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Tangerines




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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7682686 - 11/26/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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exactly, and use that new knowledge to better yourself in any way possible. If it means breaking old habits or just a general attitude change. change is good and mushrooms can bring exponential change that is for sure. Good luck man.
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Learyfan
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7682696 - 11/26/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's possible that subjective reality is the entire meaning of life. Perhaps just one source of energy is at the root of all life. Perhaps this source of energy created subjective reality in order to know itself. Perhaps this source of energy caused it's many incarnations to forget about their true nature in order to play this game.
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Edited by Learyfan (11/26/07 05:09 PM)
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Compass
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Learyfan]
#7682713 - 11/26/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ai xink xat Yuu feel uloen and wont Sumwun tuu verufii yuor Egzistens, but it iz just Yuu and yuor Purspektiv ~ yur Reealitee drop.eeng aot frum undur Yuu / especulee in xis Susaiutee uv Gruup Xink
I think that you feel alone and want something to verify your existence, but it is just you and your perspective, like your reality dropping out from under you. Especially in this society of Group Think.
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Learyfan
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Compass]
#7682732 - 11/26/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess, dude.
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Learyfan]
#7682740 - 11/26/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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With no UNDERstanding, we FALL. right? I read that somewhere here.
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Tangerines]
#7682761 - 11/26/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think we all experience reality differently. all of our experiences are real, ram dass has said this and i agree, because real is just a word.
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Learyfan
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Tangerines]
#7682765 - 11/26/07 05:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're confusing me. I'm all high and confused. 
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: sleepy]
#7682778 - 11/26/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i was misunderstanding. but the key is that we can control what we experience by choice. our subjective reality can be altered, thats the trick, you choose what you experience. set and setting
Edited by sleepy (11/26/07 05:30 PM)
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: sleepy]
#7682847 - 11/26/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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so you guys are saying my perception of things arent the same as your guys'??? holy shit im freaking out man!!!vasjfsdkjfkjgsdbjabsd,fjAD<.fjnsadkjfgbskjdfbgkhsdf
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: AliceDee]
#7682920 - 11/26/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's a difference between saying it rationally and feeling it in your bones.
You're doing a disservice to the psychedelic experience, which is beyond words.
It's about coming to grips with transience, and knowing in this world of science, that the most important things, like reality, cannot be proven.
Seeing how objective reality, which pervades education and culture in the western world, is nothing but an abstract concept.
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Compass]
#7682962 - 11/26/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please don't take medications, dude. You need to let those thoughts flow through you and let them work themselves out. It could take several weeks and deep breathing will help. I think the anxiety is trying to push you to create your own reality, IMO.
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: Compass]
#7683062 - 11/26/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Compass said: There's a difference between saying it rationally and feeling it in your bones.
You're doing a disservice to the psychedelic experience, which is beyond words.
It's about coming to grips with transience, and knowing in this world of science, that the most important things, like reality, cannot be proven.
Seeing how objective reality, which pervades education and culture in the western world, is nothing but an abstract concept.
So what!?
You really are getting worked up so much over knowing this that you need medication? There's no reason to, because getting worked up over it doesn't do shit! Bingo, problem solved.
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Compass
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I'm not the OP, and he doesn't have to stay on the prescription forever
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683119 - 11/26/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah dude reality is a trip. if its any hope or comfort. i am pretty sure that almost everyone on the shroomery who trips, let alone all the other non trippers, or non shroomerites, have had some similar "life changing realization" at some point in their life. the key is to roll with it. 
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: evolprim]
#7683210 - 11/26/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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This happened to me once. I needed medication too. If you feel like you need it and it's helping you, don't freak. You're probably experiencing a mild form of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. A really simple SSRI should help you a lot. My problem wasn't so much the subjectivity of reality, it was the fact that I Obsessed over the experience to the point where it totally consumed me.
Personally, I don't like mushrooms. They don't mesh with my chemistry. I'm more interested in something cleaner.... like a crystal...
What's happened to you is you've lost faith in your third person perspective. Third person perspective (the reflection of the realities of other people) is what keeps us grounded in reality. You have to realize that all realities (no matter how subjective) and all people, no matter how strange, are all a part of you. You have to trust them like you would trust yourself, to a degree. Once you regain this trust, your reality will be more stable.
The lesson is that your own reality taken by itself can be interesting, but you live in a world where you have to interface with another set of realities. If you can't go back to knowing that somehow, you'll continue on a path of subjectivity and, like some of my friends, follow fictional owls of your own imagination through a patch of trees, or start talking loudly to your pizza in a public place and get the cops called on you.
Everything will be fine. You just have to recover and put yourself back into mundanity for a while.
And stop obsessing over it. Try to go a whole day without thinking about it.
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Re: Please someone give me some hope *DELETED* [Re: kriminalelement]
#7683443 - 11/26/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683463 - 11/26/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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mlo517 said: wait so youre saying i can go crazy from this?!?!
Yea its only a matter of time before it eats you from the inside out until you are a soulless being simply walking the earth.
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#7683482 - 11/26/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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kriminalelement
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Re: Please someone give me some hope [Re: mlo517]
#7683487 - 11/26/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's possible, but these people were under a lot of strain.
It's not permanent, but if you don't stop freaking out about shit, you're mind will break under the stress. Long periods of stress can cause your brain to give out. It's not the shrooms, it's just how you're REACTING. Change your reaction.
Like I said, take a simple SSRI. Don't take anything that fucks with your dopamine/norepeniphrine levels, because this will actually exacerbate symptoms of racing thoughts, hyperactivity, and anxiety. Try to take something with a bit more of a sedative effect.
Either that or you can get on a mild anti-psychotic, but I wouldn't recommend it because it doesn't sound like you are going crazy. It just sounds like you keep stressing out over a traumatic event, which can make you a little off-balance.
But yeah, I have seen people go off the deep end after some heavy mushroom trips. Most of them freaked out for a while and then got over it. Two of them had to be hospitalized. One of those two totally FLIPPED. He saw demons running around in a field of corn battling each other TOTALLY SOBER. He was so violent he had to be strapped down to a table.
But they're both fine now. The important thing to remember is that ITS NOT PERMANENT, you will return to a state of normality and you just have to ride it out until it's over. Just like tripping. If you start to freak and think you're going crazy, you WILL go crazy. Like you said, reality is all in the mind.
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#7683507 - 11/26/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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