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Sporetastic
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: follow]
#7678946 - 11/25/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just make sure to eat a small to medium sized ammount. Don't take them on a day when you are feeling depressed or anxious, period. You will automatically have a bad trip if you do. And don't be scared of the possibility of having a bad trip or that will make you have a bad trip. Also don't do them alone or in silent darkness like some people might recomend. After all how much fun can a person experience sitting by themselves in silent darkness. Shrooms are about magnifying the senses IMO so why not have visual and or musical stimuli? IMO music and or video entertainment can enhance trips and so can taking walks outside. Just don't sit around on them. You must be able to have fun without the shrooms for the shrooms to magnify that fun if you get what I am saying. I learned that the hard way.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: Robo]
#7679037 - 11/25/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I suffer from depression a lot, too... probably not as severe as what you go through, but nonetheless, it's noticeable. From my past experience, the only times I felt normal was when I was on Adderall... but I didn't like that. I was also on Zoloft for about a year, and it didn't do anything.
If you've ever heard of Salvia, it can be a very good antidepressant. After a good Salvia trip, it can leave you feeling happy and refreshed for days, despite the almost always intense and horrifying trip. I've done Salvia many, many times, and noticed no negative mental effects (aside from an increased frequency of deja-vu). I also tried mushrooms a few months ago... it was nothing like I expected, but in a good was. It was, now that I look back on it, the most beautiful, important experience of my life. It really caught me off guard, though. I did a pretty strong dose, and I just kept thinking "What's going on? What did I do to myself?".
After the trip, while I was still kinda coming down, I had this horrible feeling like I would never be the same, and that I wouldn't be able to hide the things that I'd seen. Slowly, but surely, I went to sleep, and the next morning, I felt back to normal again. I guess this has turned into more of a trip report than a small bit of helpful advice, but I just wanted to say, psychedelics (specifically mushrooms) haven't made me "go crazy", even though I had a bit of a bad trip at the beginning.
I wouldn't worry about going crazy or having a bad trip anyway. Just think about positive things, have good, inspirational music, and keep a piece of paper and a pencil with you at all times. I didn't find it necessary to have a sitter, because he didn't really help calm me down much (I was freaking out at one point, and I was asking him what to do; he kept telling me to go with the flow, but I, for some reason, thought everything he was saying was "fake")... also, he said he was pretty fucking bored, because the whole time, I pretty much just sat on the floor, listening to music, and waved my hands around over the ground. I did, however, end up with some pretty bizarre scribblings the next day...
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: Robo]
#7679061 - 11/25/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i wouldn't do it man. psychedelics will usually intensify whatever mood your in. you say you've been depressed for a long time so i don't see how shrooms are gonna help your situation.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: Robo]
#7770522 - 12/17/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys,
I couldn't remember what my password was so I reregistered - sorry about that.
I did end up trying the mushrooms today.
As for the mushrooms, I'm very confident they were legit, as they were from a trusted and experienced source.
The experience really was really different from what I was expecting though, and I'm not sure what to think.
I decided that for the first time I'd try it out with a very small dose, starting off with 0.75 mg dried, and if I reacted okay to that, would take another 0.75 mg dried an hour later, but not go over a total of 1.5 grams this time, to be on the safe side. I took them with a shot glass and 2mg clonazepam to relieve anxiety, but since I take clonazepam daily it doesn't really have any impairing effects on me.
I wasn't feeling much after an hour, so I took the rest. The experience didn't really intensify after this either, so it did make me wonder whether having taken more later would actually intensify the experience, or whether it's only what you start out with that counts. Can anyone clarify on this?
The most noticeable effects I got was that colours really brightened, and were much more intense and vivid than what I am used to. During the 'peak' of the effects I noticed that the walls sort of had a 3-D effect to them, and that if I focused really hard on them they'd sort of form mild patterns. I did get somewhat high, I felt a moderate mental buzz as well as a mood lift.
I was surprised at how incredibly easy it was to handle, contrary to the many many reports I read suggesting otherwise. This a period in my life where I have a lot of anxiety, and all of it just melted away. There was no paranoia whatsoever. I have a lot of skeletons in my closet, and I guess I was expecting a somewhat more confrontational experience, but it didn't happen. I did consider some negative aspects of my life, and none of them were difficult to deal with, nor did I get stuck on them or feel depressed. I couldn't really picture any way this could go bad, and it never did.
