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Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug
    #7685162 - 11/27/07 09:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/14694672/detail.html

INDIANAPOLIS -- A powerful, hallucinogenic plant is growing in popularity in Indiana and is drawing concern in other states.

Just a few puffs of Salvia divinorum, also known as Sally D., Magic Mint or Diviner's Sage, provide a short, powerful and sometimes debilitating trip, 6News' Todd Wallace reported.

Salvia is legal in Indiana, and young adults are increasingly using the drug to get high. It is not the same plant as the one some Hoosiers have in their gardens, though it is from the same family.

The plant provides a quick high that some have compared to LSD, and it's readily accessible to anyone.

Mazatec Indians in Mexico used salvia in traditional ceremonies for hundreds of years. It has been gaining popularity as a "meditational herb," and, in some cases, a quick, legal high.

People, young and old, have posted hundreds of videos on YouTube of themselves taking the drug and sharing the experience with the world.

In Indianapolis, salvia is available at J&A Smoke Shop, on the city's south side, among other places.

"We have seen a wide variety of people come in to purchase the salvia," said Zack Sidler, a salesman at the store.

"It's sold as an herbal meditational supplement," said James Garrison, owner of J&A.

Garrison said he cards buyers, even though he doesn't have to. Indiana law allows anyone to purchase the herb.

"It's for adults. It's not for kids. It's adult consumption, you know, 18 or older," Garrison said.

6News purchased salvia in several stores across Indiana, including shops in Indianapolis, Bloomington, Kokomo and Shelbyville.

Salvia is also readily available online, providing access to anyone with a credit card. Within days, dried leaves, concentrated extract and live plants were shipped to 6News.

Five different brands, some including vanilla and peach varities, were purchased in a couple of days. The easy access is what makes salvia so attractive to children.

Drug counselors said they are worried salvia is a gateway drug to other harmful substances.

"Young people are going to use it, and here's the reasons why. It's legal. It doesn't show up in a drug screen," said Rachelle Gardner, Fairbanks Adolescent Services director. "It's a very intense, very short, but very intense high."

Gardner, who deals with drug addiction in her job every day, said salvia should be regulated.

"Kids are keeping it on the down low, so parents and us adults don't pick up on it and start trying to regulate it for them," Gardner said.

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration calls salvia a "drug of concern," and has been considering whether to make it a controlled substance for 5½ years.

Individual states are moving faster. Seven have criminalized salvia altogether. Illinois' new law takes effect Jan. 1.

Maine took a less restrictive approach, limiting sale or possession to anyone age 18 or older.

Salvia user Jon Mustard offered to take 6News on his salvia trip.

"I feel like my face is trying to go over here, and I feel like you're going over there," Mustard said, as he pointed in two directions. "Now, I'm feeling like everything's more rocking."

As the intensity of the high wore off, Mustard described how the brightly colored walls changed.

"It just went crazy on me -- kind of like if you took a painting and you took your finger across it and the paint smears," Mustard said.

"You do have to keep in it check. It's something that you do need to use responsibly," Sidler said.

Officials are beginning to take a closer look at regulating salvia in Indiana.

Watch 6News Tuesday for more on Indiana's response to salvia and the personal story of a mother who believes it played a role in her son's suicide.


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7685217 - 11/27/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah, give it time, it'll be illegal because of idiots...


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: plasticbottle]
    #7685256 - 11/27/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

"Five different brands, some including vanilla and peach varities, were purchased in a couple of days."

That just pisses me right off! Now what the F_ck do we care if its  vanilla or peach flavored!? Once one takes off, the idea of smell or flavor disappears into oblivion. None of that matters.
I absolutely hate opportunists just looking to make money. I know, this is the free market and freedom to do what we want is the only way society should be. But here lies the problem...

I live plants and seeds=legal.
Prepared, ie dried leaf and extracts=illegal

Sometimes I just hate this world. And these articles that we've all read a million times before just piss me off. I just want to scream sometimes!!:banghead:
ok, ahhhhh...calm down...
all better, have a nice day everyone!:grin:
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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7685359 - 11/27/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I love how they always compare it to LSD. :smirk:


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Le_Canard]
    #7685527 - 11/27/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

fuck rachelle gardner spewing fucking bullshit.... i hate these motherfuckers for the simple fact that they do this shit like its gods work or something...

this is bullshit fucking bullshit


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Le_Canard]
    #7685647 - 11/27/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
I love how they always compare it to LSD. :smirk:



cause they both make you see colours


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Phishe]
    #7685690 - 11/27/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I see colors all day long. Who are the 'some' who compare it to LSD? I bet 'some' hasn't taken either salvia or LSD. When will people realize that it is not the governments job to protect one from oneself rather its the governments job to protect one from another?


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: robbyberto]
    #7685847 - 11/27/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dude Mellow out. What I dont get is how people can stand that stuff. thank goodnes it ends in a few minutes.


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: downlowfunk]
    #7686006 - 11/27/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If it causes inspiration and/or a new point of view, then it must be made illegal. Next week it'll be reading.


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: shroom_ninja]
    #7686032 - 11/27/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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shroom_ninja said:
If it causes inspiration and/or a new point of view, then it must be made illegal. Next week it'll be reading.




Oh god, don't give them any more ideas.


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    #7686244 - 11/27/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Robert Jarvik]
    #7686290 - 11/27/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It is these things in the hands of an irresponsible few that makes me shake my head in sadness for the beekeeper empire must now take away more bee pollen from the bees!!!!


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: downlowfunk]
    #7686291 - 11/27/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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downlowfunk said:
Dude Mellow out.  What I dont get is how people can stand that stuff.  thank goodnes it ends in a few minutes.



:wtf:
What the hell are you talking about?


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7686316 - 11/27/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It's not a high, it's not like LSD, totally irrelevant to mention this lady deals with drug addiction, the "children" who are attracted to it usually only use it once, the argument is basically it should be illegal because other things like it are, the suicide kid's mother is anecdotal evidence, Sidler's words are twisted to make it sound addictive, Jon Mustard is just a "salvia user" and you don't even ask him why he uses it

Basically: "It's available, it's powerful, and it scares us."


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Re: Indiana's Legal High: Teens Turned On To Powerful Drug [Re: Compass]
    #7687671 - 11/27/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

its not a high.

this entire article made me lol.

god damnit indiana...


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