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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7688163 - 11/27/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why do white people think they deserve more than 10%?

I know alot wont like this... But I worked as a server/delivery driver for 7 years. My wife worked as a server for 6 years. Nearly all tip employees are over payed. You have to be a real jackass to pull in less than $15/hr and averages of $20-$30/hr are quite common. No skill or training required. People in labor/retail jobs work just as hard and make much less. Dont get me wrong, its a good thing. Good for single moms who cant work a 'regular' job, good for students who need a high paying part time job to work through school, and good for drug addict high school drop outs to afford an apartment (like me). But you wont see me crying for servers who dont get 20%.

EDIT- I just asked my wife and she, and I, agree with you. Blacks are shittie tippers, and also immigrants. Doesnt matter what country they are from, or what their socioeconomic status is, they tend to tip poorly.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7688257 - 11/27/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Why do white people think they deserve more than 10%?

I know alot wont like this... But I worked as a server/delivery driver for 7 years. My wife worked as a server for 6 years. Nearly all tip employees are over payed. You have to be a real jackass to pull in less than $15/hr and averages of $20-$30/hr are quite common. No skill or training required. People in labor/retail jobs work just as hard and make much less. Dont get me wrong, its a good thing. Good for single moms who cant work a 'regular' job, good for students who need a high paying part time job to work through school, and good for drug addict high school drop outs to afford an apartment (like me). But you wont see me crying for servers who dont get 20%.

EDIT- I just asked my wife and she, and I, agree with you. Blacks are shittie tippers, and also immigrants. Doesnt matter what country they are from, or what their socioeconomic status is, they tend to tip poorly.




Servers should be tipped more than drivers for the obvious reason that they serve you the driver just drops the shit off, plus they get paid alot more than servers do on the hour. I have never not tipped anyone, I always tip servers at restaurants good as long as they aren't a jerk, which I have never had that happen, but then again I don't really eat out much.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Muppet]
    #7688267 - 11/27/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Muppet said:
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AliceDee said:
with caucasians sometimes they dont tip at all...



yep...that would be me - I refuse to tip  :snub:

I think it's bullshit that companies are giving people less then minimum wage because of it, and that they're expecting their customers to pay their employees salaries for them like that

a tip is *supposed to be* a sort of 'attaboy' for a job well done...NOT an expected necessity  :nonono:




Ok Mr. Pink

For those of you who don't tip.. here's a "TIP" for you. If you're on a date with a chick who's BEEN a waitress at one point. You BETTER fuckin ante up at the end of a meal whenever you take her out to dinner or you ain't gettin no ass afterwards... and she'll tell all her friends what a scrubby ass fool you are. Your penis will be blackballed from the vast pool of hot ex-waitress chicks in your town.

And you know you don't want that! Current and former waitresses tend to be pretty hot. All that stress, running around, and rails of BLOW in the breakroom make for one pretty hot bod.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7688283 - 11/27/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7688313 - 11/27/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

As a pizza driver, I never claimed one tip (Im a bad citizen). Didnt matter if it was on card or cash, I got it all as cash at the end of the night. I dont think this is the case anymore though...

As a server, they claim all your tips for you. It doesnt matter if its cash or card, or even if you dont get tipped at all! They claim a percentage of your sales as tips no matter what.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7688324 - 11/27/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:

As a server, they claim all your tips for you. It doesnt matter if its cash or card, or even if you dont get tipped at all! They claim a percentage of your sales as tips no matter what.




Are you shittin me? THat's BULLSHIT!


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: lavod]
    #7688336 - 11/27/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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15% is weak sauce as well. In a good restaurant, if the service is good, 20% is expected.






Any server who thinks 15% is not enough can suck my dick. If the service is truly spectacular, more than that is warranted. He better knit me a goddamn scarf or something if he think he's worth more than the standard 15 points.

DieCommie is right... most servers are overpaid. I know people that drill rock in a mine in order to make 20 bucks an hour, and the government takes its full chunk.

