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OfflineGillette
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A few realizations
    #7678435 - 11/25/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I guess being so sick in the last few weeks I had alot of time to think....

1. I love you guys. Like seriously. Its almost sad, when I thought I was in big trouble and might actually die like the doctors were suggesting, I wanted to be a big fag and go blabbing about how much i miss this place and love everyone and on and on. I wanted to sit here and just bullshit.

2. I take my body for granted. I felt like a real ass, knowing full well that I eat terribly, don't sleep, work too much, party too much, put a bunch of crap in my body and expect it to work.

3. I do not have a handle on death. I seriously consider for a long while how shitty it would be if hell existed and the likelihood that I'd be going there.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678445 - 11/25/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

What would make you even entertain the idea of hell existing?


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7678457 - 11/25/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why are you dying?


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678460 - 11/25/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1. We love you too. :heart:

2. Take care of yourself. You have something special, so you should treat it well.

3. I don't think very many people do have a handle on death. I know I don't.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678462 - 11/25/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:stoned::heartpump:  Hell is only in your mind.  Free your mind with love.

Love you too.  Glad you're okay and I'll get to see you again eventually.  :grin:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678463 - 11/25/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

haha no one has a HANDLE on death. its the ultimate unknown. but on the bright side, theres just as much of a chance of hell existing as there is magical gumdrop land
hell would be okay also, its where all the fun people would hang out. :smile:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: evolprim]
    #7678467 - 11/25/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

And an even better chance that we're all just a random collection of cells and we only entertain the idea of an afterlife because we are narcissistic.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678488 - 11/25/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1.  Online love!  :heart:

2.  I suggest that you start eating well.  I'm a health nazi.  Eat healthy naural food and don't eat garbage.  Also, exercise (even if it's just going for a walk) every day.

3.  Why would you of all people go to hell?  I just don't see it.

Big hugs!  :inlove:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: robbyberto]
    #7678493 - 11/25/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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And an even better chance that we're all just a random collection of cells and we only entertain the idea of an afterlife because we are narcissistic.




Life is just a very small possiblity, that actually happened.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: robbyberto]
    #7678495 - 11/25/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Death feels okay to me because of birth.  I was born once, and so I shall die.  It feels natural and okay to die because I was born.  What was I before I became me?  What will I be after me?  There's emptiness and unknown on both sides of this moment of life.  So since I came from the unknown, I feel okay going back. 

It's all okay, either way.  :smile:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: MOTH]
    #7678510 - 11/25/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Death feels okay to me because of birth. I was born once, and so I shall die. It feels natural and okay to die because I was born. What was I before I became me? What will I be after me? There's emptiness and unknown on both sides of this moment of life. So since I came from the unknown, I feel okay going back.




Wow, that's a really cool thought and outlook.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7678523 - 11/25/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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What would make you even entertain the idea of hell existing?




I was raised as a Catholic...I can't help the thought creeping in every once in awhile.....

Olive: I got sick and the doctors thought I had a series of fatal ailments, menegitis, purpra (blood vessels burst and you flood your body with your own blood and die). However, I'm still alive so false alarm.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: robbyberto]
    #7678533 - 11/25/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i agree with that idea more than any other, but if were gonna entertain a hypothetical. we may as well entertain magical gumdrop land.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7678534 - 11/25/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I fail to see why you believe that. Life has taken hold wherever possible on this planet(http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212089/hisextrem.htm), is it really so unlikely? Considering the vastness of the universe I feel entirely positive saying that there are trillions of other forms of intelligent life. Why are we so special? We all die and help to support other forms of life. I don't see why it is seen so negatively. We're not important. I would even go so far as to say life is inevitable but not in the sense that life will be in particular place. Do you know what I mean?


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678541 - 11/25/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

nothing but love for the gillette...

they say its the best a man can get.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678623 - 11/25/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

1. :heart:

2. Yeah I take my body for granted sometimes too. Feel like an ass for it especially since I know a lot better. The saying, you are what you eat.. is so true. Eat well.. or at least as well as you are able to. No one needs to workout all the time but at least get some walking exercise and fresh air and sunshine, that stuff is really taken for granted in modern society.

3. IMO, hell is in the mind. I know cause I've been there. We have a choice how we want to live life in the present, and our perception on reality is all that matters in how we see it. Life is a very, very dynamic place.. and you can have many different views of reality. Heaven and Hell are states of mind.
As for what's after death, I have a few ideas.. but I try not to dwell on them and just live every moment of life as I have it in the present. If the rest of Nature and The Universe is any indication to the overall scheme of life and death.. everything is a neverending cycle and life feeds death feeds life. I wouldn't worry too much about eternal suffering and agony and torment with fire and brimstone. Religion has been one of the greatest vices of our civilization and caused much pain and suffering itself. I'm relatively sure the Universe is a place full of love, and if hell exists we're in it already here on Earth. Don't worry about death, because everyone who lives has to die eventually, it's part of the cycle of life. Just live life to its fullest while you can. And when your time comes, go in peace.
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Re: A few realizations [Re: Shroomism]
    #7678685 - 11/25/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if hell exists we're in it already here on Earth.




yeah this is kinda what I was thinking.


