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BanjoMojo
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PF-tek/B+ First Grow
#7683935 - 11/26/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I inoculated my first set of jars this evening. I PC sterilized them yesterday and allowed them to cool overnight. I just wanted to get this first pic up, and use this thread to showcase my progress/setbacks and seek counsel from veteran growers.
Now that I have a pressure cooker, I am going to give WBS a shot. After I get a few grows under my belt, I will start experimenting with liquid culture, FC automation, etc. But for now, I have 12 jars that shall sit in my office (~80 degrees) as I photodocument their growth (hopefully).
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7683957 - 11/26/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good.. I'm sure they'll look like this in no time:

What strain are you growing, where did you get it from and how many CC's have you used for each jar? Hope I'm not intruding on your thread, if it's meant to be a grow log, I apologize.
Good Luck!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: c0_hush]
#7683998 - 11/26/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No problem! I hope they look like that in a couple weeks.
It is the B+ strain that I obtained from SporeStore (which shipped my spores to the wrong address). I used approximately 1.5-2 ccs in each jar.
A few things to note: - I inoculated in open air. This isn't a problem for some, nor do I forsee it being a big problem for me, as I keep a clean home, and my inoculation area was in still air.
- I did not have an alcohol lamp, so I just used a cigarette lighter. I don't really see this being an issue at all, but I've never read anyone using a lighter.
- I bought the spores about a month ago. They have been in my fridge since then, sealed as they came to me. I don't see this being a huge problem either. I shook them well before inoculation.
Thanks for any input!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7684035 - 11/26/07 11:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome! I just recently inoculated 16 quarter pint jars with B+ i got from The Hawk's Eye, they are at around 15% now, just starting out.. As for the half pints on the pic, that's 8 A and 3 Cambodian. One of the Cambodian got a contam but it's my 1st grow so I'll take 12 out of 13 in a heart beat! The pic was taken at day 14 so you are pretty much dead on with your prediction of 2 weeks.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: c0_hush]
#7684070 - 11/26/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Keep me posted with your progress. I'll be posting pics on here when pertinent.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7684299 - 11/27/07 12:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good Banjo. I'm about to start a PF tek/B+ as well. Happy growing!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: spitstix]
#7713152 - 12/03/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had almost a full syringe left, so I prepared four quart jars of WBS and inoculated tonight. I still have about 3 ccs left of solution in my syringe, and I am going to attempt to make a liquid culture from it.
My BRF jars are not showing any signs of growth yet at the 7 day mark, but I hold out hope. One thing I've noticed is that the jars look a little dry. In some places, my dry verm layer on top has fallen down part of the side of the jar because the BRF/verm substrate has shrunk away from it.
I PC'd the jars for 90 minutes, while most teks say 60. Could this be a problem? Or does verm just tend to look dry?
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7713364 - 12/03/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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A couple of pics of my new WBS jars.

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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7713400 - 12/03/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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are you using verm and rice?
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: CollegeGuy]
#7713875 - 12/04/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will the mycelium get denser as it continues to colonize the jars? My jars don't seem as densely white as pics I've seen, not sure if this comes later. The surface of the jars are probably 80% colonized
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BuddhaTree]
#7714300 - 12/04/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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just wait a lil longer... noc'ing from spore takes a longer period to grow than live culture... Leave them there for a few more days and you will see growth.. It usually takes about 7 days for the spores to germinate.. then the myc will run rampant through your jars like a redneck in walmart on the 15th... haha..
just be patient, grasshopper...
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7716241 - 12/04/07 04:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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just want to give you a heads up i used sporestore and only one jar out of six colonized and after casing it the mushies were not cubes. also tried to make a lc and spores did not germinate. ordered a syringe from a shroomery sponsor and all jars have colonized fine and i have a great lc.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow *DELETED* [Re: CollegeGuy]
#7717693 - 12/04/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Reason for deletion: Uncouth comment on my part
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7718848 - 12/05/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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looking good. cant wait to get mine started!! keep us updated
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7719528 - 12/05/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
DJYoshaBYD said: then the myc will run rampant through your jars like a redneck in walmart on the 15th... haha..

Keep us posted!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: verminute]
#7738710 - 12/09/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tomorrow will be two weeks with no signs of growth. Any estimates on how much longer I should give it before I scrap them and start over?
Alternatively, could I just reinoculate them? I'm fairly sure the problem was the spores. I have ordered some new spores from SporeWorks, and I hope to have much better success with them.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7738882 - 12/10/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have reinnoculated jars before, just only use a little more like 1 cc max, because you don't want too much excess water in you jars, especially if its BRF, WBS can take a little extra water easier, but having too much mostiure will slow the colonization process.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: katfish]
#7739694 - 12/10/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks! One of my concerns was the jars possibly being a little too dry, so I think reinoculating may be just the key, not only for viable spores, but for the little extra water. Once I get the new spores, I'll fill you in.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7755905 - 12/13/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Received new spores today. I got a 4 syringe grab bag deal, as I really don't give a shit about strains right now, only completing a grow. The four strains I got were Chitwan, Costa Rica, Mazatapec, and Malabar.
I re-inoculated two of my WBS jars with Mazatapec and two with Malabar.
I re-inoculated six of my BRF jars with Chitwan and six with Costa Rica.
They are currently incubating in my water heater closet. Dark, clean, and warm.
We'll see if anything is happening in a week or so.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7774891 - 12/18/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I saw the first signs of growth in a few jars today. I had one jar fully colonized... with trich. It went in the garbage. I'm down to 11 half pint brf jars and my 4 quart wbs jars. Hopefully by Christmas, I'll have a nice gift of almost fully colonized jars.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7794170 - 12/23/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grain colonizing slowly but surely

