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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7690732 - 11/28/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I do not tip, usually. :grin:




If you are not going to tip, at least have big enough balls to tell your waiter right off the bat. Just tell them "look I don't believe in tipping so you aren't getting one." It's only fair. If you don't want your food ran to you while it is piping hot, if you don't want your drinks refilled, if you don't want the waiter checking back with you to make sure everything is fine, than tell them you don't tip and they won't go out of their way to please you.

I waited tables for like 6 months and you bust your ass trying to make each customer feel special so they give you a tip. When they finish eating the food and drinks you brought to them and then took back to the kitchen because it wasn't hot enough and there isn't enough ice in my water and oh can we have that hamburger cut in off, please? You have like 6 tables all at once and everybody needs you to make everything perfect for them and you are getting paid 2.50 an hour. So when you were assuming that the person you were waiting on understood that you rely on tips to live and then you get to their table and they have left you nothing than you get so pissed it ruins your day.

If you aren't going to tip your server, tell them right from the start so they don't waste their time trying to earn a big tip from your cheap ass. Otherwise you are basically lying to their face.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7690741 - 11/28/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why would I purposely make my stay less enjoyable by telling them I will not tip? It is their job to WAIT on me, take my orders, bring me food, bring me drink. It is not my fault you suck up to people not because you like them, but rather just for money.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690742 - 11/28/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I only tip white people.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7690777 - 11/28/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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20% That's fucking ridiculous, usually the runners do everything anyway. I will never tip 20%.




Bullshit. You have never worked in a restaurant. Runners/Expediators work really hard. Everyone does (except for the owner). But they do not do most of the work. Waiters do just as much running as the runners do, just on the floor instead of behind the scenes. On top of that waiters bear the brunt of everyone's fury. Chef overcooks a steak? Customer yells at waiter. Customer sends overcooked steak back to kitchen? Chef yells at waiter. Waiter not getting to other tables because he is running the same steak back and forth? Floor manager and other tables yell at waiter. And I am talking YELL, not a little tap on the wrist.

Anytime anything goes wrong, the waiter has to stand there and take shit, while trying to keep a smile on his/her face for the sake of the obnoxious customer who has no idea that waiting tables is literally the worst job in the universe. It sucks. Trust me. Tip the poor mother fuckers. If your food is good and hot, and you are satisfied, then they've earned 15%


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690802 - 11/28/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have to admit, sometimes I forget to tip, depending on the situation. If it's a restaurant where they give me a check when I'm done eating, then I always remember to tip. But in cases like pizza delivery where I'm paying up-front, it sometimes doesn't occur to me that they expect a tip.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7690804 - 11/28/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Why would I purposely make my stay less enjoyable by telling them I will not tip? It is their job to WAIT on me, take my orders, bring me food, bring me drink. It is not my fault you suck up to people not because you like them, but rather just for money.




My you are a selfish one. Look dude. This is how restaurants work. The owners don't pay the waiters a living wage because they operate under the assumption that you are going to tip them. That is the way it works. If you are going to play outside the rules, at least be man enough to announce it to the waiter at the beginning of the meal.

But I guess it is easier for you to reap the delicious benefits of their hard work and then, when they aren't looking, leave money for the check with no tip and then scurry out the back door like a thief.

If you want food you didn't cook but don't want to tip a waiter, go to McDonald's, not a restaurant. When you are grown up enough to accept that tipping is how the system works and it is what kind, respectable people do to other adults, than you can come and join us at the big boy table.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7690836 - 11/28/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Why would I purposely make my stay less enjoyable by telling them I will not tip? It is their job to WAIT on me, take my orders, bring me food, bring me drink. It is not my fault you suck up to people not because you like them, but rather just for money.





If you want food you didn't cook but don't want to tip a waiter, go to McDonald's, not a restaurant. When you are grown up enough to accept that tipping is how the system works and it is what kind, respectable people do to other adults, than you can come and join us at the big boy table.




good idea. people who don't tip should be identified, tagged, and barred from eating at any good restaurants until they prove that they can behave like the rest of society that is responsible. until that is proven they can eat no where other than fast food.

speaking of tipping. if i buy a large tv and they have to deliver it to my house and bring it in, how much are you expected to tip?


