms. The only drug I have real experience with is DXM. As far as everything else is concerned, I am novice at best. I don't know the different variety of shrooms, nor do I know the best method with which to eat them.
I have done Mushrooms four times now. The first three times I wasn't impressed at all. I laughed a little and had some weird body sensations. The fourth time blew my mind. The first three times I ate an eighth which is apparently 5g of whole dried mushrooms. This is the standard all of my friends, when they can, they eat an eighth and trip hard. I never tripped very hard and decided to double my dosage, and ate an entire quarter (10g) of again, dried whole mushrooms, and that night completely changed the way I think about mushrooms. I was out of it. It gave me a new sense of self and appreciation for the power of mushrooms. My first question I suppose, is based solely on that dosage info do you guys think it was the dosage or potency? Can doubling dosage really take you from "eh." to "omgomgomgomgomg"? Second question is about the Lemon method, I have been reading about it here and still am unsure what the method actually is. It seems I have alot to learn as far as lingo around here goes. For example, I didn't know that there was such a thing as Psilocybe cubensis powder, and I don't know what cubes are, example, 'yousuck' "took 3.5g's (grain cubes)" using the lemon method. Im sidetracking. My friends and I got our hands on mushrooms once again, again I have a quarter. I was planning on trying the lemon method but wanted to ask about it first. My understanding is that I should powder a smaller portion of my quarter and soak it in pure lemon juice, then drink the whole thing. So how much of my quarter should I use, how long to soak and how fine should I powder? I also want to know more about dosage. I am taking the method seriously, After my last trip I respect how intense it can be.
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aray485
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688521 - 11/27/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am also curious what your thought are on young mushrooms vs mature shrooms. I am by no means experienced at identifying shrooms, but if I took a stab at it, I would say the shrooms I have for tomorrow are young Psilocybe azurescens. Thoughts?
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688556 - 11/27/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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an eighth is 3.5 grams, not 5 a quarter is 7 grams, not 10
-------------------- grassman said: I remember being in DARE when i was much younger and some of the stories they would tell you are not only ridiculous, but completely untrue. One story was that a woman was on LSD and thought her infant was a turkey so she baked it in the oven. Now I look back and think thats hilarious, but at the time I guess it scared me.
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688566 - 11/27/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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-3.5 grams is an eighth, not five grams. There is a pretty big difference between those two doses.
-Any dried mush can be powdered.
-the lemon method makes it come on faster and harder. Some claim it doesnt last as long with the lemon juice method. I am one of those people. If you powder your shrooms and take them with lemon juice, it just comes up a bit faster/ (faster absorbtion). Lemon juice is nothing like an maoi. For me, I prefer to just chew and eat, because the lemon juice method is just meant for faster absorbtion.
-A quarter is 7 grams. Not many people would take seven grams even if they were well informed, and that includes some people here at this site which is obviously dedicated to mushrooms.
-5 grams is a massive trip for most people. 10 grams is very fucking uncommon.
-yer shrooms are old and shitty, you got 7 grams not 10, and I wonder why you dont know that and 8th is 3.5 grams.
-this leads me to believe that you truely dont know a damn thing about these mushrooms, not that this is necessarily a bad thing.
-something is not right...........I started thinking that when you said an 8th was "apparently" five grams.
-read up, everything you have said is damn near backwards.
-Azurs. What the fuck makes you think that? Because they were less potent and you didnt react strongly to them?
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Edited by yageman (11/27/07 10:42 PM)
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688577 - 11/27/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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First: One ounce = 28.5grams. (round to 28 for easy numbers). 28/8 = 3.5g, not 5g. 28grams/4 = 7g, not 10g.
A 5g mushroom trip for your first time would be pretty intense, I would think. 10g when you're not that experienced is very brave, to say the least. It's fortunate that you had a positive experience. You definitely hit the ground running.
Doubling the dose CAN have that effect, depends on the size. Going from 1g to 2g isn't a huge difference. Going from 5g to 10g is a BIG difference.
As to the lemon experience. Some people swear by it. IME, it makes a quicker trip, perhaps somewhat more intense, but not "on the floor" like is described. It's always best to start out small, and if you're comfortable enough, to add more dosage. Keep in mind a quarter is 7g. Start by taking 2-3g in lemon, if you want more, take another 1-2g (lemon). After that, you should be goin good, just munch the rest!