My five remaining Costa Rica jars colonizing well

Closeup of two Costa Rica jars

Four of my Chitwan jars.

Closeup of the very rhizomorphic Chitwan mycelium.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7794175 - 12/23/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Doesn't look very rhizomorphic to me!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: lipa]
#7794453 - 12/24/07 12:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well that jar may not be the shining beacon of rhizomorphic development, but in comparison to the Costa Rica, which is much more cottony, the Chitwan seems to be a lot more rhizomorphic.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7794618 - 12/24/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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very rhizomorphic? not yet! Just wait until those start over taking the rest
Edited by tahoe (12/24/07 01:58 AM)
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7868310 - 01/12/08 08:21 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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hows your grow? anymore contams?
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7868458 - 01/12/08 09:30 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yeah I just read through all this and I'm curious how its going also.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: Serial]
#7868691 - 01/12/08 11:12 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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My four jars of grain are fully colonized. I'm going to spawn them to coffee/coir tonight. I plan to case with coir/verm around Tuesday or Wednesday.
I have had no other problems with contamination in my remaining eleven jars, and about 5 look to be fully colonized with the others at about 95%. When they are all done, I am going to put them in a shotgun FC with perlite.
I got some rye berries yesterday at my friendly neighborhood hippie grocery store, and they will be my next project. With one of the jars I will attempt a G2G transfer.
I'll post some pics as soon as I get to a Kodak moment.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7868709 - 01/12/08 11:19 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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excellent.. glad to hear you didnt quit
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7868928 - 01/12/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'm about to start my first grow using pf tec/b+ as well, where did you buy the first b+ spore syringe from? maybe they where the reason you had no signs of growth, bunk spores??
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BEEP]
#7871222 - 01/12/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I bought my first syringes from SporeStore and had zero results. I am actually not cultivating B+ at this time. I purchased my next syringes from SporeWorks. My BRF jars are Chitwan and Costa Rica and my WBS jars are Mazatapec and Malabar.
I just got some Hawaiian and Penis Envy syringes in the other day. I'm going to experiment with making a LC.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7955940 - 01/30/08 02:45 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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I spawned WBS to cpoo/verm about a week ago. I used one quart jar per 16 qt container. Each container probably only has about 10 quarts of substrate in it? Could that be the reason for the slow colonization time? I poked a few holes in the lids for these containers and covered with micropore tape, because I was afraid gas exchange may have been the problem.
I'm going to prepare some more grain and try a G2G transfer to get some more grain to try out a few other methods in the coming weeks. I've also started preparing my shotgun FC that I'm going to use with my cakes, which are all fully colonized now. I'm not going to birth them for a few days to make sure the mycelium has a good grip on the sub. I plan to dunk/roll the cakes after birthing.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#7955955 - 01/30/08 02:51 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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1:10 is a really high ratio, the generally accepted rule and that which I strive for is 1:4 spawn:sub. Your cakes sound like they are doing well though, they should pull through for you. Be sure to make prints!
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: xeallos]
#7956074 - 01/30/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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I was going a little skimpy because when I did my first batch of grain, I only had two jars of two different strains, and I wanted to use the extra jar of each for G2G practice. Next time, I'll lay it on a little thicker.
I'll post some pictures as soon after the next picture-worthy occurrence.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#8068931 - 02/25/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not being too familiar with growing, I would appreciate any input as to whether or not the spots in the lower pictures are cobweb mold or mycelium. If it is cobweb, is misting with peroxide the best way to subside the growth? If so, does the peroxide need to be diluted?
Thank you for your help.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#8068953 - 02/25/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lookin good bro just let them be . make sure u give them lots of FAE and make sure your humidity is up.
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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: Supplier]
#8095785 - 03/02/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pins!

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Re: PF-tek/B+ First Grow [Re: BanjoMojo]
#8106319 - 03/05/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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My first flush from one cake!
I know it's not a lot (19 grams wet), but for a project that started on 11/26/07 and has almost seen failure a few times, I'm glad to have anything from it.
I've got pins on three more of my cakes. There are seven other cakes that have yet to pin, but I've got pinning conditions in place. I've got light on them 12 on/12 off and they are getting tons of FAE.
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