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Compass
Ancient Light

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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683514 - 11/26/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't worry we're all crazy here, and we don't bite.
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kriminalelement
"jesus wept."



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Compass]
#7683543 - 11/26/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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if your racing thoughts are gone then you probably are not going to go nuts, that's the thing that did me and a few friends in. Luckily, I realized what was going on and got on an anti-depressant before I went totally nuts. The racing thoughts are what will drive you nuts, not the anxiety. When the anxiety is gone you should be able to get of the celexa. That shit tends to reset your neurobiology to a normal state.
Being anxious isn't going nuts, it's totally normal. The thing you really have to worry about is the racing thoughts, which you have under control.
YOU ARE NOT GOING CRAZY!!!!! The panic attacks will subside and you'll be back to normal in a few months. If I ever start to have a panic attack, I either get in the tub or read a book. Is there any normal activity that you have that calms you down? Do that whenever you freak.
-------------------- While there is a lower class, I am in it While there is a criminal element, I am of it While there is a soul in prison, I am not free. Eugene V Debs
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HELLA_TIGHT
Madge the Smoking Vag



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683563 - 11/26/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Embrace those feelings, then take 4 grams.
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HELLA_TIGHT
Madge the Smoking Vag



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683566 - 11/26/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get off that shit, anti-depressants are for bitches.
Handle reality, don't be a pussy.
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mlo517
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Re: Please someone give me some hope *DELETED* [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7683591 - 11/26/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT
Madge the Smoking Vag



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683599 - 11/26/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Deal with shit, don't just take some meds and try to forget about it.
What is bothering you?
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mlo517
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Re: Please someone give me some hope *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7683677 - 11/26/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brugman
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683724 - 11/26/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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This Will Shape You.
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RonaldFuckingPaul
Our Dear Leader



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Brugman]
#7683731 - 11/26/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Smoke some 1000x Salvia and you shall find the meaning of life..
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kriminalelement
"jesus wept."



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man, sometimes you need meds, going nuts is really not good. it doesn't enlighten you, it can just confuse you and really fuck up your life.
-------------------- While there is a lower class, I am in it While there is a criminal element, I am of it While there is a soul in prison, I am not free. Eugene V Debs
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HELLA_TIGHT
Madge the Smoking Vag



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Medication is for the weak.
Learn to deal with your problems, we're becoming a medicated society and that's weak.
Fucking people.
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Madge the Smoking Vag



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7683827 - 11/26/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here, watch this and be happy.
It's an autistic person, but it will cheer you up.
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evolprim
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7684100 - 11/27/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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man i gotta say i agree with hella. learn from this experience, its not that medication is for the weak but moreso that if you spend enough time with yourself working out your new feelings YOU WILL BE FINE. what are you worried about going crazy for anyway? plenty of crazy people are happy living on the streets, not saying that anxiety or racing thoughts will drive you crazy but still..also your feelings of detachment are all a result of your anxiety and are not rooted in reality.
keep us posted on how you are doing the members of the shroomery are looking out for you.       
good vibes your way man
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kane.ish
the ish


