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budmanman
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bleach misting.
#7682453 - 11/26/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I am trying the bleach misting and I did a 1/10- 1/15 bleach water mixture, like from the jug of bleach.
And I misted my many casings, is my ratio to potent?
Will def update with results.
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Nibin
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: budmanman]
#7682826 - 11/26/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do not mist with bleach, it is pointless and only serves to weaken the mycelia
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: Nibin]
#7683369 - 11/26/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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your ratios need to be up near 200:1
I think you have a little too much with your mix.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: tahoe]
#7686134 - 11/27/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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bleach from the jug comes at 6% rite?
So 1/15 of that already makes it what?
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: budmanman]
#7686141 - 11/27/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i don't understand why so many people want to consume bleach so bad >.>
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: anarchOi]
#7686192 - 11/27/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I want it to ward of contams for later flushes.
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budmanman
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: budmanman]
#7686196 - 11/27/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
budmanman said: bleach from the jug comes at 6% rite?
So 1/15 of that already makes it what?
1/15 of 6% is 0.004
so am I good? lol
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resptodd
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: budmanman]
#7686228 - 11/27/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just my newbie experience. I've had no problems with contams once the myc has taken hold. I think the most important aspect of staying contam free is paying attention to always being clean as possible. I always use that alcohol gel hand cleaner before going anywhere near my grows, or just moving stuff around my grows. I go through that alcohol gel like mad. Oh I also Oust the room even if just to open my IC and peek in.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7686236 - 11/27/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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around my 3rd flush trich loves to germinate and start to get the casing and works its way to the poo.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: budmanman]
#7686467 - 11/27/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Budmanman, what do you do? At that point is it worth saving? I want nothing to do with green mold, once I see it, I trash it. When you finally see the green the mold has finally taken hold? I've seen no "for sure" teks of getting rid of it.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7686478 - 11/27/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are no teks for getting rid of green mold, including bleach dunking and/or bleach misting. Use plain water for misting. Proper air exchange is the preventative measure for competitor fungi. RR
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resptodd
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Thanx RR
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7687756 - 11/27/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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budman
your problem is likely in your casing and/or your setup
if you're getting trich, usually it means your casing is too acidic or it could mean your FC temps are too high, too humid or something like that
bleaching your casings will damage the mycelium, leaving it open to contams
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: anarchOi]
#7687977 - 11/27/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acidic casing can contribute to contams?
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anarchOi
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7688009 - 11/27/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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that it can
that's why PH balancing is important when you use casing mixes instead of plain ol vermiculite which is simply a mineral and doesn't really have any nutrients
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: anarchOi]
#7688020 - 11/27/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done all my casing so far with a 50/50. Should I change my casing? 6 Hpoo pans so far, 8 to go.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7688053 - 11/27/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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50/50 what?
peatmoss often contains trich spores before you even get it, so you'll want to sterilize it then as it tends to be heavy on the acidic side of the PH scale even with 50/50 PM/Verm you'll want to add the right amount of hydrated lime to obtain a more neutral PH
i've heard people claim it practically eliminates trich from future grows
i wouldn't change the ones you've already done but the only time i played around with peat moss, it ended up in trich so you might want to consider 50/50+
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resptodd
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: anarchOi]
#7688162 - 11/27/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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50/50 peat/verm. Oh shit, so I might end up messing around with trich more than I want too. First caution I've come across about peat harboring trich.
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Re: bleach misting. [Re: resptodd]
#7688411 - 11/27/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's why we lime to pH 8 and pasteurize. RR
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resptodd
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RR, does the Ph change kill off trich? Is trich an acid lover?
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