Good luck!
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688591 - 11/27/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, 3.5g is actually an 8th, and 7g is a quarter. That said, I'm surprised you didn't feel much from 3.5g, but that's not really important.
You should dose in whatever way seems most comfortable to you. The lemon method does its work on the shrooms you put in the water with it. If you want an experience that is more powerful but not shorter than the last, it probably couldn't hurt to eat half of the quad and drink the rest in a mixture of water and lemon juice. The come-up will be stronger but the trip won't be shorter.
I usually prefer to take my entire dose in a single delivery, i.e. eating all of them, putting all of them in a tea, etc. Also, differences in the strain do make a very big difference in potency. I've had 3.5g of some cubes make me kinda high and funky, like you described for your first trips, and 3.5g of other cubes blow my mind into a trillion little pieces. I would be careful about casually taking quads, because sooner or later you'll likely come across some cubes that are far more potent than what you've had so far and you will be overwhelmed.
If you're not sure what species of shroom you're eating, try to identify them, because that is especially important. All of my experiences have been with Psilocybe cubensis, so that's the advice I'm giving. There's a good chance that's what you're eating too, as that is by far the most common species of mushrooms available.
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Edited by Tchan909 (11/27/07 10:50 PM)
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: yageman]
#7688598 - 11/27/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for pointing this out. Like I said, I am not experienced which is why I am here. Im looking to further my knowledge. As far as the weight, I am relying on information from friends of mine. They mostly use marijuana, a scale was used and mushrooms were weighed in a plastic bag. According to that scale I have 10g. I am not planning on using all of it. And like you said, I may have this all backwards, but there again, this is why I am here. I also want to say that tomorrows shrooms were purchased in a larger quantity and broken down for everyone. The person that gave me mine said heres your quarter weighed it for me and told me that an 8th was 5g and quarter was 10g, so thats what I am basing my info on. Good to know they were incorrect.
Edited by aray485 (11/27/07 10:48 PM)
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688647 - 11/27/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have seen people sell 2 year old, poorly stored mushrooms and they did work. But 10 grams would put you at around the 2.5-3 gram mark.
They were obvious cubes. They were small and pretty, but didnt do much.
They are not azurs just because they are small. They sound like old cubes. Those little cubes pack quite a punch too. More so than the larger 8th sized shrooms for example.
Hope you have a good time! Weigh that shit with a different hand scale? Some handscales are fucked due to heavy use.
I have no idea man............lol
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: yageman]
#7688666 - 11/27/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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your dealers a retard, and youre lucky.
-------------------- grassman said: I remember being in DARE when i was much younger and some of the stories they would tell you are not only ridiculous, but completely untrue. One story was that a woman was on LSD and thought her infant was a turkey so she baked it in the oven. Now I look back and think thats hilarious, but at the time I guess it scared me.
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: clover606]
#7688868 - 11/27/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe you can help me identify?


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aray485
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: yageman]
#7688892 - 11/28/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
yageman said: -Azurs. What the fuck makes you think that? Because they were less potent and you didnt react strongly to them?
When I mentioned Azurs I was referring to the shrooms for tomorrow night. I thought azurs solely based on appearance, though now I doubt that, what do you think?
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688897 - 11/28/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
aray485 said: Maybe you can help me identify?


look like some the normal cubensis i always score for $15-$25/eigth
take an eigth ( 3.5 grams ).
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: aray485]
#7688901 - 11/28/07 12:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks Cubensis to me. Even dry those caps are kinda small, probably picked 'em several hours before they should have. Otherwise, looks like mushrooms.
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#7692726 - 11/28/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah that could be
I know the sandwich bags I use are just about exactly 2.6 grams
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Re: Newbs and The Lemon Method [Re: yageman]
#7693003 - 11/28/07 10:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
yageman said:
-Azurs. What the fuck makes you think that? Because they were less potent and you didnt react strongly to them?
Uhm.. correct me if I'm wrong but aren't azur's and cyan's MORE potent then cubes and most other species of psilocybes? W.e. You might be able to determine if they were younge/mature IF they were whole.. If it looks like the vail is still attached to the shroom close to the cap or still attached, then it's most likly an adolecent shroom. Broken vails means that shroom is no longer a virgin and is mature for the pickins I wish I had some cyans... Got spores though 
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