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anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby
    #7678914 - 11/25/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

is it inherently anti-semetic to speak out against the pro-israel lobby
that operates in washington?

is the term 'zionist' inherently anti-semetic?

I see people getting a lot of flack being called jew haters and anti-semites
because they refer to instances like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC_espionage_scandal

and call for an end to the israel lobby operating in washington.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: afoaf]
    #7679033 - 11/25/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It is not inherently anti-semitic to criticize Israel.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7679073 - 11/25/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

happy birthday


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: afoaf]
    #7679096 - 11/25/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7679353 - 11/25/07 06:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

any special plans?


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: afoaf]
    #7681490 - 11/26/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

None. I like it that way.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7681559 - 11/26/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

> is it inherently anti-semetic to speak out against the pro-israel lobby that operates in washington?

How did "semitic" get associated with Jews only? From what I remember, semitic refers to semitic languages which include Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew, Maltese, and many others.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: Seuss]
    #7681715 - 11/26/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Which is quite 100% true. Except usage has wandered from what it once was. Clearly a JEW conspiracy.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7682145 - 11/26/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

fuckers got their mits in EVERYTHING


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: afoaf]
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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: JRayV]
    #7682845 - 11/26/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sooner or later one had to show up.


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Re: anti-semitism and the pro-israel lobby [Re: afoaf]
    #7685168 - 11/27/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No. I know plenty of Jewish radicals who embrace their religon but are strongly oppossed to what they refer to as the "Israeli occupation of Palestine." Anyone who tells you it is anti-semitic to, for political reasons, be oppossed to Israel and its lobbyists is trying to bully you with political correctness.

Zionism is tricky. I think it is primarily a manifestation of paranoia and provincialism to believe that there is a world-wide conspiracy of Jewish elders plotting dominance. This paranoia is probably usually fueled by racism, but I suppose one could be unprejudiced towards the Jewish people as a whole while still believing that a select group of them are part of a power conspiracy. I mean I believe that Rupert Murdoch is at the head of what is essentially a conspiracy, but I'm not racist against Australians.


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