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Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii
    #7687713 - 11/27/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I found these earlier in the year in a cow pasture and I assumed they were stuntzii's, but after going back and looking at them a little closer there are slight differences to these than the other stunzii's i've found. these ones tended to be intensely clustered on areas of old (like last year's) dung had thick patches of grass on them. There would be clusters of 50-60 shrooms!! all over the place. the other main difference was the majority of these shrooms had more of a brown or "honey" colored stem. the cap margin on some of them was uneven (kind of like cyanofibrillosa) and the small shrooms deffinately looked different from other stunzii's i've found. when i finally got to trip on these last week, i made tea from 60 grans fresh and had a very solid level 4 trip, and probably the most visual trip i've ever had in my life. here's the pics:

here' some small ones, note the intense bluing on the ones in the background



a lone specimen:



here's a nice cluster, you can see the uneven margins(they almost look like baeos here):



another nice cluster, here you can see the type of area they were fruiting from(very similar to liberty caps)not in fresh dung, but old dung:



a really mature one with some smaller ones under him:



some small ones(notice the intense bluing:



and finally another nice little cluster:



i've heard that fimetaria is more potent than stunzii, and untill i'd tripped on them that's what i thought they were, but i'm fairly certain after looking at them for a while they've got to be at least a different strain or something because they aren't the same ol' blue ringers i find all the time in peoples lawns. any helpful info is much appreciated!!


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: deeptubez]
    #7687758 - 11/27/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

whoa is true they do look like baos. is a very good changet that be subfirmentaria, because of the asociation with dung and persisted anulus or ring. don´t look like stunzii but i´m not a expert just read the book, congratulations, that a good fins a rare specie
all my best...


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: cactu]
    #7687848 - 11/27/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea subfimetaria was my other guess.....either way i know they're potent (i estimate just a little bit less per weight as cubensis).  gracias cactu y que tengas mucha suerte con encontrar mas de nuestros amiguitos onguitos :grin:


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: deeptubez]
    #7688173 - 11/27/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

gracias but wait for the experts.you have made a good find and if is subfirmentaria there is no much knoleghe about potency or cultures, or other stuff , you should save some specimen in future or spores,
all my best vibration amigo ..


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: cactu]
    #7688420 - 11/27/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think it is Psilocybe fimetaria. I think I can see a papilla in the second picture. P. subfimetaria is rare and looks a little more like liberty caps.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7689236 - 11/28/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yes, that is what i thought...these, from the description and pics that i have seen seem to be fimetaria, and not subfimetaria. most but not all had a papilla even though it's kinda hard to see in the photos.


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: deeptubez]
    #7690520 - 11/28/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with ya tubes... very cool find!!!


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Re: Psilocybe fimetaria??? or Stunzii [Re: fliped]
    #7690977 - 11/28/07 03:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

here's some more pics from earlier in the year just to give you an idea of the abundance these things were growing. now looking at these photos i can see the papilla and these deffinately don't quite look like stunzii:









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