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LC to Coir Doesen't work
    #7680811 - 11/26/07 07:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Just so you know.. LC to coir does not work.. i tried it 2 separate ways to test.

I mad an LC. I had a nice STERILE bag of moist coir and added some good myc from the LC.. a week later NOTHING

i also added a bunch of coir to the LC (i had room in the jar) and it expanded.. i dumped off the excess moisture and a week later.. NOTHING..

this was by no means a well controlled test.. but IMHO LC to Coir does not work..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7680869 - 11/26/07 08:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i thought coir wasn't supposed to be very nutritious


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: anarchOi]
    #7680879 - 11/26/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Untrue..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7680882 - 11/26/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I thought you were just supposed to spawn to coir


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7680888 - 11/26/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

True.. and it is nutritious.. this was an experiment.. it failed..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7680895 - 11/26/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Alright I wasn't sure what exactly you were doing, I've heard good things about it (coir), it's fun to test things out though.


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7680905 - 11/26/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yep..

So before anyone goes trying this.. trust me.. it dont work.. i was sure that the dry coir i stuck in the lc would work.. but it did not..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7680910 - 11/26/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I wanna make an LC this time around, I only grew once on BRF cakes, so this time I'm gonna try casing and make an LC. I'll have to see whats available to me in my area before I know what I'm gonna use for substrate and what I'm going to spawn to.


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #7680917 - 11/26/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

sorry, i mostly just assumed that's why people always add alot of things to it

does anyone know if blood meal or bone meal have much value in the myco world?

it seems like LC's don't work with alot of things
i still reccomend the agar substitute for anyone struggling with LCs


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: anarchOi]
    #7680945 - 11/26/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

honey works great.. its easy... never failed me..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7681160 - 11/26/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i've used the clearest honey i could find and still can't really tell if the LCs i have are really colonized

i got some weak growth out of one that KIND OF gave me a colonized cake
karo worked for me too, got some better growth from in it when i put an agar wedge in some
karo doesn't seem to have alot for the mycelium though, it doesn't take long for growth to stop


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: anarchOi]
    #7681261 - 11/26/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I use both blood meal and bone meal in my Hpoo compost


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: resptodd]
    #7681295 - 11/26/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

off topic... we were discussing coir and LC not bloodmeal and bonemeal... UTSE and you will get your answer...


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7681397 - 11/26/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Best medium for LC in my humble opinion is 5g turbinado sugar ("Sugar in the Raw") dissolved in 220ml of water.

If the coir was hydrated correctly (not too much moisture!) then LC should colonize it if it was done in sterile conditions.

#1 killer of coir substrates is excessive moisture, because it can hold SO MUCH water. When I spawn coir, I squeeze all of the water out of each handful I possibly can, and then break the handfuls up so that it's nice and airy. If you were going to try to make a coir "cake" in a jar or a bag, you'd want to do the same thing.


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7681520 - 11/26/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

ok ill try that.. the coir to LC was definetly too moist... ill try lc to a coir bag.. but ill watch the moisture this time and maybee ill have better luck


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Slimz]
    #7682964 - 11/26/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Just so you know.. LC to coir does not work.. i tried it 2 separate ways to test.

I mad an LC. I had a nice STERILE bag of moist coir and added some good myc from the LC.. a week later NOTHING

i also added a bunch of coir to the LC (i had room in the jar) and it expanded.. i dumped off the excess moisture and a week later.. NOTHING..

this was by no means a well controlled test.. but IMHO LC to Coir does not work..




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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Nibin]
    #7683037 - 11/26/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'd be interested to know whether that was straight coir or a coir mix (ie coffee, ph balance etc)


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Re: LC to Coir Doesen't work [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7683050 - 11/26/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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#1 killer of coir substrates is excessive moisture, because it can hold SO MUCH water. When I spawn coir, I squeeze all of the water out of each handful I possibly can, and then break the handfuls up so that it's nice and airy. If you were going to try to make a coir "cake" in a jar or a bag, you'd want to do the same thing.



SO you're saying that the ideal moisture content of coir is NO dripping when squeezed?
I've never heard anyone say that. It would have been good to know since I just had to throw out 12 trays. The moisture content was "field capacity" I guess that may have been my problem. Too wet.
How long does your coir take to colonize Sillycybin?


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Re: LC to Coir Doesn't work [Re: Bikerfool]
    #7684196 - 11/27/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I tried using abit more moisture in my coir

not a good idea , cobweb on both tries

I am currently using the squeeze test to the point where I dont want any water to drip, I usually mist a bit while colonizing my tubs. also i like the results of second flushes (after a dunk)better anyway , the colonized myc will fight off contams..


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Re: LC to Coir Doesn't work [Re: Vegan]
    #7684504 - 11/27/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LC's? Check my LC Tek in my grow log on this forum...

I in no way recommend it as a top-notch procedure, but hey - it worked for me!


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