And those of you who don't tip: you are socially retarded indeed.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7688421 - 11/27/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, to classify someone as overpaid in any profession is relative. Servers are overpaid in comparison to the chefs(especially!), the bussers, and the dishwashers. Yet they are severely underpaid in relation to the managers. Being a server is'nt cake. It's hard on the knees physically. Mentally, you need to be able to cope with the stress. You have to be a certain kind of person to do it for an extended period of time. You'll note that servers who have done it for years begin to take on the two-faced fake persona in their life outside of work as well. I agree that some servers can be considered overpaid, especially the well proportioned females who expect people to pay them for their looks instead of their service. But you have to respect the hard working ones who do everything they can to satisfy the customers regardless of how they are treated by them.
And the pay will never be THAT great, yet I've known servers who gave 100% 6 days a week just to barely get by. Yet most rich people are rich not by hard work, but because they either had friends in "high" places, or were good in telling people what they wanted to hear. College? Well, you just need a good memory and determination for that, not actual intelligence(bar some exceptions). I've just always felt that if someone is doing work for you, they should be respected and compensated for by the means possible(money). Yet, the hardest workers in the restaurant industry are the chefs, usually overworked and underpaid in relation.
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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7688432 - 11/27/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I started delivering pizzas when I was 18 for a little over three years in a mostly white town. The money was really good compared to any retail job. A respectable tip in pizza delivery is 2 - 3 dollars. For some reason people feel like waiters deserve to be tipped more even though delivery drivers are using their own car to bring your food to your house. I never understood that.

As far as black people, I never noticed a difference in tips. There were actually a couple of regular black families that would tip me 4-5 dollars all the time. The shitty tips usually came from either the poor part of town (trailer parks), or from really rich white people believe it or not. There were some people who lived in million dollar houses that would call up every friday night with 40 dollar orders and tip you a buck.

Maybe its a geography or a money thing. I have a hard time believing its purely due to race.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: lavod]
    #7688434 - 11/27/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I totally respect food servers. All through college my friends and roommates were servers. I thought about it, but knew I'd FLIP THE FUCK out on people within a week and get fired.

The closest I came was a weekend job in college in DC working in a mansion for wedding receptions for super rich Democrats.. running around and serving hourdiervs (sp?) and then server the actual meals.

Physically I could handle it.. balancing tons of weight on giant dishes. I thought it was actually fun... but all the food was pre planned. We rarely we ASKED for anything. We didn't really have any interaction with the people and could hide out in the hidden hallways and such and sneak beers and food.

If I actually had to start taking orders and shit for people.. I would have had a problem

I had a roommate once who was a server at TGIFriday's and then became a hostess. She got paid about the same as a hostess and I remmeber thinking that was bullshit. Everyone else was running around doing the hard work and she just had to stand there looking pretty and guiding ppl to their table.

Oh yea.. I was also bus boy on weekends in a crowded ass crab house ON the water in Maryland where all the rich ppl would pull up on their yachts and order all u can eat crabs. I was only 15. The money was pretty nice (after tip share was about 7 bucks an hour under the table no taxes). 7 bucks an hour back in 1995 for a 15 year old wasn't too bad. Because of the type of food and crowd, some waitresses would bring home 500 bucks a weekend EASY. Too bad the management were the biggest ASSHOLES I've ever met in my life. The owner of the place died a few years ago and when I heard about it... well it was the only time in my life I ever heard about someone dying and thought: "good riddeance dickhead"


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: lavod]
    #7688444 - 11/27/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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lavod said:Yet they are severely underpaid in relation to the managers.


I disagree with that. Nearly every manager makes less than the tip employee per hour. That has been the case for every restaurant and pizza place I have worked or had friends work. Only the general managers seem to consistently make more, but they have real responsibilities and are accountable.

A common scenario in restaurants/pizza places is a tip employee gets lured into a manager position and hates the low pay and 'demotes' himself back to a higher pay less responsibility position he originally had.

