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somestupidnewbie
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Pins before PF Jars fully colonized?
#7685111 - 11/27/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, as you can probably tell by the screen name, I'm not particularly experienced with this, so naturally I'm bound to fuck up at some point. Being a good stupid newbie, I USFSE much, and have yet to bother any of you knowledgeable folk with questions about how long it's taking to colonize or how much flour to use in my cakes, but I haven't been able to find the answers I'm looking for in this instance.
Background: RR said in a post somewhere that dark rye flour (cheap, at your local over-sized retail outlet brought to you by Sam Walton) was a suitable replacement for BRF in the PF-Tek, so I went that route. I ordered a few syringes from a shroomery sponsor (in this case, I am using KS), used verm from a local greenhouse. I also used Kerr jars and a cheapass PC, likewise obtained at Sam Walton's house of horror.
Following along with "Let's Grow Mushrooms!" I knocked up 20 jars of substrate, and put them on a shelf (high up to avoid the floor-level contam layer) and let them sit. Once a day I check them for contams (and for giggles.. I mean, I might be able to actually grow my own mushrooms.. come on, how fuckin cool is that?)
So, about three weeks into my very first attempt, I am sitting pretty with 15 of 20 jars at various points of colonization, having lost 4 to contam, and one that just didn't feel like growing. One of them only reached 100% visible colonization about 2 days ago or so, so I don't think that it is going to be fully colonized throughout the cake, yet it has a pin forming, and a bump growing (is this a knot?) that looks like it's going to be another pin. In another one of my jars, in which I can still see uncolonized spots, (I'll call it 90-95% of visible area colonized) also has a little biddy pin forming.
I've yet to see people mentioning pins forming invitro in jars, with the exception of the MMGG where he says to wait for pins to form inside the jars before birthing, and posts here on shroomery that say waiting that long is unnecessary.
So, opinions please? Should I birth/dunk/roll them now, or should I wait a while to make sure the substrate is fully colonized? Is this invitro pinning a good thing? Bad thing? If it's a bad thing, what did I do wrong, and how do I not do it again?
Sorry I don't have any pictures yet. I saw that little mushroom on my cake, and had to go tug one out right quick, so I haven't gotten around to the camera yet (stupid dead batteries). I figured I'd get the question asked before I got all fancy and figured out how to post pictures on a MB.
Thanks for getting me this far, guys and gals. This shroom is for you.
-Some Stupid Newbie
Edited by somestupidnewbie (11/27/07 09:37 AM)
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RogerRabbit
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It's not a problem. In fact, that cake looks about ready to birth anyway. I'd birth, dunk and roll, and then place into fruiting conditions. Don't bother picking that fruit off, as it will probably survive. If it aborts, you can always pick it off later.
One possible cause is drilling too large of holes in the lid. If so, they provide too much air exchange, which can lead to early pinning. If you used four needle sized holes, then that isn't the 'problem', but a natural occurrence. Good luck and congrats on your first fruit! RR
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somestupidnewbie
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Re: Pins before PF Jars fully colonized? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7685342 - 11/27/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks a ton Roger!
Yeah, my holes are just a bit bigger than the needle, I'd say about 1/16 of an inch. Thanks for the input, and the video. Looks like it's time to get to drilling holes and rinsing perlite.
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