Moth what you said makes alot of sense too.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7678875 - 11/25/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

maybe you havent eatin enough shrooms yet Gillette


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Re: A few realizations [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7678911 - 11/25/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

somehow, I don't think shrooms are the answer to any of those problems, definatly not the health issues.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: LosAngelesGraff]
    #7679088 - 11/25/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe you havent eatin enough shrooms yet Gillette




hey there, acid is just as good :crankey:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: razmablues]
    #7679104 - 11/25/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe you havent eatin enough shrooms yet Gillette




hey there, acid is just as good :crankey:




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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7679133 - 11/25/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't believe in hell but I'm scared as shit that I might go there. Does that make sense?








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Re: A few realizations [Re: Learyfan]
    #7679211 - 11/25/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Its like the "just in case" fear.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7679223 - 11/25/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

As food for thought, that "just in case fear" is the rationale behind a lot of people becoming religious as they get older and closer to death; the same fear certain religious figureheads will rely on to gain power and control of you.

Hope you get better!


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7679258 - 11/25/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You only believe because that's what you grew up with and it has indelibly wormed its way into your brain. These realizations did not come to you as an intelligent and mature adult (as they should have). They were shoved into your brain when you were young and impressionable and you didn't have the ability to appropriately examine, question, and accept them.

First of all, the Catholic church has a history of being fallible. They persecuted Galileo for him saying that the Earth orbited the sun. It turns out that they were wrong and he was right. They claimed that purgatory exists and now they claim that it doesn't exist. So, obviously they were wrong somewhere along the lines with that. Then the whole organization itself covered up for the fact that pedophiles were running rampant through their ranks. These are just a few examples of how Catholic doctrine and Catholic church actions have been and can be wrong. And this is the organization that declares that they and they alone must mediate between God and I? Fuck that. I don't trust any organization that claims infallibility and yet has such blatant examples of fallibility.

You can believe in a Creator, morality, and all that jazz and not be beholden to any specific religious beliefs.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7679262 - 11/25/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The Shroomery is your boyfriend! :kissy:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: kake]
    #7679275 - 11/25/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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As food for thought, that "just in case fear" is the rationale behind a lot of people becoming religious as they get older and closer to death




That pisses me off so much. A person should be religious because they have come to certain spiritual realizations and they desire to follow them because they are true. Yet most people only believe because they want reward or because they want to avoid punishment; not because it is the right thing to do.

As I get older I get less religious. I'm not going to grovel before God or any institution when I'm about to die. I have too much self-respect for myself.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7679281 - 11/25/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, because even though it isn't likely in my opinion, I can't shake the thought that it might exist. I hope that some day I can move past this. Shroomery member #1266, kake was correct that this fear is exploited by religion to gain control of people though. In fact, the exploitation of this fear is the corner stone of most religion, I'm sure.







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Re: A few realizations [Re: kake]
    #7679293 - 11/25/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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As food for thought, that "just in case fear" is the rationale behind a lot of people becoming religious as they get older and closer to death; the same fear certain religious figureheads will rely on to gain power and control of you.

Hope you get better!




That's very true, and I never figured that out.


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Learyfan]
    #7679294 - 11/25/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i've always thought that album cover was so ridiculous... they have everyone but jerry faded out.. and i can't believe they're dressed like that :rolleyes:


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Re: A few realizations [Re: Gillette]
    #7696690 - 11/29/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess being so sick in the last few weeks I had alot of time to think....

1. I love you guys. Like seriously. Its almost sad, when I thought I was in big trouble and might actually die like the doctors were suggesting, I wanted to be a big fag and go blabbing about how much i miss this place and love everyone and on and on. I wanted to sit here and just bullshit.

2. I take my body for granted. I felt like a real ass, knowing full well that I eat terribly, don't sleep, work too much, party too much, put a bunch of crap in my body and expect it to work.

3. I do not have a handle on death. I seriously consider for a long while how shitty it would be if hell existed and the likelihood that I'd be going there.





whoa there with the hell talk...dont let that crazy christian guilt infect your brain. ill have to kidnap you, take you to some place full of nutty christians like kansas. that will definently scare any reisdual jesus guilt right out of you


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