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trentallica
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pinning problems....advice please.
#7679123 - 11/25/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i started growing in september, and have so far harvested over 6 lbs of dry shrooms. i use large grow bags placed into a 13 cup plastic gladware bowel,cased, and then placed in a mini green house. temps run in the 70s. RH a little high at 95 to 99%. fanned 6 times a day.
for the most part i harvest about 12 to 16 days after i case with an average of 1 1/2 to 2 oz dried weight per first flush per bowel.
the problem im having right now is that im getting a few casings that will not have a pinn set, but 3 or 4 shroom will show up, and thats all i get. those 3 or 4 shrooms grow very slow, and i often get no 2nd flush at all. over all dry weight is about 50 to 75% of the other casings. yes they get huge, but thats not what im looking for right now.
is this a familiar problem with any one else out there that can give me some advice ??
ill be glad to answer any questions, but the earliest i can respond will be in about 14 hours ( after 10 am MST).
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7679157 - 11/25/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you innoculating using multispore or a strain isolate?
Could be bad genetics.
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trentallica
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: Nibin]
#7682368 - 11/26/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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all the casings are of the same strain, and only a few get the 3 to 4 shroom syndrome, so i rule out DNA. inoculation is not my problem. my problem takes place about 5 weeks after inoculation. i dont see the connection, but obviously i dont know every think yet.
i use MS
still working on getting some isolates.
thanks so far
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trentallica
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7682589 - 11/26/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok so i have been awake for over 24 hours. just the way life goes sometimes. work, computer class, court, whatnot. im about as tired as i can get right now. that and i just smoked some of the fucking most purple weed i have ever seen in my life.
im looking at my new batch of babies, and wondering what to do. i have 10 casings, and 4 are showing 4 to 6 shrooms apiece about a lest 1/2" tall, and the rest that were all cased at the same time have only started to knot.
what if the casing was too thin in places, and those small thin spots meet the air, and light a lot earlier then anything else in the casing, and pinned.
but why would the rest of the casing not get a pinn set. the myc continues to grow on top of the casing mix, but no pinns.
if i pick what shrooms are growing would that maybe cause the rest of the casing to pinn, or would i just loose everything??
fucking odd
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7682606 - 11/26/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did you inoc from spores or was it an "isolated strain"
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7682632 - 11/26/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
trentallica said:
i use MS
still working on getting some isolates.
thanks so far
Silly Veda!
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7682636 - 11/26/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
trentallica said:
i use MS
Edit: shroomy, you beat me to the punch
Edited by Molasses (11/26/07 04:52 PM)
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: trentallica]
#7682912 - 11/26/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
trentallica said: all the casings are of the same strain, and only a few get the 3 to 4 shroom syndrome, so i rule out DNA. inoculation is not my problem. my problem takes place about 5 weeks after inoculation. i dont see the connection, but obviously i dont know every think yet.
i use MS
still working on getting some isolates.
thanks so far
You got something wrong there. If using multispore each jar will contain different genetics as each and every spore has different genetics to all the others. So out of a single syringe you can get both amazing and crappy jars.
This is why we clone.
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trentallica
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: Nibin]
#7683784 - 11/26/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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in defense of veda his post was only 3 min after my post in which i answer the isolates vs MS question. im sure he had not yet seen my answer.
dont use jars. i use grow bags filled with 4 lbs of a H poo/verm/WBS mix.
working on that clone.
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trentallica
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Re: pinning problems....advice please. [Re: Nibin]
#7683803 - 11/26/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nibin said:
Quote:
trentallica said: all the casings are of the same strain, and only a few get the 3 to 4 shroom syndrome, so i rule out DNA. inoculation is not my problem. my problem takes place about 5 weeks after inoculation. i dont see the connection, but obviously i dont know every think yet.
i use MS
still working on getting some isolates.
thanks so far
You got something wrong there. If using multispore each jar will contain different genetics as each and every spore has different genetics to all the others. So out of a single syringe you can get both amazing and crappy jars.
This is why we clone.
i really think you are trying to make this post into a debate that has nothing to do with my problem. im sure you want to help, but you seem a little hung up on the DNA issue. not to say there is no valid point to the DNA point you make. i just dont think it is as valid as you would like it to be
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