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7690846 - 11/28/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Waiters usually suck anyway if I dont like them I won't tip them shit. People who don't tip at all are scumbags, but I don't think you should expect 20% that's a lot of money for not doing much. Sure it's a "stressful" job but you're still making tips, why don't you go work at mcdonalds if you don't want to worry about poor tippers.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7690851 - 11/28/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Tangerines said:
Why would I purposely make my stay less enjoyable by telling them I will not tip? It is their job to WAIT on me, take my orders, bring me food, bring me drink. It is not my fault you suck up to people not because you like them, but rather just for money.




My you are a selfish one. Look dude. This is how restaurants work. The owners don't pay the waiters a living wage because they operate under the assumption that you are going to tip them. That is the way it works. If you are going to play outside the rules, at least be man enough to announce it to the waiter at the beginning of the meal.

But I guess it is easier for you to reap the delicious benefits of their hard work and then, when they aren't looking, leave money for the check with no tip and then scurry out the back door like a thief.

If you want food you didn't cook but don't want to tip a waiter, go to McDonald's, not a restaurant. When you are grown up enough to accept that tipping is how the system works and it is what kind, respectable people do to other adults, than you can come and join us at the big boy table.




Selfish? Why the fuck do they ASSUME I am going to tip. They should just raise the waiters wage, raise price of food, and that way I wont have to tip. I mean you know the saying about assumptions I am sure. I am not an ass. I want hot food, good service at no extra cost. Good service should be a staple at resturants and with good service people will come back.

EDIT: I mean who made up the rule that they could lower you below minimum wage just on the assumption the customer would tip. Fuck that. Get a real job if you care that much. Factory work pays good.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Silversoul]
    #7690857 - 11/28/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I have to admit, sometimes I forget to tip, depending on the situation. If it's a restaurant where they give me a check when I'm done eating, then I always remember to tip. But in cases like pizza delivery where I'm paying up-front, it sometimes doesn't occur to me that they expect a tip.




That's why you tip when you sign the receipt..


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7690858 - 11/28/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There is an understood social contract that when you enter a restaurant you are taking on the responsibility of paying the waiter a tip of at least 15%. 10% if things went poorly. 20% if you are a nice person.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7690867 - 11/28/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Selfish? Why the fuck do they ASSUME I am going to tip.



Well, the IRS does:

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In some jurisdictions, tipped workers qualify for a lower statutory minimum wage from the employer, and therefore may supplement deficient pay with tips. For example, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) requires restaurant employers to ensure that the total tip income reported to them during any pay period is at least eight percent of their total receipts for that period. If the reported total is below eight percent, employers must allocate as income the difference between the actual tip income reported and eight percent of gross receipts. Therefore the IRS is implicitly assuming the average tip to be eight percent.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip#USA


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690870 - 11/28/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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There is an understood social contract that when you enter a restaurant you are taking on the responsibility of paying the waiter a tip of at least 15%. 10% if things went poorly. 20% if you are a nice person.




And why should I not reject this social standard like I do many other things? I had no part in the making of the social standard so fuck it. If they do an excellent job I will tip. If it is avg or below then no tip. I mean maybe some loose change if I can spare it but I would rather give it to the bums. At least I know they are spending it on booze.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690883 - 11/28/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

the social ineptitude rampant in this thread is appalling.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7690887 - 11/28/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Reject that social standard by staying out of restaurants.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690891 - 11/28/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Reject that social standard by staying out of restaurants.




Or by having the courage to stand by your own convictions and tell your waiter not to expect a tip


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7690893 - 11/28/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

he should not expect one in the first place. that is just ignorant of him/her.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7690895 - 11/28/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, stop working at denney's and get a job at a nice restaurant.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7690904 - 11/28/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

word man. Work at a resturant poor people cannot afford in the first place and i am sure you will get gracious tips. But seriously, who expects tips at dennys, ihop, wafflehouse, eatnpark???


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7690905 - 11/28/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

everyone who waits tables there you douche.


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