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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Cowgold]
#7684218 - 11/27/07 12:31 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
mlo517 said: ...I've sort have been living in my own reality...
Once you crack the door of perception, it can be tough to close it again
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mlo517 said: So basically, Is there any way to actually tell if my view is accurate, or does it manifest strictly from my perspective
If you aren't sure if your perception/perspective is accurate, then test it. Ask questions and investigate what you perceive.
You will always have a bias to your perception, but understanding that you do might help you to see around it somewhat.
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razmablues
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#7684477 - 11/27/07 02:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: Embrace those feelings, then take 4 grams.
took the words out of my mouth.
once you start understanding these new feelings and truths you have, your mentality seems to be getting more stable. take more you'll see the beauty in what you've realized! similar thing happened to me.
but of course you must assess your situation for yourself. good luck brother!
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truekimbo2
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: razmablues]
#7684529 - 11/27/07 02:46 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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you won't go crazy, the fact that you're concerned about your sanity is to me a good sign you're not going to just run with it. the anxiety lessens over time.
don't do more psychedelics, it gets way way way tripper than thinking all reality is subjective. about the time i quit i was dealing with all thought and imagination being impersonal and objective. (thought being something that lives outside of us and uses us as vessels).
don't assume everything drugs show you is automatically the absolute truth, it is often just a different perspective than you've seen before, but not all encompassing
reality is not subjective. there is an objective universe that people perceive with the proper sense organs. if you have eyes and your friend has eyes, if you both look at a lamp, you're both seeing the same lamp, not both of you seeing a different lamp. of course it is possible to influence your perceptions of physical things to such a point where you either see things that aren't there, or don't see things that are there, and lots of shades in between, but this is usually not a problem unless you're doing alot psychedelics or have severe mental problems (which is i'm pretty sure you don't from your post, you have normal mental problems that resolve themselves with time as long as you don't do anything to instigate it). people do have the ability to sync perception, feeling and thought, you are not always infinitely alone. people normally operate in semi-sync, but it is possible to achieve states where you and other people experience things exactly the same. i think its called inter-subjectivity.
i encourage you to test that hypothesis on your own, i'm pretty sure you'll find that you're not living in a completely subjective reality.
drugs show you how complex and hardware based perception is. it can become easy to think when you're tripping that the hardware is less stable than it really is, but actually the brain works to preserve homeostasis (a baseline), and you're only going to mess up your brains homeostasis (and by extension your ability to sync up with other people's realities) if you work at it, either through too much drug use or bizarre meditations. its really not an easy thing so don't worry about it.
as you focus more and more on your normal life and going through routine the psychedelic shock will wear off.
edit: since i mostly addressed the idea that all perception is subjective, i'm just going to stress for the 4th time that you're not going crazy and that the anxiety will not hurt you. if its been going on for months, you've probably already noticed at first it completely fucked you and you might have been scared to do normal everyday stuff. i'm guessing after a month or two you realised you couldn't just not live you life even though you were afriad of going crazy. as time goes by you'll notice the anxiety lessening and lessening.
oh yeah, and for the panic attacks, you should know those are biological not mental. yeah you are getting scared, but during a panic attack your brain dumps all its fear chemicals into your system all at once, thats why it feels like you're going crazy, because you are getting high off your brains own fear response. thats why it doesn't last more than 10 minutes or something like that, because your brain runs out of chemicals. usually the panic attack itself isn't so bad, but the worrying that another one will happen and that you'll go crazy. i assure you panic attacks don't make people go crazy, and they can only last a certain amount of time. tripping too much made me have them too, i got rid of them in about a month by repeating this to myself:
everytime i would feel a panic attack coming on i would say to myself "okay if i'm defintely going to have this panic attack then there is nothing i an do about it, but i am going to at least remember that its biological, and i won't lose control of myself, and it will fade, and then i'll be back to normal and can continue with what i'm doing within fifteen minutes or so."
so i would just repeat this to myself, and at first it helped me be less afraid of them, as i got less afraid of them i was able to stop them as they were starting by repeating that. after awhile they just completely stopped.
you don't have to use that approach, but for me just knowing that it couldn't kill me or make me crazy or last too long made it better.
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Edited by truekimbo2 (11/27/07 03:00 AM)
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truekimbo2
Cya later, friends.



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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: truekimbo2]
#7684531 - 11/27/07 02:50 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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btw, cowgold. very nice posts. thats pretty much how i deal with too much psychedelic thought.
mushroom says: your thoughts are not yours, you're swimming through a mental soup, that is actually just coming from higher dimensional entities.
me: you're right, i do need a new ipod, i guess i could pick up some extra hours from work, now i have to go play video games.
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sleepy
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: truekimbo2]
#7684633 - 11/27/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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insanity is a rhinocerous. salvador dali said that
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sleepy
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Re: Please someone give me some hope *DELETED* [Re: sleepy]
#7684644 - 11/27/07 05:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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mlo517
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Re: Please someone give me some hope *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: sleepy]
#7686050 - 11/27/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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