I agree with you that it is physically demanding though. I often refer to serving as 'construction indoors'. I used to work 12 hour graveyard shifts at IHOP. I would come in at 5pm and leave at 5am. It was brutal. I would wake up the next morning, situp to stand on my feet and reel in pain back onto the bed. I literally walked on the sides of my feet for a few hours every time I woke up. But the pay was great, I could afford an apt and college.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7688445 - 11/27/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

wow. i can't believe how many of you are greedy assholes. not tipping at all? are you fucking kidding me?

i work in the service industry (i backwait and bartend) and a fairly substantial portion of my income is in tips. i greatly appreciate when people leave me decent tips, and i myself ALWAYS leave fairly decent tips.

for servers, unless they really, really suck and are unapologetic about it, 20% is the minimum i tip. good servers'll get up to 25%, shitty servers 10-15%. i generally tip delivery drivers just under 20% as well. I also tip baristas and deli workers $0.50-$1, depending on how much i bought.

and i'm a fucking college student. a poor college student in debt, going to school almost entirely on federal grants and loans, because that's how poor i am. if i can afford to tip, then i'm sure you greedy fucks can too.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7688453 - 11/27/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If I'm too broke to tip I don't eat in a place where tipping is expected.

I tip more in relation to the service I receive than the amount of the bill. With a $50.00 bill as an example, No tip means the service sucked. $2 means the server was negligent but not so bad that I want to appear equally as shitty a person. $5.00 means the service was acceptable but nothing special. $10 means I was very pleased and anything more means I'm drunk, you are hot and I want to fuck you.

Black or white, right or wrong, if you eat in the same place twice and didn't tip the first time, you can assume you are eating some spit the second.

I've never worked in a food service establishment but know plenty who have. I'm married to a waitress. She doesn't do it but, trust me, spit happens.

More on topic. My wife says that blacks tip the least. Whites can go either way too much to really say. Hispanics are rarely over generous but most likely of all to at least leave a tip of some kind.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7688457 - 11/27/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Think about it....tips OR money to feed my habits....easy choice for me:needdrugs:


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Hahzist]
    #7688468 - 11/27/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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A respectable tip in pizza delivery is 2 - 3 dollars. For some reason people feel like waiters deserve to be tipped more even though delivery drivers are using their own car to bring your food to your house. I never understood that.




I'll give $3 for $12 order, but I feel they don't really "work" for it they way servers do the fact that they use their own car means nothing to me because they get paid more on the hour than servers, and plus I don't care, cars are expensive for most us manual laborers


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7688473 - 11/27/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

pizza delivery can't be bad...blaze the entire time and listen to music.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #7688500 - 11/27/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

whats the difference between a black person and a canoe?



Canoe's sometimes tip.


I was a bartender for serveral yrs, black people tip the worst. by far.
especially, certain black professional athletes who frequented the jazz club where ai tended bar...guys making millions and just dont tip. it must be a cultural thing.

the tipping, tho, has gotten out of hand. why should I tip my barber to cut my hair when it takes 15 minutes and he charges $15?

or the guy who slice up my gyro at the greek fast food restaurant? why the hell does he have a tip jar next to the register?


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: Tangerines]
    #7688507 - 11/27/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Tangerines said:
pizza delivery can't be bad...blaze the entire time and listen to music.


I liked it better than serving, though the pay was less. If you can't work on your own car or have an expensive car its not really worth it. I had to work on my old ford at least once a month to keep it running. New tires every year, new brakes about twice a year... and dont let the insurance know you are delivering, or they raise your rates hard core. I made $5.15/hr + tips for all the 5 years I did it.

Pizza driving is alot more dangerous than serving too... You have a much higher chance of dying in a car wreak (fighting traffic is a nightmare). Or getting robbed and murdered (that happened in my delivery area, the driver was killed for $40). Petty assaults are fairly frequent, I was assaulted probably a half dozen times in my pizza career. Usually its just a drunk and not life and death, but its still annoying and humiliating.


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: MrBump]
    #7688522 - 11/27/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Or how bout fuckin starbucks... and their tip jar which is always empty

3 bucks for a coffee. 50% of the time THIS YEAR starbucks has fucked up my order and it's not like it's hard. A FUCKIN CAPPACINO AND A LEMON LOAF. Maybe if they didn't make all the coffee like 5 thousands syllables they could fuckin remember when ppl ordered em

and they expect a damn tip?


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Re: Why do black folks only tip 10%? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7688587 - 11/27/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My usual tip is:

Get a better job! Now cook my burger medium rare, thrall.


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