This is coming from a person who gets incredible paranoia, depression, self-criticism, and anxiety when smoking marijuana.
I felt really clear minded, too. Too clear minded almost... I set off the day to myself to not have any responsibilities, but I think I would have been able to carry out whatever I had to without any problems. Overall, it really wasn't very intense at all... a strong marijuana buzz, to me, was much, much more intense than this, and a lot more "out of control."
After a few hours when the effects wore off I began to feel a bit depressed, but that wore off too after a bit.
So, overall it was pleasant, but I am somewhat disappointed in sense that I didn't really learn anything from it... it didn't alter my way of thinking, nor my perceptions too much. The whole thing was really quite underwhelming.
I don't know, any thoughts? Does this sound like a normal experience, or not?
I am also prescribed Seroquel 100mg (an antipsychotic) "off label" for insomnia to use on rare occasions when my insomnia is really out of hand. I have heard that people use these drugs to abort trips. I did take it 2 nights ago, probably not long enough ago for it to clear out of my system, so I'm thinking maybe it was responsible for toning down the effects.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: Robo]
#7770651 - 12/17/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im glad to see your looking into mushrooms as a way to not only learn but help you personally. I think this type of thinking behind it (plus not caring about a bad trip) is just the type of thinking that will let you get the most (pleasurable) experience mushrooms have to offer. I personally think you can benefit highly from mushrooms, but I would definitely get yourself a sitter because it can magnify the problems but that again is a maybe. Regardless its good to be safe. So I would definitely try mushrooms I think they have a good possibility to helping you. You might also want to try some opioids. Now dont get yourself addicted to anything, but they do create some intense euphoria, which will kill your mental pain. That aside I think mushrooms have the possibility of being more beneficial in the long run. Just letting you know of a short term idea.
Hope it works out for you man
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: follow2]
#7770694 - 12/17/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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follow2 said: Hi guys,
I couldn't remember what my password was so I reregistered - sorry about that.
I did end up trying the mushrooms today.
As for the mushrooms, I'm very confident they were legit, as they were from a trusted and experienced source.
The experience really was really different from what I was expecting though, and I'm not sure what to think.
I decided that for the first time I'd try it out with a very small dose, starting off with 0.75 mg dried, and if I reacted okay to that, would take another 0.75 mg dried an hour later, but not go over a total of 1.5 grams this time, to be on the safe side. I took them with a shot glass and 2mg clonazepam to relieve anxiety, but since I take clonazepam daily it doesn't really have any impairing effects on me.
I wasn't feeling much after an hour, so I took the rest. The experience didn't really intensify after this either, so it did make me wonder whether having taken more later would actually intensify the experience, or whether it's only what you start out with that counts. Can anyone clarify on this?
The most noticeable effects I got was that colours really brightened, and were much more intense and vivid than what I am used to. During the 'peak' of the effects I noticed that the walls sort of had a 3-D effect to them, and that if I focused really hard on them they'd sort of form mild patterns. I did get somewhat high, I felt a moderate mental buzz as well as a mood lift.
I was surprised at how incredibly easy it was to handle, contrary to the many many reports I read suggesting otherwise. This a period in my life where I have a lot of anxiety, and all of it just melted away. There was no paranoia whatsoever. I have a lot of skeletons in my closet, and I guess I was expecting a somewhat more confrontational experience, but it didn't happen. I did consider some negative aspects of my life, and none of them were difficult to deal with, nor did I get stuck on them or feel depressed. I couldn't really picture any way this could go bad, and it never did.
This is coming from a person who gets incredible paranoia, depression, self-criticism, and anxiety when smoking marijuana.
I felt really clear minded, too. Too clear minded almost... I set off the day to myself to not have any responsibilities, but I think I would have been able to carry out whatever I had to without any problems. Overall, it really wasn't very intense at all... a strong marijuana buzz, to me, was much, much more intense than this, and a lot more "out of control."
After a few hours when the effects wore off I began to feel a bit depressed, but that wore off too after a bit.
So, overall it was pleasant, but I am somewhat disappointed in sense that I didn't really learn anything from it... it didn't alter my way of thinking, nor my perceptions too much. The whole thing was really quite underwhelming.
I don't know, any thoughts? Does this sound like a normal experience, or not?
I am also prescribed Seroquel 100mg (an antipsychotic) "off label" for insomnia to use on rare occasions when my insomnia is really out of hand. I have heard that people use these drugs to abort trips. I did take it 2 nights ago, probably not long enough ago for it to clear out of my system, so I'm thinking maybe it was responsible for toning down the effects.
Oh cool you did try them. Well it was smart to start at that low dose, might have been too low though. Also It doesnt really help to eat that many after the trip has started because they were both little doses. It would have been better to take it all at once. Also I would have taken the clonazepam because (correct me if Im wrong) benzos can kill a trip. So next time take like 1.5 grams and a moderately empty stomach, and I wouldnt take it with any other meds. Let me know how it goes, good luck!
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hello, man, please stop worrying about your "myriad" of disorders. the more you label, section off, and divide yourself the more confused sad and unstable you become. trust me, iv played this same game so many times.....
you are just you. that is the hardest lesson we all need to learn. just who we are. mushrooms, could, or could not help you. the key component is you and your intentions
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: notapillow]
#7775962 - 12/18/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: follow2]
#7775976 - 12/18/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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follow2 said: Hi guys,
I couldn't remember what my password was so I reregistered - sorry about that.
LOL, thats funny.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: follow2]
#7775993 - 12/18/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've never found benzos to take away from the trip, they more or less just take the edge off.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: fapjack]
#7776013 - 12/18/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the edge is my favorite part
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: fapjack]
#7776060 - 12/18/07 11:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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That "edge" is the parts of the trip that actually challenge you and teach you something, in my experience. Anything that takes that away gets rid of a key part of the trip.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: EllisDSox]
#7776209 - 12/19/07 12:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey, I had pretty bad depression a while ago, so I think I can relate on some level to how you feel. It would help a lot though to know how you feel.
It's good that you started off at a low dose, even if you didn't feel much. It lets you get a general feel for it so if you take more sometime you won't be caught completely off-guard.
I have a lot of paranoia, things people might find absurd, like the fear of the world ending and dying. But when I take shrooms all of that goes away, sounds like it did for you too. It's amazing, I wish I could take shrooms more often then I do now because of that. No other substance has made me feel so comfortable.
I usually take 1/16th and it's enough for me, and I like not having to spend a lot to feel the effects. I was a bit worried that mushrooms might have a bad effect on you, but it seems to have been good, like it was with me.
If you live in a warm area, or wait until spring/summer time, I strongly suggest taking them and walking in the woods. It is an amazing experience that let me look at nature and life in a different way, and see that there is beauty in life.
"I couldn't really picture any way this could go bad, and it never did." heh, I had the same thought. I did them with friends and we were all soooo happy, it was one of the best days of my life.
"This is coming from a person who gets incredible paranoia, depression, self-criticism, and anxiety when smoking marijuana."
thats exactly how I get too. I usually only take one hit now, and it's enough to make me feel good, without too much of those bad effects. I usually drink alcohol which calms me, then take one though.
The main thing that made me view life differently and come out of my depression was LSD, it was over a year , maybe two years ago, I took one tab of LSD and then I didn't feel much after an hour so I took a hit of weed, and woooow it became a full blown trip. amazing colors and still pictures were moving. It was so beautiful. But I don't suggest you take it unless you really research it for a while and google what effects they have when taken with the prescribed medications you are on. Even then it's pretty hard to find for most people.
Just be careful, don't up the dose of shrooms too high at a time, I'd say keep going up a gram or so you don't end up taking too much. But if you feel like a certain dose is perfect for you, stay with that. It will save you money and it will be comfortable.
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Re: considering mushrooms [Re: dsb]
#7776395 - 12/19/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your thoughts control your reality whether you are aware of it or not. If you think eating mushrooms will cure your depression, they will. If you think you can transcend your depression without mushrooms, you will. If you think this world is a shit hole, it is. If you think this world is the most beautiful place in the galaxy, it can be. Mind over matter. 'Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds.'-Bob Marley Namaste, Follow
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